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quendor91
10-02-2013, 04:44 AM
I have recently moved my DC downstairs from outside. It is now infested with spidermites. What are some remedies?

Abnshrek
10-02-2013, 06:59 AM
Water, soap, & neem oil.. I believe a member likes using suave Coconut shampoo so he kills them while providing a fresh fruity smell.. :^)

Richard
10-02-2013, 07:03 AM
I would use this product:

Green Light® Fruit Tree Spray (http://www.scotts.com/smg/goprod/green-light-fruit-tree-spray/prod10780016/)

quendor91
10-05-2013, 07:20 PM
I used some soap and it doesn't seem to be working. I used 1/4 of a spray bottle of dish soap and the other 3 parts water. I hear that isopropyl alcohol mixed with water could work. I don't want to use pesticides if I don't have to.

sunfish
10-05-2013, 08:39 PM
You will probably need to spray once a week forever

quendor91
10-06-2013, 12:57 PM
You will probably need to spray once a week forever

Well I think I'm going to lessen the concentration of the soap I used. I observed some pretty bad foliar burn on all the leaves and pseudo stem. I checked the ingredients on the bottle and it said it contained surfactants. Is that bad for plants? I also sprayed some peppers and some of leaves fell off as well.

Hammocked Banana
10-14-2013, 11:40 PM
Would like to give this a try, soap never seems to be enough. Does anyone know a good place to order this from in Canada? Having a hard time finding somewhere, only Amazon but I have to pay more for shipping than the product.

I would use this product:

Green Light® Fruit Tree Spray (http://www.scotts.com/smg/goprod/green-light-fruit-tree-spray/prod10780016/)

Richard
10-15-2013, 12:21 AM
Would like to give this a try, soap never seems to be enough. Does anyone know a good place to order this from in Canada? Having a hard time finding somewhere, only Amazon but I have to pay more for shipping than the product.

Instead of comparing the price of shipping to the price of the product, how about comparing the price of product + shipping to the price of the product in a local store?

ez
10-15-2013, 12:52 AM
Well I think I'm going to lessen the concentration of the soap I used. I observed some pretty bad foliar burn on all the leaves and pseudo stem. I checked the ingredients on the bottle and it said it contained surfactants. Is that bad for plants? I also sprayed some peppers and some of leaves fell off as well.

Using Surfactants, Wetting Agents, and Adjuvants in the Greenhouse (http://www.caes.uga.edu/publications/pubDetail.cfm?pk_id=7678)

Hammocked Banana
10-15-2013, 08:41 AM
Instead of comparing the price of shipping to the price of the product, how about comparing the price of product + shipping to the price of the product in a local store?

Yes I've seen you repping this product before so I've been keeping my open for it, but haven't found it locally (no surprise there). I have another spray which is ready-to-use with 0.02% pyrethrins and 0.2% piperonyl butoxide. Would u recommend something with a higher concentration of pyrenthrins or should this work ok? Have u experienced any plants that have had an issue with these compounds? I initially bought it to spray my avocado but it seems like it ended up poisoning it so I haven't used it on anything I care about since.

quendor91
10-15-2013, 05:59 PM
Using Surfactants, Wetting Agents, and Adjuvants in the Greenhouse (http://www.caes.uga.edu/publications/pubDetail.cfm?pk_id=7678)

Thank you very much for that link. It was very informative.

cannasrus
10-16-2013, 07:28 AM
How about seven? I dont know ? but I used it in the spring for a couple weeks
and it killed off all pests. Naners took off and did great.

dana mastro
10-21-2013, 05:26 PM
if you really need to get rid of them use neem oil! its not just a remedy it also defense your banana threw other insect and larva type insects in your soil that can damage your root system and it all keeps them warmer because its a natural oil so they soak up rays like their in a tanning bed it does have a smelly odor but get use to it your not just a gardener your a doctor! :ukkibannana:

Richard
10-21-2013, 10:27 PM
if you really need to get rid of them use neem oil! its not just a remedy it also defense your banana threw other insect and larva type insects in your soil that can damage your root system and it all keeps them warmer because its a natural oil so they soak up rays like their in a tanning bed it does have a smelly odor but get use to it your not just a gardener your a doctor! :ukkibannana:

Neem oil is a surfactant. It is not a substitute for pesticide.

Hammocked Banana
10-22-2013, 04:12 PM
So I ended up using an alternative from the 'Safer's' brand:

Safer's End-All II from TreeHelp (http://www.treehelp.com/safers-end-all-ii/)

I sprayed every inch of every plant I own (that comes inside), took much longer than expected. No adverse effects that I can see yet 4 days later and no sign of mites, but I'm not convinced yet (these little bastards always seem to come back out of no where). My question is should I spray again? The spray says it kills eggs but again, I'm not very convinced with these mites. If I need to spray again, I'll need to do it in the next day or 2 based on a mites life cycle.

Should I spray again or not?

siege2050
10-23-2013, 10:18 PM
I used this stuff recently to kill mites that were on some elephant ears that came from ebay, it took a couple of applications but seemed to do the trick. I would be careful with it though, I applied it to one of the 3 plants I have in high temperatures and it caused a little leaf damage, not severe but I notice. I would not spray it on a hot day. I was a bit skeptical at first as its a 3 in one product, fungicide, insecticide, mite killer, but it specifically mentioned mites on the label.

Garden Safe® Brand Fungicide3® Ready-to-Use | Garden Safe (http://www.gardensafe.com/products-and-solutions/fungicide/garden-safe-brand-fungicide3.aspx)

siege2050
10-23-2013, 10:27 PM
So I ended up using an alternative from the 'Safer's' brand:

Safer's End-All II from TreeHelp (http://www.treehelp.com/safers-end-all-ii/)

I sprayed every inch of every plant I own (that comes inside), took much longer than expected. No adverse effects that I can see yet 4 days later and no sign of mites, but I'm not convinced yet (these little bastards always seem to come back out of no where). My question is should I spray again? The spray says it kills eggs but again, I'm not very convinced with these mites. If I need to spray again, I'll need to do it in the next day or 2 based on a mites life cycle.

Should I spray again or not?
I would spray it once again when it says its safe to repeat on the label, there are probably eggs that were protected by overlaping leaves and such. Get em when they first hatch, thats what I had to do.

Richard
10-23-2013, 10:30 PM
I used this stuff recently to kill mites that were on some elephant ears that came from ebay, it took a couple of applications but seemed to do the trick. I would be careful with it though, I applied it to one of the 3 plants I have in high temperatures and it caused a little leaf damage, not severe but I notice. I would not spray it on a hot day. I was a bit skeptical at first as its a 3 in one product, fungicide, insecticide, mite killer, but it specifically mentioned mites on the label.

Garden Safe® Brand Fungicide3® Ready-to-Use | Garden Safe (http://www.gardensafe.com/products-and-solutions/fungicide/garden-safe-brand-fungicide3.aspx)

The "active" ingredient is Neem Oil, which is a surfactant and not a pesticide. It will entangle juveniles and suffocate some of them, but it is not an effective control of breeding.

This is a far better product for consumers:
Green Light® Fruit Tree Spray (http://www.scotts.com/smg/goprod/green-light-fruit-tree-spray/prod10780016/)

siege2050
10-23-2013, 10:37 PM
The "active" ingredient is Neem Oil, which is a surfactant and not a pesticide. It will entangle juveniles and suffocate some of them, but it is not an effective control of breeding.

This is a far better product for consumers:
Green Light® Fruit Tree Spray (http://www.scotts.com/smg/goprod/green-light-fruit-tree-spray/prod10780016/)

I got the safe garden stuff because its supposed to be safe on houseplants, I have my bananas inside right now. I used some stuff last year not meant for indoor use that gave me a severe headache and made me sick when I brought the plants in at first.

Richard
10-23-2013, 10:47 PM
I got the safe garden stuff because its supposed to be safe on houseplants, I have my bananas inside right now. I used some stuff last year not meant for indoor use that gave me a severe headache and made me sick when I brought the plants in at first.

Green Light Fruit Tree Spray contains:
Pyrethrin - an extract from African Chrysanthemums
Piperynol Butoxide - a distillate from Sassafras
Neem Oil - as a surfactant.

I've sold over 40 cases of the product to people here on the San Diego coast and never had a complaint.

Hammocked Banana
10-23-2013, 11:06 PM
So u are affiliated?

I actually would have used it tbh if I could have found it. This was my best option. Do u think I should reapply Richard? I think I'm going to tomorrow b4 I go away for the weekend.

dana mastro
10-24-2013, 11:10 PM
neem oil does work just fine on bananas doesn't do any harm and when fly's go on it like little fruit fly's u see them die...and its the most natural pesticide u can use if people could do their research

siege2050
10-25-2013, 12:10 AM
neem oil does work just fine on bananas doesn't do any harm and when fly's go on it like little fruit fly's u see them die...and its the most natural pesticide u can use if people could do their research

Stuff I use has neem in it, thats why I use it.:08:

Hammocked Banana
10-26-2013, 08:22 AM
The "most natural pesticide" is not a true statement at all. Richard is saying neem oil is not a pesticde because it does not directly kill the pests like a poison, but a thorough spraying can kill pest by suffication. If you have a significant problem, it won't get the job done however. Neem oil is in a lot of pesticides because it is a surfactant, a substance that reduces the surface tension of water (or your pesticides spray) and allows it to spread evenly over the surface area. It also allows the spray to coat plant waxes or a pests hydrophobic exoskeleton which don't want to mix with water.

I sprayed again on Thursday night. Hopefully that will take care of them, too expensive and cold to do it again this year. I was contemplating trying some predatory mites to try to control and maybe even erradicate any mites that always seem to spring up from the dead. Im not sure however if I can maintain a favourable environment for them. Has anyone had any successes or failures with these? Any thoughts?