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Abnshrek
06-13-2014, 03:40 PM
I found Mysore & kardarian @ Lowe's. I might have to go back and pick up one since they were under $9.. & had 2' of stem.. :v)

BrianOC714
06-13-2014, 03:53 PM
I have a hard time not bring home new banana plants when I see them in stores.

crazy banana
06-13-2014, 04:11 PM
Since I bought a mislabeled banana plant once at Lowes, I am proud to say that I can happily pass on any banana plants I see there no matter how much they are.
But it is fun to look what they pretend to have, usually Raja Puri and (oh yeah) Ice Cream.... Nope, I am cured with "big box" stores, but also spoiled by great members here on bananas.org or the CRFG who have provided me with some very nice plants that seem to be what they are supposed to be.

Abnshrek
06-13-2014, 04:49 PM
The Mysore was spot-on, not njalipoovan, more like a pk.. I'd like to try a Kardarian since it's a monster (& ABB).. :v)

RWalleyTX
06-13-2014, 04:50 PM
I too have learned to pass on most types of bananas at lowes. Homedepot of the other hand..lol still sucks for bananas

Kat2
06-13-2014, 05:21 PM
Did you go back and tell them there was an error? If not, they haven't a clue what they're selling to their other customers. I don't always get a positive reply when I complain but I do let them know there was an error. How can they do better if nobody speaks up? I don't care if it's 2 years later--I save receipts, pots and tags. (Yes, I've received refunds after the the "guarantee" period.)

Since you know what you were mistakenly sold, then you have a duty to others to let the stores know they've been misled. BTW, the only banana I purchased from Lowes was marked DC and was precisely that.

crazy banana
06-13-2014, 07:23 PM
Did you go back and tell them there was an error? If not, they haven't a clue what they're selling to their other customers. I don't always get a positive reply when I complain but I do let them know there was an error. How can they do better if nobody speaks up? I don't care if it's 2 years later--I save receipts, pots and tags. (Yes, I've received refunds after the the "guarantee" period.)

Since you know what you were mistakenly sold, then you have a duty to others to let the stores know they've been misled. BTW, the only banana I purchased from Lowes was marked DC and was precisely that.

I did, but not out of duty. I did it because I was mad as hell of myself that I had fallen for their crap. Hello, it is a big box store, right? And I did return the plant labeled as a Blue Java Icecream from La Verne. What I did not know when I returned it: the plant already had a pup in the ground which happily grows in my yard today in 3rd generation. All I know even with my unexperienced eyes is, that it is certainly not a Blue Java. It has more red in its P-stem and in its leaves than I have blush in my make-up kit. It has fruited once and it did not look even close to my "real deal" Blue Java from Jon.
But seriously Kat, these big box stores do not care if you return a mislabeled plant or not. It is simply quantity over quality and most people are probably just fine by buying " A Banana Plant" . Have seen many plants labeled just that and they sell just like that.

Kat2
06-13-2014, 08:05 PM
I did, but not out of duty. I did it because I was mad as hell of myself that I had fallen for their crap. Hello, it is a big box store, right? And I did return the plant labeled as a Blue Java Icecream from La Verne. What I did not know when I returned it: the plant already had a pup in the ground which happily grows in my yard today in 3rd generation. All I know even with my unexperienced eyes is, that it is certainly not a Blue Java. It has more red in its P-stem and in its leaves than I have blush in my make-up kit. It has fruited once and it did not look even close to my "real deal" Blue Java from Jon.
But seriously Kat, these big box stores do not care if you return a mislabeled plant or not. It is simply quantity over quality and most people are probably just fine by buying " A Banana Plant" . Have seen many plants labeled just that and they sell just like that.Good for you for taking action! I'm guilty of not complaining to Aldi when I should and they definitely want feedback. Okay, I have a few times. Last summer I bought 3 fancy imported cheeses when visiting in Cocoa; I lived in Jville where there are no Aldis. There was mold on one so I wrote an e-mail. I was only expecting my money back; they say they'll replace and also return your money. Cool. I got much more. I ended up e-mailing with the company rep in England who was in Korea at the time; he sent me 3lbs of great cheese for free plus I got my money back when I was back here along with a replacement. I purchased 8oz of cheese with a blueish blemish which I could have cut out. I hit pay dirt; I adore Aldi!

I disagree that the big boxes don't care but they won't make changes until enough customers complain. They know the average customer figures that a bad buy for less than $10 will keep them quiet. Stupid on their part because people don't go back for another chance.

OT but I'm amazed at how many people list bananas that make "good tasting fruit" on CL. For no less than $15 for a pup and more like $45 for a 6 footer you dig (odds of it living to produce for me? Slim). I like to know what I'm growing in my yard; apparently I'm in the minority.

Duckfood
06-13-2014, 09:26 PM
It seems like I need to make a Banana Quest to Louisiana...

Abnshrek
06-13-2014, 09:38 PM
It seems like I need to make a Banana Quest to Louisiana...

I heard they Have fresh crab & shrimp this time of year, not to mention crawfish.. :v)

Duckfood
06-13-2014, 09:42 PM
I have a friend in Alexandria...She and her boyfriend pulled in a little over 80 lbs. of shrimp yesterday...

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56237&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56237&ppuser=15796)

Kat2
06-13-2014, 10:21 PM
I have a friend in Alexandria...She and her boyfriend pulled in a little over 80 lbs. of shrimp yesterday...

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56237&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56237&ppuser=15796)How can I thank you for a picture that leaves me drooling and hungry? I can't. I really can't. Hope the beer was cold...icy cold.

Duckfood
06-13-2014, 10:23 PM
No thanks required, Kat... The pleasure was all mine...

CountryBoy1981
06-13-2014, 10:28 PM
The Lowes here locally had mysore and red iholene. I picked both of them up today. I am hoping they are what they are labeled as but I do not see any red on the red iholene; it is tall and slender. They do not look like anything I currently have so if they aren't they still should be a new edition.

Abnshrek
06-13-2014, 11:38 PM
The Lowes here locally had mysore and red iholene. I picked both of them up today. I am hoping they are what they are labeled as but I do not see any red on the red iholene; it is tall and slender. They do not look like anything I currently have so if they aren't they still should be a new edition.

Red Iholena should have red underside to leaves that doesn't fade away.. :v)

CountryBoy1981
06-14-2014, 10:52 AM
Red Iholena should have red underside to leaves that doesn't fade away.. :v)

The stem is a light green with yellow hints and its very slender. Its about a foot tall but I do not see any red at all which tends to make me think its another agristarts mixup. Time will tell if the red ever comes but whatever variety it is I don't have one of it in my collection.

CountryBoy1981
06-14-2014, 10:56 AM
I did, but not out of duty. I did it because I was mad as hell of myself that I had fallen for their crap. Hello, it is a big box store, right? And I did return the plant labeled as a Blue Java Icecream from La Verne. What I did not know when I returned it: the plant already had a pup in the ground which happily grows in my yard today in 3rd generation. All I know even with my unexperienced eyes is, that it is certainly not a Blue Java. It has more red in its P-stem and in its leaves than I have blush in my make-up kit. It has fruited once and it did not look even close to my "real deal" Blue Java from Jon.
But seriously Kat, these big box stores do not care if you return a mislabeled plant or not. It is simply quantity over quality and most people are probably just fine by buying " A Banana Plant" . Have seen many plants labeled just that and they sell just like that.

This is more than likely the usual agristarts mixup with the tall namwah being labeled a blue java. I believe that is where Lowes and other big box stores get their banana plants. I could be wrong but the problem at least with banana plants lies with the tissue culture source.

Kat2
06-14-2014, 01:51 PM
This is more than likely the usual agristarts mixup with the tall namwah being labeled a blue java. I believe that is where Lowes and other big box stores get their banana plants. I could be wrong but the problem at least with banana plants lies with the tissue culture source.Agristarts and TC other labs have no reason to be more careful (this is science?) unless they're called on it. It does no good for you or me or even this entire forum to grouse about it; the large purchasers have the clout. Beef and vegetables are recalled--why not mislabeled plants? And, yes, I am very serious. I realize that people don't die as a result of getting a DC instead of a Mysore but misrepresentation is fraud. (If you honestly don't know the variety, just call them "bananas"; I've seen pots of these in WM and the other stores.)

Abnshrek
06-14-2014, 03:08 PM
I picked up a Kardarian & found a FHIA-25... Score.. :v)

crazy banana
06-14-2014, 06:42 PM
Agristarts and TC other labs have no reason to be more careful (this is science?) unless they're called on it. It does no good for you or me or even this entire forum to grouse about it; the large purchasers have the clout. Beef and vegetables are recalled--why not mislabeled plants? And, yes, I am very serious. I realize that people don't die as a result of getting a DC instead of a Mysore but misrepresentation is fraud. (If you honestly don't know the variety, just call them "bananas"; I've seen pots of these in WM and the other stores.)

This is more than likely the usual agristarts mixup with the tall namwah being labeled a blue java. I believe that is where Lowes and other big box stores get their banana plants. I could be wrong but the problem at least with banana plants lies with the tissue culture source.
Sure, but where is the prosecutor? :)
Lets take the Blue Java mix up: I have had a 30 minute phone conversation with Agristarts about their tissue culture material and have offered them the "real deal". They said that they were aware of the mix up, but the problem had been fixed. Well, that was over a year ago, but apparently nothing has been fixed. And they never called me back.
I am still willing to provide them with the real Ice Cream.

merce3
06-14-2014, 07:05 PM
I picked up a Kardarian & found a FHIA-25... Score.. :v)

nice find on the fhia-25. never seen one of those available before.

Kat2
06-14-2014, 07:11 PM
Sure, but where is the prosecutor? :)
Lets take the Blue Java mix up: I have had a 30 minute phone conversation with Agristarts about their tissue culture material and have offered them the "real deal". They said that they were aware of the mix up, but the problem had been fixed. Well, that was over a year ago, but apparently nothing has been fixed. And they never called me back.
I am still willing to provide them with the real Ice Cream.I'll take a pup if I ever get settled; doubt I'll eat the fruit (based on your opinion) but I'll trade pups with someone stupid for something tasty :ha:

The prosecutor is the big customer; as I said, if you don't know what variety you're offering, just label it "banana". Most people don't care--they just want a banana "tree". Heck, they'll blame themselves if it doesn't produce edible fruits so they won't complain. (They tossed the receipt and such the day they purchased her.)

I see figs both labeled and not; I know that game. I'm anxiously awaiting taking cuttings from 3 of my best figs that I sent as twigs here in 2008; I rescued, repotted and placed them in a sunnier area where they finally are leafing out and growing. (She had them in total shade; they have never bloomed.) Varieties? Don't care. Superb black, green and brown with breba crops. I started BT from her clipping so will get one of those. And starts from a Black Mission and 2 other "tagged ones" she purchased from Lowes which are probably actually mysteries. IDing figs is not easy. Panache? Yes. Others? No.

crazy banana
06-14-2014, 07:29 PM
I'll take a pup if I ever get settled; doubt I'll eat the fruit (based on your opinion) but I'll trade pups with someone stupid for something tasty :ha:

The prosecutor is the big customer; as I said, if you don't know what variety you're offering, just label it "banana". Most people don't care--they just want a banana "tree". Heck, they'll blame themselves if it doesn't produce edible fruits so they won't complain. (They tossed the receipt and such the day they purchased her.)

I see figs both labeled and not; I know that game. I'm anxiously awaiting taking cuttings from 3 of my best figs that I sent as twigs here in 2008; I rescued, repotted and placed them in a sunnier area where they finally are leafing out and growing. (She had them in total shade; they have never bloomed.) Varieties? Don't care. Superb black, green and brown with breba crops. I started BT from her clipping so will get one of those. And starts from a Black Mission and 2 other "tagged ones" she purchased from Lowes which are probably actually mysteries. IDing figs is not easy. Panache? Yes. Others? No.
Don't get me wrong on the Blue Java fruit: I have eaten some really nice ones when they were completely filled in and ripe, but also some "so so ones" harvested too early.
So far it is missing the consistency but I am waiting for another great looking bunch to harvest any day now....

Labeling a plant just banana plant could be a solution, but then there are people like my Mom buying a Basjoo thinking they will grow edibles and not ornamentals .... ;)

Kat2
06-14-2014, 10:09 PM
Don't get me wrong on the Blue Java fruit: I have eaten some really nice ones when they were completely filled in and ripe, but also some "so so ones" harvested too early.
So far it is missing the consistency but I am waiting for another great looking bunch to harvest any day now....

Labeling a plant just banana plant could be a solution, but then there are people like my Mom buying a Basjoo thinking they will grow edibles and not ornamentals .... ;)Good to know that blue nanners have possibilities.

I didn't go into the ornamental vs edibles because all the plants I've seen in FL that are "bananas" appear to be DCs. (I'm by no means an expert but those red markings are pretty obvious even to this novice.) But accidentally/unknowingly purchasing an ornamental is a real possibility elsewhere. Maybe just a label that says "these will perhaps produce yummy fruit if you nourish and water the plant carefully" would cover that? Yes, mislabeling ticks me off--I need a life! :ha:

CountryBoy1981
06-14-2014, 11:11 PM
Here are some photos of the two banana plants I purchased:

Alleged Red Iholene:

http://s28.postimg.org/uosiqj41l/IMG_20140614_110937_198.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/uosiqj41l/)

http://s17.postimg.org/qofv9qwcb/IMG_20140614_110946_546.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qofv9qwcb/)

Alleged Mysore:

http://s12.postimg.org/mv9kdw52h/IMG_20140614_111009_624.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/mv9kdw52h/)

http://s11.postimg.org/sfvbqppkf/IMG_20140614_111018_185.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/sfvbqppkf/)

venturabananas
06-15-2014, 10:51 AM
Here are some photos of the two banana plants I purchased:
Alleged Red Iholene:
Alleged Mysore:


It's always hard for me to tell what smallish plants from tissue culture actually are, but these two look suspicious. I'd be very surprised if the "Mysore" was actually that, given the lack of color on the cigar leaf and the open and spreading petiole margins. The "Red Iholene" only looks suspicious for lack of color on the underside of the leaf, but that may develop with time and more exposure to sun.

Abnshrek
06-15-2014, 11:10 AM
I can say CountryBoy I have absolutely no exposure to those types from t/c. What I remember of having them is they take some time to come into there own since they have so little corm I suppose. I saw only two my sores in the store that looked like yours, but if it's like a njalipoovan it's not going to change much.. :v)

mushtaq86
06-15-2014, 02:38 PM
Here are some photos of the two banana plants I purchased:

Alleged Red Iholene:

http://s28.postimg.org/uosiqj41l/IMG_20140614_110937_198.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/uosiqj41l/)

http://s17.postimg.org/qofv9qwcb/IMG_20140614_110946_546.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qofv9qwcb/)

Alleged Mysore:

http://s12.postimg.org/mv9kdw52h/IMG_20140614_111009_624.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/mv9kdw52h/)

http://s11.postimg.org/sfvbqppkf/IMG_20140614_111018_185.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/sfvbqppkf/)

Red iholene is correct, only when the p-stem gets around half a meter do you start to see the bronze red colour underside of the leaf especially in TC plants while young the plant has a light green glossy look on top of the leaves and midrib. Mysore could possibly be wrong.

blownz281
06-15-2014, 03:45 PM
That's not Mysore as mine even pups have real dark green leaves and blood red p-stem.

Abnshrek
06-15-2014, 04:38 PM
That's not Mysore as mine even pups have real dark green leaves and blood red p-stem.

Its not your type of mysore.. Be specific.. This is one of my Mysores.. :^)

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r698/Bucko13f/Photo1654_zpsd21517d6.jpg (http://s1362.photobucket.com/user/Bucko13f/media/Photo1654_zpsd21517d6.jpg.html)

Abnshrek
06-15-2014, 04:53 PM
I even got a 2 for 1 deal.. :^)

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r698/Bucko13f/Photo1645_zps139f92b8.jpg (http://s1362.photobucket.com/user/Bucko13f/media/Photo1645_zps139f92b8.jpg.html)

I_GROWER
06-21-2014, 06:20 PM
I found Mysore & kardarian @ Lowe's. I might have to go back and pick up one since they were under $9.. & had 2' of stem.. :v)

Got the following:
http://i.imgur.com/uw5maA3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WyGTlco.jpg

$21.xx out the door. Mislabel or not. Seems like a deal to me.

venturabananas
06-22-2014, 11:07 AM
The Mysore looks right, can't really tell with the other two. Regardless, that is a good deal.

blownz281
06-22-2014, 06:54 PM
It was sold to me as Mysore that's it. Man you got all three those plants for $21.00!

CountryBoy1981
06-23-2014, 03:50 PM
So this one was unlabeled but was with the same batch of shipment as the plants labeled "mysore" and "red iholene". Is this one either of these or another uknown?

http://s28.postimg.org/moxu8kbzd/IMG_20140623_153249_015.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/moxu8kbzd/)

http://s28.postimg.org/bhp00gall/IMG_20140623_153305_620.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/bhp00gall/)

Abnshrek
06-23-2014, 05:54 PM
So this one was unlabeled but was with the same batch of shipment as the plants labeled "mysore" and "red iholene". Is this one either of these or another uknown?

http://s28.postimg.org/moxu8kbzd/IMG_20140623_153249_015.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/moxu8kbzd/)

http://s28.postimg.org/bhp00gall/IMG_20140623_153305_620.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/bhp00gall/)

To me looking at my older pics looks more like a RI.. :v)

CountryBoy1981
01-25-2015, 10:41 AM
I have some updated pics on the alleged mysore after it grew some corm over the summer. It got knocked to the ground and I have potted it up for the winter.

http://s24.postimg.org/vq9cszjht/ATT00001.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vq9cszjht/)

http://s17.postimg.org/c82j3nq7v/ATT00007.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/c82j3nq7v/)

http://s18.postimg.org/oymdr5sud/ATT00010.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/oymdr5sud/)

http://s24.postimg.org/vdmk0jqlt/ATT00013.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vdmk0jqlt/)

Can anyone identify if it is correct now or what variety it is?

sunfish
01-25-2015, 03:01 PM
I saw Venturabanana shopping for scion wood at CRFG's

CountryBoy1981
01-25-2015, 07:18 PM
You can eliminate mysore.

What is it missing or what reasons do you not believe it to be? When it was larger it had a rustic red pseudostem (which can be seen in the last photo when enlarged) and now has closed petioles (top petiole) that it has some corm to it. The leaves are also thicker and a darker green than some of my other bananas.

venturabananas
01-25-2015, 09:20 PM
What is it missing or what reasons do you not believe it to be? When it was larger it had a rustic red pseudostem (which can be seen in the last photo when enlarged) and now has closed petioles (top petiole) that it has some corm to it. The leaves are also thicker and a darker green than some of my other bananas.

Should have purple-red midribs. Cigar leaves should also be purplish on the undersides

CountryBoy1981
01-25-2015, 10:08 PM
Should have purple-red midribs. Cigar leaves should also be purplish on the undersides

Do you have a suggestion as to it could be?

venturabananas
01-26-2015, 01:10 AM
Do you have a suggestion as to it could be?

It's really hard to say when they are that small, but it looks pretty Cavendish-y to me. I figure that for most varieties, you won't know until they have fruited, and even then you might not know.

blownz281
01-27-2015, 05:46 PM
My vote is Orinoco.

keybrdkid09
02-28-2015, 11:39 PM
Greetings. sorry if I put this in the wrong forum/thread. I posted it here because I was searching "Lowe's" at the time. Sorry also if I provided too much info for an easy i.d., since I have a suspicion about what this Lowe's plant is now. But it would be nice to hear what others think.

This mystery plant was labeled as 'platano rojos' when I bought it some time ago.

Plant Characteristics I have observed over time (I have had it for two to three years perhaps approximately): it fruited once shortly after I purchased it, and has not put out a flower since-*until this week, when I noticed one was finally dropping a flower. The bananas it originally put out were greenish red and small. The stem is papery, unlike some of the other plants I have which are smoother. The stem on the plant that just put out a flower is about 46 inches tall (at an angle) from ground to top of stem (not including leaf height.) A neighboring plant of same variety (I think) recently grew a bit bigger, closer to 61-64 inches from ground to top of stem. At more-or-less ground level, the plants are about 6 inches in diameter.

Here are some photos. Any ideas? Thanks!

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd412/keybrdkid09/mysterybanana1_zps4yjgms5f.jpg (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/keybrdkid09/media/mysterybanana1_zps4yjgms5f.jpg.html)

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd412/keybrdkid09/mysterybanana2_zpso8httx0s.jpg (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/keybrdkid09/media/mysterybanana2_zpso8httx0s.jpg.html)

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd412/keybrdkid09/mysterybanana4_zpsl9vglv3q.jpg (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/keybrdkid09/media/mysterybanana4_zpsl9vglv3q.jpg.html)

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd412/keybrdkid09/mysterybanana3_zpsikyutica.jpg (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/keybrdkid09/media/mysterybanana3_zpsikyutica.jpg.html)

venturabananas
03-01-2015, 12:26 AM
Looks like Zebrina.

Hammocked Banana
03-01-2015, 01:47 PM
Definitely a zebrina. Other names for this banana include musa rojo or platano rojos as well as a blood banana.