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Hi everyone I got three banana's in 2012 and the names washed away so I can not ID the trees. I bought a California Gold, a Grand Nain, and a Williams. Two survived.
Thanks
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shannondicorse
08-06-2013, 05:32 AM
Hi everyone I got three banana's in 2012 and the names washed away so I can not ID the trees. I bought a California Gold, a Grand Nain, and a Williams. Two survived.
Hi Susan,
Assuming "California Gold" is an ABB of the "Orinoco" group - we can rule that out.
Both of your specimens look like they might be AAA Cavendish group. Both Grand Nain & Williams are Cavendish sports; and both might be difficult to tell apart when young.
Just give them a little time (...and TLC!) and then their differences will show up!
shannon
shannon.di.corse@gmail.com
... and the names washed away so I can not ID ...You have my sympathies; that annoyance still happens over here, too.
(Never trust a "permanent" marker; pencils seem to be the most reliable yet in the long run.)
venturabananas
08-07-2013, 12:04 PM
Susan, I agree with Shannon. None of those 3 photos show Cali Gold, so the Grand Naine and the Williams must be the two survivors. The only way I know to tell those two apart reliably is by characteristics of the inflorescence, which means you'll have to wait until they've flowered to tell them apart. Williams has a "clean" rachis and Grand Naine has a "messy" rachis.
Thanks a lot for all your help. The three little banana's had a hard time last year after I got them. My dogs like the taste of the banana trees also. :(:doggyandnaner:They are bigger this year and the dogs are older so hopefully next year maybe they will flower. I will show more pictures of the two next year. Thanks everyone for all your help.
Susan :goteam:
Progress on the Plants from last year:bananas_b.
On the first plant the first leaf starts at about 4 foot. The second Plant almost 2 foot. Maybe they will flower next year.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58120 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58019&ppuser=16716)
Finally after several years 2012 I'm going to figure out what kind of banana I got. I ordered three bananas from GreenEarth back in 2012. I didn't mark them clearly and only two survived. I ordered a California Gold, Chiquita, and a Williams.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58121 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58120&ppuser=16716)
The plant is about 6' tall.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58153&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58153)
Very small flower!
Going Bananas
06-26-2015, 10:25 AM
Lau
Congrats finally flowered after 2-3 years?
Thats our rate of growth here in SoCal for tcs...Wowzers!
Grand Nains are supposed to be
fast growers according to that
rate and height chart from PRG.
I guess we will find out real soon.
PR-Giants
06-27-2015, 08:07 AM
Lau
Congrats finally flowered after 2-3 years?
Thats our rate of growth here in SoCal for tcs...Wowzers!
Grand Nains are supposed to be
fast growers according to that
rate and height chart from PRG.
I guess we will find out real soon.
GB
Growth rates depends on more than who
can dump the most fertilizer and hormones
on their plant, aeration plays a major role.
This pup was planted in a pot of river sand (a.k.a. clean course sand) and after 14 days it shows good root development. Only water was added as needed, no fertilizer, no growth hormones, no magic. Roots need the proper amount of air & moisture to maximize growth. When these roots reach an area high in organics the above ground growth takes off. .
Now some folks will point to my climate in the tropics as the reason for the quality roots and that 14 days of temps in the 80's is rare in the States or wherever.
Williams pup - April 26, 2013
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=52982 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=52982&ppuser=12081)
Williams pup - May 10, 2013
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=52983 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=52983&ppuser=12081)
venturabananas
06-27-2015, 09:25 AM
Lau
Congrats finally flowered after 2-3 years?
In Southern California, 2-3 years from TC is good, from my experience and what I've heard and seen from others. In fact, that's what I'd expect from plants started from pups, too. In good conditions (e.g., not too close to other plants). Without a greenhouse, you can't expect tropical rates of growth in our climate. Most varieties grow extremely slowly, if at all, during our winters, especially those with all A genomes like the Cavendish varieties.
Don't expect estimates of time to flower from plants grown in different climates to apply to yours. And don't even expect relative differences among cultivars to apply, because different genes can respond to climates differently. But experiment and tell us which do best for you.
Of course, PR-G makes good points about all the kinds of things that can affect growth. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who gets bananas to fruit faster or make bigger bunches, regardless of climate.
Has anyone seen a flower like this? It's kind of small and not very pretty.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58184&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58184)
At least the red color on the flower is starting to appear.:nanadrink:
The photo of the Grand Nain flower in the Wiki wasn't very pretty either. The photo of the Williams flower was more colorful.
Other factors for slow growth in my yard could be (my bad dogs, new concrete in the area next to the plants, construction guys boots, water shortage, and lack of consistent fertilizer). I'm just happy I get good fruit and vegetables each year. :nanadrink:
Richard
06-27-2015, 12:36 PM
... Grand Nains are supposed to be fast growers according to that rate and height chart from PRG ...
In the tropics.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58229&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58229)
Looking better
venturabananas
07-03-2015, 05:41 PM
The couple of cavendish varieties I've fruited always have a slender and unimpressive bud when first emerging, but then make up for it as it develops. Others, like rajapuri, have a massive bud that end up not producing a very large bunch.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58249&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58249)
http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP948-66.jpg
http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP948-67.jpg
http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP948-68.jpg
http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP948-69.jpg
I found this post and pix from pitangadiego (Gran Nain) and I think they look the same as my plant. What do you guys think?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58257&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58257)
My banana flower
Going Bananas
07-04-2015, 11:46 PM
Slaaaaaaam DUNK!
Case closed!
Chiquita banana it is!
Susan how about a comparison taste report?
Is it truly better than store bought?
I guess we can close this thread.
Now let's see how long it takes to fill (July). :woohoonaner:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58258&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58258)
Look at the flower ends. Has anyone else seen this before?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58271&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58271)
Going Bananas
07-08-2015, 11:24 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58258&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58258)
Look at the flower ends. Has anyone else seen this before?
Susan
This is a different tree from the gran nain you posted on July 4?
The gran nain we already ID.
Looks like the fingers are fused on this 1?
What were the choices of tc you ordered?
Going Bananas
07-08-2015, 11:26 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58271&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58271)
Susan
This one is a different tree from the 1 pictured above?
What are the possible choices again?
Richard
07-08-2015, 11:27 PM
Susan
This one is a different tree from the 1 pictured above?
What are the possible choices again?
The question was:
Look at the flower ends. Has anyone else seen this before?
Going Bananas
07-08-2015, 11:36 PM
The question was:
Richard youre the exxxxxxpert!
Why dont you answer Susans question?
All I notice is the fused fingers.
The protruding Q-tip I imagine is the
male/pollen donor?:bananas_b
Richard
07-09-2015, 01:07 AM
Richard youre the exxxxxxpert!
Not on this topic. Give those experts a chance to chime in.
Susan
This is a different tree from the gran nain you posted on July 4?
The gran nain we already ID.
Looks like the fingers are fused on this 1?
What were the choices of tc you ordered?
It's the same plant. I have never seen the ends of the flower look like that.
I think it looks like the picture of the Gran Nain. The Peduncle is suppose to be dark green, but my plant has a lot of red on the peduncle. I'm waiting to see if the rachis is messy or clean.
The plants I ordered were Gran Nain, Williams and California Gold.
Susan
venturabananas
07-10-2015, 08:42 AM
Look at the flower ends. Has anyone else seen this before?
Yes, sometimes I get flowers/fingers fused like that, including on Cavendish varieties.
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