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siege2050
10-21-2013, 10:24 PM
About two days ago, I noticed what I thought was a root growing from the base of my Basjoo straight out onto the soil so I covered it with a little bit of potting mix. Today I was watering, and I noticed that it has now curved upward, and has maybe a hint of green. Is this a pup, should I cover it up a little since it and the mother plants connection was showing on top of the soil? My Basjoo was already trying to form one pup that looked like a pup on the surface, but this one looked like a root at first.:birthdaynana:


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55000&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55000)

Richard
10-21-2013, 10:51 PM
About two days ago, I noticed what I thought was a root growing from the base of my Basjoo straight out onto the soil so I covered it with a little bit of potting mix. Today I was watering, and I noticed that it has now curved upward, and has maybe a hint of green. Is this a pup, should I cover it up a little since it and the mother plants connection was showing on top of the soil? My Basjoo was already trying to form one pup that looked like a pup on the surface, but this one looked like a root at first.

Wait until it is 6 inches or knee high, and you'll know for sure.

Lemmysports
10-22-2013, 04:04 AM
Unfortunately I think you've just got a root there. The pups will start a bit deeper than that, be larger, and not resemble a root at all. Sorry :/

siege2050
10-22-2013, 04:48 AM
Unfortunately I think you've just got a root there. The pups will start a bit deeper than that, be larger, and not resemble a root at all. Sorry :/

Oh well lol, back to the drawing board.:rollerbananadone:

Jimbo7
10-22-2013, 09:17 AM
Thats a root alright!

Olafhenny
10-22-2013, 08:50 PM
If it yaps like a puppy, it is definitely a pup.:ha: But even if it does nor yap, it is still a pup,
even though it emerges very close to the PS. Roots have more sense than growing skyward.
It looks like the corm could use a bit more cover and that that is the reason for the confusion

The reason it is not green yet is because it had been covered.

Anyway, good luck with it, Siege,

Olaf

siege2050
10-22-2013, 09:24 PM
It is a bit odd that its growing up instead of down, but I dunno, this was my first Banana lol

Olafhenny
10-22-2013, 09:47 PM
No, the pup is your second one. :ha:

siege2050
10-29-2013, 02:14 AM
Okay I am pretty sure now its a pup, its growing way too vertical and is green. There is another one starting beside it on the left. I looked at the roots below and they look pretty much like roots. Does having the corm exposed a little induce pupping? Its not a very tall basjoo maybe like 2 1/2 feet.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55064&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55064)

Abnshrek
10-29-2013, 05:17 AM
Looks like you need more mulch to cover up them roots.. :^)

Olafhenny
10-29-2013, 10:24 AM
I do not know, what induces sprouting more pups sometimes, while other times there are few.
I have developed and discarded several views on that. When I brought home my ornata corm
it had about 7 or 8 eyes for pups, but only two emerged. Would there have been that many
pups, had the PS been left on? In order to get some answer you would have to dig up quite a
number of plants, count the eyes, replant them and see what happens, And then it would not
be clear either, if the interruption had any impact. :(

After all sometimes just moving a pot to a new place can cause an interruption of growth,
other times not. Go figure!

But I do agree with Migael, that, when you repot it or plant it outside, you should provide
more cover.

Abnshrek
10-29-2013, 11:08 AM
But I do agree with Migael, that, when you repot it or plant it outside, you should provide more cover.

I have noticed as a corm expands it will grow more shallow roots so adding more cover is just a necessity. Pups on the other hand are best just left to come naturally.. If its what you truly desire Azomite, and Rooting Hormone from GreenLight both work effectively to bring on the pups. :^)

Olafhenny
10-29-2013, 02:16 PM
Judging from the photo, there does not appear to be any room in this pot to add more of
anything to the top. Any additional cover may have to wait for re-potting.

Kat2
10-30-2013, 09:53 PM
Judging from the photo, there does not appear to be any room in this pot to add more of
anything to the top. Any additional cover may have to wait for re-potting.
.But, but, but...there's always room for Jello!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Some barky mulch on top could be added if desired. Even if it "hangs over", if carefully watered it can be controlled and would aid in darkening roots/pups.

Richard
10-31-2013, 12:10 AM
... Does having the corm exposed a little induce pupping? ...

In my experience, cramped growing conditions are the best inducers of pups. For example, to propagate several pups from another: I'd plant it in a 15 gallon pot outside in the summer (or indoors under summer-like conditions) and feed it on a regular basis. When the roots of the corm hit the pot walls, rhizomes will soon follow and pups shortly after that.

Olafhenny
10-31-2013, 12:56 AM
In my experience, cramped growing conditions are the best inducers of pups.

My own observations seem to bear that out too.

siege2050
12-15-2013, 05:05 PM
It was a pup.


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55407&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55407)

Lemmysports
12-15-2013, 07:13 PM
Ha! I stand corrected! Congrats!

siege2050
12-15-2013, 08:14 PM
Ha! I stand corrected! Congrats!

Its a strange pup lol

Abnshrek
12-15-2013, 08:48 PM
Its a strange pup lol

Looks like the beginnings of a water pup.. :^)

Kat2
12-15-2013, 10:53 PM
Looks like the beginnings of a water pup.. :^)All of my 5 pups (sword) are firmly attached to Mama; this appears to be some distance away. Is spacing a barometer of pup type?

Abnshrek
12-15-2013, 11:14 PM
All of my 5 pups (sword) are firmly attached to Mama; this appears to be some distance away. Is spacing a barometer of pup type?

No, its just all leaf.. is the reason I said that.. :^)

Kat2
12-15-2013, 11:20 PM
No, its just all leaf.. is the reason I said that.. :^)If you think about it, a pup not attached solidly to the corm would probably be weaker. Who knows? Fingers crossed it's a real pup...time will tell...

siege2050
12-15-2013, 11:29 PM
It seemed to start pupping when the base of the plant was exposed. Not saying anyone should try this, but its not a very big plant and has 3 pups now that I can see. I tried this with my 2 foot Musa velutina, and it is now producing a pup. Its starting the same way, looks like a root.

siege2050
12-15-2013, 11:46 PM
Here is the Musa Velutina that only has about a foot of pstem. I decided to use it for an experiment to see if uncovering the corm top would induce pups. This one was not there two weeks ago, and started forming after I uncovered it. You can tell its the same as the Basjoo pup, because the base is a bit triangular, and it has a bit of color in it, in this case a bit of purple but it doesn't show up good in the pic. I wouldn't try it on a plant growing out in the hot sun.


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55415&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55415)

siege2050
12-17-2013, 04:12 AM
Awesome, I was watering my basjoo and it has another pup coming up. Thats 3, now I wont have to order anymore from ebay this spring.

Tony O
12-31-2013, 11:04 AM
Awesome, I was watering my basjoo and it has another pup coming up. Thats 3, now I wont have to order anymore from ebay this spring.

Howdy neighbor. :waving:

If your pups don't make it over winter, come on up to Jay this spring and dig one of mine. I have plenty.

siege2050
01-02-2014, 07:33 AM
Howdy neighbor. :waving:

If your pups don't make it over winter, come on up to Jay this spring and dig one of mine. I have plenty.

Good to see another Banana grower lives close by. :03:

absolutelytrue
02-07-2014, 12:09 PM
I have a tiny weird looking pup on a foot tall Velutina too. I thought it was too small to pup... actually I just ordered it and it came like that.

siege2050
02-07-2014, 12:50 PM
I have a tiny weird looking pup on a foot tall Velutina too. I thought it was too small to pup... actually I just ordered it and it came like that.

I got a Bengal tiger sikki in the mail and it has 2 pups, and its only like 8 inches tall! lol. Must have something to do with the tissue culture.