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mudcat25
06-24-2007, 09:24 PM
Yes I'm still new at this (that being three yrs in a not so perfect climate) but, is this the flag as I've seen posted several times before or am I just hoping for something others may achieve easily in other areas. If it is the flag how long till flowering, fruit and becoming edible. ( Hey wait not even sure what type of banana I have here. Any help with that also?)
Again THANKS AS USUAL!http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=3805&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3805)
bigdog
06-24-2007, 10:32 PM
Yep! Congrats! Depending on the cultivar, it could take 3 to 6 months or longer for the fruit to ripen. If it is still green come first frost, cut the whole bunch down and hang it up inside the house. They will usually ripen the rest of the way like that.
MediaHound
06-24-2007, 10:40 PM
:2784:
Congrats!!!
NANAMAN
06-25-2007, 12:29 AM
Congrats on the first flag!!!
D'Andra
06-25-2007, 11:18 AM
Oh! so that' what it should look like.
Congtrats!
tlturbo
06-25-2007, 12:06 PM
Yep, if you see a real short leaf starting to open, that's a pretty good indication. Flower bud will follow very quickly after this little short paddle looking leaf opens.
Terry
mudcat25
06-25-2007, 04:01 PM
Thanks to all for the info. I've seen a lot of pics of flag leaves on this site. Just wanted to make sure. I've had many people tell me that this is impossible around here. Since I've joined this site I've known differently! Again thanks to all. Terry your post saved me from having to ask my next question.
MediaHound
06-25-2007, 09:30 PM
Yep sometimes before the tiny flag emerges, you'll get a leaf thats about half the size of prior leaves. It's actually pretty easy to miss.
When you just notice a flag leaf on a plant, as you celebrate, look at the leaf before it. There's a good chance that it was smaller than the one still before that one, that you may have not noticed as it happened. It's easy to miss.
:gangstabanana:
Anyway, congrats once again! Keep us posted!
GATrops
06-25-2007, 10:32 PM
Congrats!!!
mudcat25
06-26-2007, 04:52 PM
Jarred, after reading your post I decided (OK I would have anyway) to take a look at my nana and see if the last leaf was shorter than the previous. I seen something coming out and had to get a ladder to see well enough. I believe another leaf is on it's way? Never seen a flower emerge so not sure what to expect with only an inch of green coming out.
Is it possible that I didn't miss the first sign and the flag is now on its way? Maybe winter dormancy makes the first sign a little more pronounced?
No horticulture classes in my past just someone who started with a few plants and decided to go crazy and plant bananas!
Thanks, Bob
Greenie
06-26-2007, 05:07 PM
Congrats!, if it is:08:...... keep us updated!
mudcat25
06-26-2007, 05:47 PM
Jarred, I just finished looking through some recently added photos and noticed that there is some green at the beginning of emerging flowers. If only I would do a little research before asking dumb questions! Just excited and always pessimistic.
Anyway the tip is through and I will post more pics when it flowers. I really want to know what type of banana this is, it is the only unknown banana I have!
MediaHound
06-26-2007, 09:55 PM
This is a banana plant with a bloom emerging:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=3743&size=1
and another plant, another bloom,
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=3138&size=1
:parachutenanner:
Congratulations mudcat!!!!! That is fantastic!!!!!!!
I also would love to know what that is. Since you and I live in the same state it would be wonderful if I could get one to flower also. And would you mind telling me how you over wintered it and how long you have had it. Everything I have is still small, but I have hope.
Jane
mudcat25
07-01-2007, 09:45 AM
Jane I overwintered it using the same method as Bigdog explains in a post somewhere on this site. The banana was given to me as a pup 3yrs ago at the end of the year so I had it that first winter and this is my second year planting it outside.
The flower on it is still on its way out maybe halfway right now.
Seems like FOREVER!!!!!
mudcat25
07-01-2007, 10:10 AM
Banana fiend? How about getting on the top of a twelve foot ladder to take a picture?
Any way here it is http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=3912&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3912)Banana fiend???????
as of 6-28.
MediaHound
07-01-2007, 10:26 AM
:woohoonaner:
mudcat25
07-06-2007, 05:53 PM
Any guesses on what type or still too early?http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4058&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4058)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4059&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4059)
AnnaJW
07-07-2007, 03:16 AM
Wow! Major Congrats on that awesome bloom!!!
I would love to know what it is.
:nanadrink: :nanadrink: :nanadrink:
asacomm
07-07-2007, 04:30 AM
Hello mudcat25,
The species of banana that can overwinter outside in zone 6 is very limited.
Usually it is basjoo, sikkimensis and/or Helen's hybrid.
Taking a look at the bloom picture of your plant, the color of the bud is dark
red which means it is not basjoo, but sikkimensis or Helen's hybrid as the
color of the bud of basjoo is dark yellow.
Distinction between sikkimensis and Helen's hybrid is very much difficult as
the two resemble in many aspects.
Helen's hybrid is a hybrid beween Sikkimensis and Chini-Champa.
Gabe15
07-07-2007, 04:35 AM
This does not appear to be a wild species, it looks like an edible variety. It also looks very stunted so it might not be a large bunch. I would guess Orinoco based on the pictures shown, but once it starts to set the fruit it will be a bit easier to say exactly.
mudcat25
07-07-2007, 07:18 AM
This banana did not overwinter outside, it was stored bareroot in my basement. I assumed it would not be a great harvest but here in zone six it is still exciting to see. This is the first banana I've had flower. I expected to get one of my basjoo's or lasiocarpa's to bloom here. I did not expect to get this banana to bloom. It is really something to watch the change in the flower within hours. It is now hanging down, so I hope it begins to open soon.
asacomm
07-07-2007, 05:27 PM
Hi mudcat25,
Now I do understand it was stored bareroot in your basement during the
winter time and then transplanted in the ground.
If it were an edible banana, it could not survive the winter in zone 6 even if
was stored in that manner. Would Orinoco, Cal.Gold or Brazilian do it??
It could be an edible variety, but to me it looks like Sikkimensis considering
from the shape of the leaves and the color of the reverse side of the petioles.
Any way, it will soon be identified when it actually fruited.
mudcat25
07-09-2007, 05:28 PM
Now this is really getting exciting. I had my whole family out looking up into the flower with a flashlight because it has not opened up enough to see. I thought I had a problem before I actually had a banana WITH fruit. I'm sure now it could only get worse. For that I would like to apologize to my wife and children who now come in a close second with my obsession.
Sorry for the horrible pic but I have to show it. My camera was inside the flower.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4105&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4105&ppuser=478)
AnnaJW
07-09-2007, 05:56 PM
That is so cool, and very exciting! Maybe your wife and kids will become interested in your obsession after seeing a bloom. :)
mudcat25
07-09-2007, 06:29 PM
Thanks Anna. My 10yr old son does actually get excited at watching them grow. And wife and girls were excited today to see the bananas. My wife enjoys all the plants she just doesn't have the time to care for them like I do.
MediaHound
07-09-2007, 07:03 PM
http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP941-25.jpg
Orinoco pic courtesy webebananas for comparison.
Put your camera on macro setting (the little lillypad looking icon) and see if that helps focus when taking such close photos. Maybe some more pics would help get a good comparison. So far, it still seems Orinoco-ish...
mudcat25
07-09-2007, 07:14 PM
Don't know if mine has a macro setting, but will give it a look. If so is that possibly enough to tell what it is? I thought maybe still too early? I am anxious to know though I've seen others with such big hands I'm kind of embarrassed to show my little overwintered nana. LOL
MediaHound
07-11-2007, 11:04 AM
Let's take the party here to the new thread for that ID:
http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?t=2135
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