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sunfish
06-04-2013, 11:19 AM
Cherimoya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Honeyhart- was developed in Orange County California in the 1930’s. This variety has medium to large sized fruits with a yellowish green skin. This variety is best for making drinks as it has extremely juicy almost gelatinous flesh with a sweet syrupy flavor.
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bananimal
06-04-2013, 07:56 PM
Tony ---- nice to see you touting annonas. I have a sugar apple seedling growing out --- variety big red. I also ate a fantastic cherimoya in April in Barcelona. These things are great!!!

Only €6.95 per kilo.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=53183&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=53183&ppuser=820)

Illia
06-04-2013, 09:41 PM
Nice! I can't wait til I get myself some Annonas. I've got the similar Pawpaw, but, I'm not in Cali or anywhere similar, so, I have to spend quite some $$ just to get some shipped. Growing isn't hard though for me. :)

sunfish
06-12-2013, 04:41 PM
I have too many fruit on a small tree.What did I do wrong ?

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Want Them All
06-12-2013, 05:19 PM
I have too many fruit on a small tree.What did I do wrong ?

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Maybe you need to thin them out a bit?
I love cherimoyas, bought 18 lbs last month, so yummy. :nanadrink: I have an atemoya and a Fino de Jete cherimoya. I hand pollinate and have several small fruits on them. Is yours in a container?

sunfish
06-12-2013, 05:28 PM
Maybe you need to thin them out a bit?
I love cherimoyas, bought 18 lbs last month, so yummy. :nanadrink: I have an atemoya and a Fino de Jete cherimoya. I hand pollinate and have several small fruits on them. Is yours in a container?

Yes mine is in 30gal.?

crazy banana
06-12-2013, 06:17 PM
Has anybody ever researched the neurotoxic alkaloids in Cherimoya's? Annonacin is related to Parkinson's. The occasional fruit might be OK, but 18 pounds seems that you are playing with your health.

sunfish
06-12-2013, 06:37 PM
Has anybody ever researched the neurotoxic alkaloids in Cherimoya's? Annonacin is related to Parkinson's. The occasional fruit might be OK, but 18 pounds seems that you are playing with your health.

Yes

Parkinson's Focus Today: Tropical Fruits and Parkinson's Disease (http://parkinsonsfocustoday.blogspot.com/2009/06/tropical-fruits-and-parkinsons-disease.html)

crazy banana
06-12-2013, 06:58 PM
Annona Toxicity (http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/forum/48410.html)

Illia
06-12-2013, 07:26 PM
The way I usually see it, the problem lies in the fact that some people seem to use the leaves for tea, which, the toxin is most concentrated in as well as the seeds. I'd imagine that eating the fruit is safer, and eating less Soursop than most other Annonas is also safer. It's a good thing my obsession is more on Pawpaws and Rollinias.

sunfish
06-12-2013, 09:26 PM
Shark Attack: Man Killed Off Reunion Island (http://news.sky.com/story/1088367/shark-attack-man-killed-off-reunion-island)

bananimal
06-12-2013, 10:29 PM
I have too many fruit on a small tree.What did I do wrong ?

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El Bumpo?

sunfish
07-01-2013, 12:59 PM
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sunfish
07-10-2013, 08:41 PM
Cherimoya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Honeyhart- was developed in Orange County California in the 1930’s. This variety has medium to large sized fruits with a yellowish green skin. This variety is best for making drinks as it has extremely juicy almost gelatinous flesh with a sweet syrupy flavor.
:woohoonaner:

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sunfish
06-13-2014, 10:06 PM
My cherimoya lost all it's leaves in April.Look at it now:woohoonaner:

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One drop of First Prize is all it took :woohoonaner:

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sunfish
07-15-2014, 10:05 AM
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bananimal
07-15-2014, 09:05 PM
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That one cherimoya is worth more than every passi ever grown! And it aint invasive!

sunfish
07-27-2014, 11:34 AM
Cherimoya update :woohoonaner:

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sunfish
03-01-2015, 01:54 PM
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gnappi
03-10-2015, 11:28 PM
Has anybody ever researched the neurotoxic alkaloids in Cherimoya's? Annonacin is related to Parkinson's. The occasional fruit might be OK, but 18 pounds seems that you are playing with your health.

Relation is not relevant. For example, Niacin is related to nicotine (in cigarettes) and Nicotine can be oxidised to nicotinic acid (niacin) Oh, you can get pellagra by not having enough niacin (B3)

But your question may be easy to answer. If researchers went to several annona plantations to document a possible very local rise in incidence of Parkinsons... then ask parkinsons patients if they consumed a lot of annona. Since annona are relatively uncommon fruits it should be relatively easy to correlate these two data points into something tangible.

Anyway...

Anona are being investigated for cancer related therapies, but Carambola can be detrimental to people with kidney problems, then again coffee is suspected to slow the onset of or make one immune to alzheimers, and hot peppers in Mexico are thought to prevent cancer of the stomach and GI tract. Then there's red yeast rice (and niacin) with strong evidence to lower cholesterol. And of course all those bananas and other sweet fruits HAVE to put weight on you, leading to...

I think it's about time we slow down looking for excuses to not have something in a diet or eating a magic bullet for prevention of disease. Eat what's good. Even a whopper on occasion :-)

Richard
03-11-2015, 02:36 AM
The majority of commercial Cherimoya and Soursop groves in central and south America are owned by pharmaceutical companies. The fruits are not harvested for food, but rather to extract Annonacin.

Pharmaceuticaly, Annonacin is used topically to destroy cancer cells and other nerve-like cells in humans. It is typically applied by micro-encapsulated injections to the infected region -- esp. in the case of prostrate cancer. The AMA lists the maximum lifetime dosage at 90 mg. Typical injections are 30 mg.

Contrast that with the concentration of Annonacin in Annona fruits.
Soursop - about 30 mg per fruit or bottle of Guanabana juice.
Cherimoya - about 15 mg per fruit. My colleague at the La Jolla Neurosciences Institute has calculated that it is safe to eat about 5 Cherimoyas per year; and consumption of 5 to 20 per year is a grey area, and over 20 per year is certain to bring on Atypical Parkinson's disease (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Atypical+Parkinson%27s+disease) in 3 to 5 years. I have met people suffering from this.
Atamoya - about 2 mg per fruit.
Paw Paw (Asimina triloba) - about 0.6 mg per fruit.

Relation is not relevant. For example, Niacin is related to nicotine (in cigarettes) and Nicotine can be oxidised to nicotinic acid (niacin) Oh, you can get pellagra by not having enough niacin (B3)

But your question may be easy to answer. If researchers went to several annona plantations to document a possible very local rise in incidence of Parkinsons... then ask parkinsons patients if they consumed a lot of annona. Since annona are relatively uncommon fruits it should be relatively easy to correlate these two data points into something tangible.

Anyway...

Anona are being investigated for cancer related therapies, but Carambola can be detrimental to people with kidney problems, then again coffee is suspected to slow the onset of or make one immune to alzheimers, and hot peppers in Mexico are thought to prevent cancer of the stomach and GI tract. Then there's red yeast rice (and niacin) with strong evidence to lower cholesterol. And of course all those bananas and other sweet fruits HAVE to put weight on you, leading to...

I think it's about time we slow down looking for excuses to not have something in a diet or eating a magic bullet for prevention of disease. Eat what's good. Even a whopper on occasion :-)

sunfish
03-17-2015, 11:31 PM
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