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kikop
01-24-2014, 09:52 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55618&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55618&ppuser=16820)
Please tell me they are female...:ha:
i grew these from maradol seeds from the supermarket
also here are some other pics from around my garden to enjoy (just moved in here in september 2013, still a work in progress)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55619&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55619&ppuser=16820)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55617&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55617&ppuser=16820)
Richard
01-24-2014, 10:11 AM
Commercially grown Carica papaya are typically hermaphrodite.
trebor
01-24-2014, 12:32 PM
Seeds from the Papaya fruits are always fun to grow :)
In case you want to know what your growing and you can afford a DOLLAR get ya sum seeds from the collage in Hawaii.. And you can get plenty of great info from the very page you look at when buying the seed. like size.. Just sharing a great resource..
Agricultural Diagnostic Service Center - Seed Program (http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/seed/seeds.asp)
Sexing Your Papaya Plants - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevsZ2Llk-8)
kikop
01-24-2014, 07:11 PM
thanks to both of you for the input.
From the video it seems safe to say its a female or hemaphrodyte? due to the fact the bloom is close to the trunk?
Abnshrek
01-24-2014, 08:06 PM
thanks to both of you for the input.
From the video it seems safe to say its a female or hemaphrodyte? due to the fact the bloom is close to the trunk?
The Female Flowers have 4 ovaries, that look like 4 hearts that mesh @ the tips.. The male flowers are quite slim and don't have no hearts.. :^)
Seeds from the Papaya fruits are always fun to grow :)
In case you want to know what your growing and you can afford a DOLLAR get ya sum seeds from the collage in Hawaii.. And you can get plenty of great info from the very page you look at when buying the seed. like size.. Just sharing a great resource..
Agricultural Diagnostic Service Center - Seed Program (http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/seed/seeds.asp)Holy cow that's a bargain! Who can use 450 papaya seeds in a "home garden"? (Yes, of course you want a pack of each or I do.) The hot pepper packs aren't as generous but interesting. This proverbial cheapskate thanks you for that link!
PR-Giants
01-24-2014, 08:42 PM
Holy cow that's a bargain! Who can use 450 papaya seeds in a "home garden"? (Yes, of course you want a pack of each or I do.) The hot pepper packs aren't as generous but interesting. This proverbial cheapskate thanks you for that link!
Don't plant them in a pot.
Don't plant them in a pot.Why? From what I've read you can start them then transplant when young but they send down long roots (my avocados sure did) and, like squash, they don't appreciate having their roots disturbed. If that's the case, guess I'll grab some newspaper, my stapler and a caulk tube to make tall pots. 450 should keep me busy...
PR-Giants
01-24-2014, 09:07 PM
Why? From what I've read you can start them then transplant when young but they send down long roots (my avocados sure did) and, like squash, they don't appreciate having their roots disturbed. If that's the case, guess I'll grab some newspaper, my stapler and a caulk tube to make tall pots. 450 should keep me busy...
I was told that they don't like to be transplanted, but I didn't believe it so when I transplanted 2' plants in one row and I planted seeds in the next row. First to fruit were the seeds, the plants and fruit were bigger than the transplanted ones.
Do it both ways and see what happens.
verndoc50
01-24-2014, 10:18 PM
It's probably too early to tell. Sometimes the first flowers seem indeterminate, they tend to drop off anyway. If you see many small flowers clustered together it is most likely male. I try to keep several of the most vigorous plants going and reduce to only females when it is clear who is who. There's no need for a male plant unless you are interested in having fertile seeds.
Check the University of Florida's IFAS web site for lots of information and drawings of male/female flowers.
Videos: Papaya Overview - FruitScapes - Tropical Fruit Management Program - UF/IFAS (http://trec.ifas.ufl.edu/fruitscapes/Fruitscapes-videos/papaya/playlist1/overview.shtml)
trebor
01-24-2014, 11:03 PM
PR-Giants is correct! Papaya don't like to be moved. All comerical growers plant seed in groups of 4 . People think its for selecting females but its a huge advantage to not transplant.
As Im typing this Im eating a x77 Papaya grown in my front yard :)
KAT2 the green beans from there grow execlent. As do the other seed they offer..I have problems with root knot nematoads. Those beans grow well here.. my neighbout just got a pound of soy bean seed from them. I intend to mooch a few seeds from her to grow so I can be a soy beaner too.. I'll use mine for sprouts ...
So trebor, what are the best legumes from that site? I was thinking some soybeans and maybe some peas (like the mildew resistant concept). I've grown these Aiguille Verte (Fine green bean) (http://www.artisticgardens.com/aiguillevertefinegreenbean.aspx) for over 25 years (only ordered again after losing my saved stash during odd times in my life) and even got these to produce a few in the dirt that killed everything else here in FL. (I love the little packs they offer but go big on those beans--thin, long and no strings.)
I really need to find my own dirt--soon so I can get my fingernails suitably dirty.
trebor
01-25-2014, 12:08 AM
Oh boy :) im a string bean eating machine.. I never bother cooking them and when I grow them its a breakfast food to me.. I have grown Poamoho because they are stringless and the sugar snap. Both did well. Keep an eye on the page they add some other stuff thats intetesting durring the season.
I've grown the papaya from them also. But truth be known all Papaya do good so long as ya pick them and allow the tree to recope from producing so many fruits.. I keep about 12 papaya in different growth stages just to have them..
I want to try the tomatoes but I have great growing ones here already. Determinate only. I stopped with the indeterminate .. just because I'm happy growing Abe Lincoln, money makers, cherry, Tiffen*Mennonite,*
Also I go to tomato forum read what's growing then order new seed yearly just for different stuff.. as you can see im all over the pkace on what I grow.. I keep changing things because I can :c)
So trebor, what are the best legumes from that site? I was thinking some soybeans and maybe some peas (like the mildew resistant concept). I've grown these Aiguille Verte (Fine green bean) (http://www.artisticgardens.com/aiguillevertefinegreenbean.aspx) for over 25 years (only ordered again after losing my saved stash during odd times in my life) and even got these to produce a few in the dirt that killed everything else here in FL. (I love the little packs they offer but go big on those beans--thin, long and no strings.)
I really need to find my own dirt--soon so I can get my fingernails suitably dirty.
raygrogan
01-25-2014, 02:05 PM
I think yours is a hermaphrodite papaya flower, which are usually the preferred type since they produce both pollen and ovary, = fruit. Most female flowers do not produce fruit, depending on if there is a source of pollen nearby. A female flower is shaped more like an arrowhead - with the large part near the trunk. (This is based on Hawaiian papayas - that Maradol one could be different. They are pretty decent papayas compared to others that grow in the same area / climate.)
Iunepeace
06-05-2014, 08:57 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55618&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55618&ppuser=16820)
Please tell me they are female...:ha:
i grew these from maradol seeds from the supermarket
also here are some other pics from around my garden to enjoy (just moved in here in september 2013, still a work in progress)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55619&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55619&ppuser=16820)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55617&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55617&ppuser=16820)
Lovely garden and bananas, do you know what kind they are?
Also how long did your papayas take to grow from seed? We don't have any but my mother loves them so I'm thinking of starting some from seed. Lastly is the soil in your garden beds natural or something you replaced/amended the normal soil with? I really like your setup :D
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