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servatusprime
09-03-2013, 11:51 AM
Hi everyone,
It has been brought to my attention that I don't have what I think I have. I know that this is not uncommon when you purchase a tissue culture. So I will leave it to the experts to weigh in. Here are some facts that may help:
1. Bought it from GB as a tissue culture.
2. Supposedly Raja Puri
3. Took about a year to flower.
4. Current height to top of peduncle ~ 7.5'
5. Photos below:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=53510&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=53510&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=53657&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=53657&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=54420&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54420&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=54419&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54419&ppuser=9375)
I can get a few more photos if that would help.
Thank you!!
2woodensticks
09-03-2013, 02:35 PM
fruit does look very angulated looks a lot my Orinoco..but maybe someone else can weigh in..looks nice though
servatusprime
09-03-2013, 04:33 PM
fruit does look very angulated looks a lot my Orinoco..but maybe someone else can weigh in..looks nice though
If Orinoco.............HULK ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::2124:
caliboy1994
09-03-2013, 05:06 PM
I don't think it's Orinoco. The petioles are too open.
servatusprime
09-03-2013, 08:34 PM
More pictures!
Younger p-stem
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=54433&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54433&ppuser=9375)
base of p-stem
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=54432&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54432&ppuser=9375)
Could have been better shot
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=54431&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54431&ppuser=9375)
venturabananas
09-04-2013, 01:36 AM
No idea. Not Rajapuri, but looks like an AAB variety based on the petioles on the younger plant.
servatusprime
09-04-2013, 11:41 AM
Manzano?
PR-Giants
09-04-2013, 12:01 PM
Manzano?
I've never seen a short Manzano, mine average well over 12'. :08:
servatusprime
09-04-2013, 12:42 PM
No mini-manzano?
Well, I have it in a small mound with highly compacted soil a couple of feet down (thank you over conservative engineer). Could the underlying soil cause some dwarfing? This is the first time the plant has fruited from tissue culture. Shouldn't subsequent p-stems be a bit taller? Thank you for your help.
PR-Giants
09-04-2013, 12:57 PM
No mini-manzano?
Well, I have it in a small mound with highly compacted soil a couple of feet down (thank you over conservative engineer). Could the underlying soil cause some dwarfing? This is the first time the plant has fruited from tissue culture. Shouldn't subsequent p-stems be a bit taller? Thank you for your help.
There is a Mini-Manzano in the Wiki.
It might be possible that deep soil could have a dwarfing effect, but I wouldn't know.
I plant in shallow soil, about 8 inches in depth added on top of hardpan soil/rock.
servatusprime
09-04-2013, 01:21 PM
Ok you soil condition is similar in that there is a dense under layer. So that blows my theory. I didn't know that you grew your plants with such a shallow soil layer. That's amazing.
I'm looking at the wiki and I didn't see mini manzano at a quick glance. You weren't referring to dwarf Brazilian were you? That was one of my other guesses initially. Thanks.
PR-Giants
09-04-2013, 01:57 PM
It should be in Musa Manzano, and think it's 2 or 3 photos down.
If you look at the leaf ratio & pseudostem shape, it sure looks like a possible Mini-Manzano.
servatusprime
09-04-2013, 03:38 PM
It should be in Musa Manzano, and think it's 2 or 3 photos down.
If you look at the leaf ratio & pseudostem shape, it sure looks like a possible Mini-Manzano.
I see what you are saying. It doesn't' seem to be specifically called out as such, but it does appear to be shorter in stature. Perhaps I have a shorter sport of manzano, which if true I'll have to call it a dwarf rather than "mini". In my mind the term mini implies something very short, say 2.-3'. (let me know if mini-manzano is already an accepted as a common name)
If it tastes good I'll keep it and see if future p-stems end up being taller. Now I just need to be patient while I wait for it to ripen. Thanks.
Nicolas Naranja
09-04-2013, 09:27 PM
Knowing what is sold as tissue culture, I am wondering if it might be dwarf Green.
servatusprime
09-04-2013, 10:22 PM
Knowing what is sold as tissue culture, I am wondering if it might be dwarf Green.
Any info on this variety other than what is at AgriStarts? The leaves don't seem to be thicker than some of my other varieties. I'll have to double check though.
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