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siege2050
10-16-2013, 08:58 PM
Not sure if this is the right place to post this but it has to do with low temps. I have what I believe might be an Orinoco, and its supposed to be 42 degrees tonight for the low, but no mention of frost. Can I leave it out tonight, or should I wheel it into the unheated garage? Its got about 6 feet of pstem if that makes any difference.:coldbanana:
cincinnana
10-16-2013, 09:21 PM
Not sure if this is the right place to post this but it has to do with low temps. I have what I believe might be an Orinoco, and its supposed to be 42 degrees tonight for the low, but no mention of frost. Can I leave it out tonight, or should I wheel it into the unheated garage? Its got about 6 feet of pstem if that makes any difference.:coldbanana:
36 degrees is my limit over a period of time .
If it between 36 and up I am good....absolutely no frost.
However it is your choice .
siege2050
10-16-2013, 09:56 PM
I am building a greenhouse and will put it in there soon, but I am waiting for the plastic covering to come in. Maybe I can keep it out a bit longer.
Richard
10-16-2013, 10:07 PM
Not sure if this is the right place to post this but it has to do with low temps. I have what I believe might be an Orinoco, and its supposed to be 42 degrees tonight for the low ...
No problem.
Abnshrek
10-16-2013, 10:11 PM
6' of stem means its established and it can take some cold.. I think your good till a frost. :^)
Jose263
10-17-2013, 04:52 PM
If it is potted and not too hard moving inside - I would roll it in and back out when chance of frost is over
Olafhenny
10-17-2013, 06:41 PM
I do not know, how reliable the weather forecasts in you area are, but 42^F is a long way
from freezing
Some time ago I learned to my surprise, that some tropicals have indeed sap, which gels at
low, but above freezing temperatures, thus choking up the interior infrastructure of the
plant. However, I do not believe, that any of the bananas belong to that category.
The vast majority of plants, including any bananas, I have ever met, need the formation
of ice crystals to crush the cells, before they die.
scottu
10-17-2013, 07:08 PM
If it is easily moved I would roll it in at night and out in the morn. cause that low of a temp will shock its growth and that takes days/nights of higher temps to overcome.
siege2050
10-17-2013, 08:34 PM
I got it not too long ago so its still in a pot, I put it in the garage tonight because it's supposed to get down to 38 degrees F. It's supposed to warm back up so not quite time to put it asleep yet.
chipboy44
10-17-2013, 09:25 PM
I am in Daytona Beach and battle with this problem every winter because mine are all in the ground. I can GAURANTEE you that your Orinoco are safe as long as the temperature does not hit 32°F. They will be perfectly fine as far down as 33°F. I can even attest to you that mine have taken a frost for a few hours without any harm. But don't push it. If in pots take in it the temps get down to 33-34°F
Salute'
rick
Olafhenny
10-17-2013, 09:31 PM
I got it not too long ago so its still in a pot, I put it in the garage tonight because it's supposed to get down to 38 degrees F. It's supposed to warm back up so not quite time to put it asleep yet.
No need for that
siege2050
10-17-2013, 09:41 PM
Our weather here in Oklahoma is insane lol, I went camping once and it was about 75 degrees, I woke up about 3 am and it was 28 degrees and 3 inches of sleet on the ground. You never can tell what it will do here the next day.:woohoonaner:
Abnshrek
10-17-2013, 09:44 PM
I got it not too long ago so its still in a pot, I put it in the garage tonight because it's supposed to get down to 38 degrees F. It's supposed to warm back up so not quite time to put it asleep yet.
38F is mighty close to the point where frost may come to town.. so I'd play it on the safe side. :^)
Darkman
10-18-2013, 07:28 AM
I realize my comments are a little late BUT...
Throw a frost cloth over it. Not a blanket or a sheet go buy frost cloth. It's designed to take care of frost. It's only six feet tall and that is the perfect height for you to get a nice bunch of fruit next June if you care for it this Winter.
Chipboy's comments were dead on right. You are good to 33 degrees, but later in the year do not take a chance it won't be 31 instead of 33, especially with just one plant to move. Mine have actually dipped below freezing with no ill effects but FROST at any tempearture will ruin the leaves period.
Make sure you post the pictures of the fruit next June and I would get it in the ground in a well prepared hole next Spring!
Abnshrek
10-18-2013, 09:09 AM
In addition to what Charles said.. I ordered some frost covers for my citrus that would work for short banana's.. :^)
caliboy1994
10-18-2013, 08:02 PM
This is what a Misi Luki Namwah that has experienced multiple temperature dips in the mid 40s looks like.
http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Musa/20131016_145418_zps8615c78e.jpg
Not a scratch, and still growing even. And to think that Orinoco is even hardier. :08:
lmswayne
10-19-2013, 06:16 PM
You can bye frost cloth at any home depo lows or garden center.
Not so clueless on this.
sunfish
10-19-2013, 07:46 PM
Is frost cloth for frost
Olafhenny
10-19-2013, 09:41 PM
I posted the following previously here:
http://www.bananas.org/f15/prepping-basjoo-winter-19024.html#post231655
IMOEO there is a trade-off. If you pot them and have reasonable growing conditions,
it is of course win/win. But once the plants grow larger and you can no longer provide
adequately for indoor growth, you have the choice between bare root wintering,
which will hopefully preserve most of the PS, but sacrifices most of the roots, or
you can winter them outdoors and sacrifice most of the PS, but have the roots in
place and settled in, ready to “hit the ground running”. From my wording you can
probably tell which method I prefer, and it is also less work.
With my new shelter, which will allow me to take advantage of warm days in March and
April (most of that month), maybe even February, I now hope to add the equivalent
of more than one month to the growing season, which would otherwise not start here
until early to mid May. That widens the gap in favour of outdoor wintering.
Good luck,
Olaf
Olafhenny
10-19-2013, 09:50 PM
Ooops, sorry, I pasted the last post inadvertently into this thread. It was supposed
to go into a different one :(
lmswayne
10-20-2013, 06:48 PM
I use it to Keep my bananas covered to winter over. I have made a tower
with wire fencing and frost cloth to Keep the cold and wet ,frost, snow whatever the weather dose here. If it gets below 32 F I will throw in some hand wormers or a thurmacare heat pack until things worm up again. I think the darkness helps them go dormant as well.
Clueless
Darkman
10-20-2013, 07:39 PM
Imswayne,
Would you be so kind to post your where abouts in your profile so we know where your bananas live!
mksmth
10-21-2013, 09:44 AM
Our weather here in Oklahoma is insane lol, I went camping once and it was about 75 degrees, I woke up about 3 am and it was 28 degrees and 3 inches of sleet on the ground. You never can tell what it will do here the next day.:woohoonaner:
You got that right Siege! I cant tell you how many times I have gone to work in short sleeves and had to shovel snow by 5pm. Of course the opposite has happened too. Snow on the ground in the AM and 70's in the afternoon. We get all the crazy weather here. I let my inground D.Cavendish see the 38 we had the other night and it had no damage at. It was around the pool so I dont know for sure if I get much of a micro climate from that or not yet. Just moved in so I havent gone through a winter at this house yet. I went ahead and dug it up and stored in the garage with the plumeria for now.
mike
lmswayne
10-21-2013, 01:46 PM
My bananas are in Seattle. My weather is a little more dependable than yours. You can always count on it being wet.
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