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figafita
07-16-2013, 01:32 PM
Hello there,
I would like to know if this banana is Fhia 18.
Thank you,
Pat
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andy17
07-16-2013, 02:01 PM
Hey figafita,
It's always hard to tell what variety a banana plant is when it's young, but I agree with you that this certainly looks like a FHIA variety of some kind. I'm almost positive it's not a Goldfinger (FHIA-01) because there's way too much purple on the pseudostem and petioles. Also, the Goldfinger doesn't have colored leaf midribs. The faint red blotches on the leaf in the first picture show that it has some AAA genetics (Cavendish & Gros Michel families). The plant also looks a lot like a Namwah type, but they don't have red leaf blotches. My best guess would be either (FHIA-02) or like you were thinking, a FHIA-18. The FHIA-18 is a pretty popular variety, and I know there are quite a few people on here that grow it. Maybe they can help figure this out for sure. Hope this helps!
caliboy1994
07-16-2013, 02:45 PM
It almost looks like a Mysore type. Can you get a shot of the underside of a newly emerged leaf?
sunfish
07-16-2013, 05:21 PM
And the answer is ?
caliboy1994
07-16-2013, 06:16 PM
Hey figafita,
The faint red blotches on the leaf in the first picture show that it has some AAA genetics (Cavendish & Gros Michel families).
Wine splotches are also present on AAB types and some tetraploid genome groups. Pups from my Raja Puri often have wine splotches. The only genome group that doesn't have them that I know of is ABB. To me, this either looks like a Mysore type or possibly a plantain. Could also be something from the Red subgroup.
caliboy1994
07-16-2013, 07:50 PM
Here's the best picture I have of my Pisang Ceylon. I would get another picture but right now it's currently planted in the ground 300 miles away in Santa Clara!
http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Musa/20121117_152201_zpsb8f290d3.jpg
venturabananas
07-17-2013, 12:15 AM
It could be, but it will be impossible to be sure until it fruits.
quendor91
07-17-2013, 03:14 AM
what does FHIA mean?
Dalmatiansoap
07-17-2013, 07:03 AM
what does FHIA mean?
Fundacion Hondurena de investigacion agricola
:nanadrink:
Abnshrek
07-17-2013, 07:50 AM
I think there's a little to much Lipstick (red) to be a Mona Lisa (FHIA 02).. :^)
sunfish
07-17-2013, 08:17 AM
And the answer is ?
Abnshrek
07-17-2013, 08:49 AM
And the answer is ?
What's your guess? :^)
sunfish
07-17-2013, 09:18 AM
What's your guess? :^)
No guess I have no idea.
venturabananas
07-17-2013, 11:47 AM
Color is strongly affected by growing conditions, e.g., how much nitrogen the plant has been getting. Don't get too hung up on its "lipstick". Young plants like this one are practically impossible to identify definitely if the number of possible varieties it could be is large. You can rule out some varieties, for example, like the ABB ones which all have closed petioles.
figafita
07-17-2013, 12:04 PM
I bought this as Fhia 18 with a bunch of others last year. I thought that all of them died but this one surprised me and started to grow some leaves. It bearly grew until a month ago when it started to really take off. Now it is growing 1 leaves a week. One wired thing I noticed about it....it is leaning on one side. I noticed this from the beginning so when I moved it in a bigger container about a month ago I made sure i planted it strait up and now is leaning again.
Caliboy a new leaf emerged last night and this is how it looks....
front
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back
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back of the leaf before last
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and the whole plant
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I useed a stick to prop it up
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sunfish
07-17-2013, 12:45 PM
I bought this as Fhia 18 with a bunch of others last year. I thought that all of them died but this one surprised me and started to grow some leaves. It bearly grew until a month ago when it started to really take off. Now it is growing 1 leaves a week. One wired thing I noticed about it....it is leaning on one side. I noticed this from the beginning so when I moved it in a bigger container about a month ago I made sure i planted it strait up and now is leaning again.
Caliboy a new leaf emerged last night and this is how it looks....
front
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back
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back of the leaf before last
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and the whole plant
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I useed a stick to prop it up
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If it was a mysore or iholena wouldn't you see the purple color on the cigar leaf or does the leaf need to be open to see the color ?
caliboy1994
07-17-2013, 02:05 PM
If it was a mysore or iholena wouldn't you see the purple color on the cigar leaf or does the leaf need to be open to see the color ?
Yes, you would. Sometimes it's not as apparent, but on this plant it's pretty much absent, so that's probably not what it is.
quendor91
07-17-2013, 03:51 PM
So is that the name of a cultivar? Also is it patented?
caliboy1994
07-17-2013, 04:49 PM
So is that the name of a cultivar? Also is it patented?
It's the name of the organization that has bred a series of cultivars. The cultivars are named FHIA-01, FHIA-02, etc.
sunfish
07-17-2013, 06:19 PM
You may find the answer here.
http://www.bananas.org/f2/fhia-18-a-18486.html:woohoonaner:
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