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STEELVIPER
05-07-2007, 07:16 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/California-Gold-Cold-Hardy-dwarf-Banana-plant-tree_W0QQitemZ290113898949QQihZ019QQcategoryZ43550QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem
Pithy_Cherub
05-08-2007, 12:59 AM
Niiiice!
6 days to go & it's got a durn 'newbie nibbler' inching up the price! JeffEarl's girls in the pix are lil' cutie pies - that's gotta help bring in bidders.
Hafta keep an eye on this one - I've been looking for his auctions since I read @ them here on the forum. TY for posting it!
Diana
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STEELVIPER
05-17-2007, 04:47 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/California-Gold-Cold-Hardy-dwarf-Banana-plant-tree_W0QQitemZ290117823180QQihZ019QQcategoryZ43550QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem
AnnaJW
05-18-2007, 09:35 PM
Oh, I am so tempted to bid! I have one with two small pups, but the pups aren't pushing leaves. The mom seems happy enough though.
STEELVIPER
05-19-2007, 03:11 PM
Anna. You are a banana plant fiend! LMAO!!!!
AnnaJW
05-19-2007, 05:48 PM
Yes - I truly need help! :2718: :2212: :2718:
pitangadiego
05-19-2007, 08:36 PM
I expect to have some pups at the CRFG Fruit Festival in August.
AnnaJW
05-19-2007, 09:06 PM
Where is that held Jon?
pitangadiego
05-20-2007, 12:06 AM
This year, in San Diego>
http://www.festivaloffruit.org/
AnnaJW
05-20-2007, 01:34 AM
Thanks!!!
STEELVIPER
05-20-2007, 08:54 PM
Anna. you are an E Bay bidding machine. :2738:
kgbenson
05-20-2007, 09:26 PM
www.bidnapper.com
It really help keep the prices under control.
Keith
STEELVIPER
05-30-2007, 03:36 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/California-Gold-Cold-Hardy-dwarf-Banana-plant-tree_W0QQitemZ290123424530QQihZ019QQcategoryZ43550QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem
STEELVIPER
05-30-2007, 03:38 PM
??????????
http://cgi.ebay.com/Musa-Black-Beauty-EXTREMELY-RARE-Black-Banana_W0QQitemZ170117192343QQihZ007QQcategoryZ25463QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem
AnnaJW
05-30-2007, 04:38 PM
That's interesting! Someone here must have one?
bigdog
05-30-2007, 06:35 PM
That is definitely not a Musa balbisiana. Looks like it could be Musa cheesmani or M. nagensium though. The leaf bases are a dead giveaway that it isn't Musa balbisiana. Nice plant, though me thinks he's asking a bit (WAY) too much for it, when you can the get a Musa cheesmani with a blackish pseudostem for whole bunch cheaper!
harveyc
06-08-2007, 11:12 AM
That is definitely not a Musa balbisiana. Looks like it could be Musa cheesmani or M. nagensium though. The leaf bases are a dead giveaway that it isn't Musa balbisiana. Nice plant, though me thinks he's asking a bit (WAY) too much for it, when you can the get a Musa cheesmani with a blackish pseudostem for whole bunch cheaper!
Bigdog, he's not asking way too much. People are willing to pay much more than his starting price. He has sold something like five pups on eBay this year and the cheapest any has gone for is $47.52 and the highest was something like $66. It would be more accurate to say that buyers are willing to pay too much. These have a reputation of being reliable fruit producers in zone 9 and they're worth what people are willing to pay.
bigdog
06-08-2007, 03:45 PM
Well, I will agree with you that it is worth whatever someone pays for it. I'm a firm believer in capitalism and free enterprise, and have no gripe with that at all. I'm just saying that what he's offering is not a form of Musa balbisiana, so he is misrepresenting his product. That's really not uncommon these days either, unfortunately.
When you say that they are reliable fruit producers, I don't see any mention of that in his auction. Besides, if it is Musa balbisiana, then it would be full of seeds.
By the way, looks like he was asking too much...it went unsold.
harveyc
06-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Well, I will agree with you that it is worth whatever someone pays for it. I'm a firm believer in capitalism and free enterprise, and have no gripe with that at all. I'm just saying that what he's offering is not a form of Musa balbisiana, so he is misrepresenting his product. That's really not uncommon these days either, unfortunately.
When you say that they are reliable fruit producers, I don't see any mention of that in his auction. Besides, if it is Musa balbisiana, then it would be full of seeds.
By the way, looks like he was asking too much...it went unsold.
Bigdog, I see now that we are talking about two different things. This thread started out with one of Jeff Earl's California Gold eBay auctions and then a link to another and then the original poster (STEELVIPER) posted a link to an eBay auction for a Musa 'Black Beauty' starting at $80 by an entirely different seller. That auction did not receive any bids so it was too high of an asking price, I'll readily agree. On the other hand, Jeff Earl has started his California Gold pup auctions for $29 and every one has gone for way more than that. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.
I thought you were talking of California Gold which has been discussed here a lot in the past. I'm a new member of the forum here, but have lurked around. CG was discussed in a long thread last year, including this thread. It got a bit controversial beginning with post #22 (IMO) and your name even came up shortly after that by mikevan. http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?t=869&page=3
Cheers,
Harvey
bigdog
06-08-2007, 10:35 PM
Harvey,
Glad that's cleared up, lol! I don't have a dog in the CG hunt, so to speak. I do have a nice Cal. Gold going in the ground very soon though. Just need to find a nice spot for it. I'd like to test the stem hardiness out for myself. It might fruit next year if I'm lucky. No, I don't think Jeff's asking too much at all! His auctions always come away with several bidders, and the price goes significantly higher than his starting price, so more power to him. Best,
Frank
STEELVIPER
06-13-2007, 03:49 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Rare-Banana-Musa-Black-Balbisiana-Big-Bulb_W0QQitemZ220121516335QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43550QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem
AnnaJW
06-13-2007, 04:01 PM
I wouldn't mind paying that for the plant, (not that I can afford it) but almost $60 shipping?!!!
harveyc
06-13-2007, 04:50 PM
Mark, it's somewhat confusing when you post eBay auctions for something other than a Caliornia Gold in this thread. It would be helpful if you wrote something to go along with the link, IMO. Because of Anna's comment I wondered if Jeff had made a mistake on one of his Cal Gold auctions but I see that you linked to a banana being shipped from Thailand. I doubt it would even get to us as it would probably be stopped by the inspectors.
STEELVIPER
06-13-2007, 06:30 PM
I'am sorry about that. Next time i will detail what i post. I was just lazy today. Its about 100F here today. :2738: Also i have a friend that has bought from this Ebay seller. He did receive his plant.
chong
06-14-2007, 01:18 AM
Usually, Mark posts items like this under the "Saw this on eBay" thread. Guess he just got carried away, since recently he's been following up on then CA Gold on eBay from Jeff.
Anna, the plant is coming all the way from Thailand, hence the steep shipping cost.
One of these days, if I can find someone to bring me some from the Philippines, I'm going to get several corms each of the Seņorita and that Black Balbisiana. My Plant Import Permit will expire in 2009, so I better hustle. I need to contact someone to dig up the corms, clean them up, dry them out, get a phytosanitary certificate, and ship them. It needs a lot of my time to just get hold of the proper person to do it, but then, by golly, work keeps getting in the way. Like now, after I get back to Seattle, chances are good that I will be headed for Las Vegas after a couple of weeks. Wish I could settle down soon.
AnnaJW
06-14-2007, 02:54 AM
Wow, Chong! That sounds like alot of work to get the plant material here!
We have an aquaintance who has a place in the Philippines. Can you give me the steps involved so I could have her bring some banana's back to the US?
Thanks!
STEELVIPER
06-18-2007, 12:25 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/California-Gold-Cold-Hardy-dwarf-Banana-plant-tree_W0QQitemZ290129882828QQihZ019QQcategoryZ43550QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem
harveyc
06-18-2007, 01:49 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/California-Gold-Cold-Hardy-dwarf-Banana-plant-tree_W0QQitemZ290129882828QQihZ019QQcategoryZ43550QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem
STEELVIPER, I keep watching Jeff's Cal Gold auctions (this is about his 7th this year) since a friend is interested in getting one. I believe the highest any has gone for is $66.00 while the lowest is $48.52. Quite a demand for Cal Gold, obviously.
I wonder how many of the buyers are visitors of this forum.
MediaHound
06-18-2007, 03:00 AM
I wonder why Jeff doesn't come here and post links to his ebay auctions himself! Jeff, we don't mind!
harveyc
06-22-2007, 12:30 AM
I wonder why Jeff doesn't come here and post links to his ebay auctions himself! Jeff, we don't mind!
Jeff has no need to hype his auctions as enough folks are following them. His prior auctions this year went for $48.52 to $66.00, but today his latest pup went for an outragous $150.07 (a very disappointed second bidder lost out although they bid $150.00!). Gold, indeed! Go, Jeff! :D
chong
06-22-2007, 01:32 AM
Wow, Chong! That sounds like alot of work to get the plant material here!
We have an aquaintance who has a place in the Philippines. Can you give me the steps involved so I could have her bring some banana's back to the US?
Thanks!
Just get a plant import permit from the USDA. They will issue you a permit number. As I explained earlier, after your source obtains the plant (assuming that it's not a plant that's banned), they need it clean it up, remove the soil and replace it with some kind of medium, e.g., coconut coir, peat moss, sphagnum moss, etc. Then bring it to an agricultural inspection office to have it inspected and obtain a phytosanitary certificate. (Joe Real informs me that the Philippine government has opened an agricultural inspection offfice near the Manila International Airport.) Slap on the certificate onto the box/container, write down your Import Permit Number with the permit holder's name and address, and the port of entry into the US. . . . . . And you're all set - just have your "courier" bring a copy of your Import Permit to show the USDA inspectors at the airport.
If you're sending it via air cargo, as opposed to someone bringing it over for you, the steps are the same. Except that you will have to have someone ship the plants for you, with all the information on the box that I listed above, and you need to have to clear it through Customs and USDA. It's not a big deal if you want to clear it though Customs yourself. You just need to personally go through the motions yourself before the items arrive because the package has to be moved from one place of the airport to another, and it has to be moved by a bonded carrier while within the confines of the airport. However, you will need to be at the office where it is received to confirm that it's yours, and pay any Duties/Taxes due, then release it to the USDA inspection station, where, if things are in order, it will be released to you.
In certain airports, like in Seatac Airport, the Customs and USDA offices are not far from each other that they may even be in the same immediate building. Thus, you will not need a bonded carrier to move it from one place to the other.
If you call the USDA office nearest you, they can explain this to you and even identify the locations of where you have to meet your package, etc. They are actually very, very helpful. At least the ones here in the Seattle area are. I think that this is because they appreciate the fact that you are doing it the proper way.
And finally, if you're not strapped for cash like me, just hire a Customs Broker to do the work for you!
AnnaJW
06-22-2007, 03:44 AM
Thanks so much for the info!!!
STEELVIPER
06-27-2007, 07:13 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/California-Gold-Cold-Hardy-dwarf-Banana-plant-tree_W0QQitemZ290133582828QQihZ019QQcategoryZ43550QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem
????? not sure what this one is? Musa Bordelon?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Banana-Tree-Green-w-Red-Spots-Grows-12-15-Tall_W0QQitemZ180133495893QQihZ008QQcategoryZ42353QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
STEELVIPER
07-25-2007, 03:42 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/California-Gold-Cold-Hardy-dwarf-Banana-plant-tree_W0QQitemZ290142721093QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item290142721093
Taylor
07-25-2007, 03:54 PM
It ends tomorrow and it has no bids! Thats odd.
harveyc
07-25-2007, 03:59 PM
I've been watching all of Jeff's Cal Gold auctions. This is about his 10th this year. They have ranged from $44 to $150.07, with an average of about $65. I've got two plants (one in bloom) and have two tiny pups that I stare at a lot. LOL I hope to get an AeAe and I can only guess how I'd be watching that baby every minute.
harveyc
07-26-2007, 12:29 PM
It ends tomorrow and it has no bids! Thats odd.
Several of Jeff's auctions didn't have a bid until a day or so before the end. For some reason, he only uses 3 day auctions. I went ahead and bid $35 on this one but it should go for more than that. Someone with an ID of RickiTikkiTavi has bid on several auctions but has never got one yet. He bid $43 on the last one that ended up at $44. Maybe this is his/her chance to finally get one.
Taylor, you wouldn't happen to have an AeAe plant you'd sell me by chance?
Taylor
07-26-2007, 01:42 PM
Harvey,
I could only wish to have the holy grail or bananas! Seems im not the only one looking for it! They have them for sale on EBay sometimes and the prices (most of the time) are getting more reasonable. Ill PM you a link to an AeAe Banana that noone has seemed to have found on ebay.
SCRATCH THAT! Gooooo Harvey! The Cheap one I found on ebay..... you have the winning bid on so far! Good Luck and I hope you get it.
harveyc
07-26-2007, 01:50 PM
Taylor, I'm not holding my breath on that one from Stokes. I finally bid because I was hoping the price would get high fast enough to discourage more parties from getting interested. Still, they sold one last week for something like $225 and I'm not in the market that desparately. I saw your avatar and thought "just maybe...." ;)
Taylor
07-26-2007, 01:56 PM
Thats actually my Canna 'Stuttgart'. It has the same variegation as AeAe and thats why I bought it, for $25 not $250. :2758: The leaves burn up a lot where I put them, but it overall adds a nice tropical look to the area. It was 1 plant, I split it into 2 but accidentally broke the rhizome 3 ways. The 3rd way is still tiny, but the other 2 ways have divided and I probably have about 10 or so now. Ive been trying to get AeAe also but with no luck. I wish I was around when Terry had those 14 pups. I would've bought one from him for $125 without complaining because people who have them now don't want to divide them in fear of damage the the whole mat. I was just discussing this with Steve L.
Steve in France
07-26-2007, 02:29 PM
Taylor , try watering your Stuttgart with Tomato fert , it has high Magnesium and this helps stop the leaves from burning. Also Stuttgart can revert to green , mine did this in it's third growing season.
Later
Steve
Taylor
07-26-2007, 03:01 PM
I just read yesterday something about Epsom Salts doing the trick as they have Magnesium too? Ill try that soon, or the tomato fert. Also, why would it revert to full green? Did it stay that way forever? Mine is almost too white for me.:2742:
Steve in France
07-26-2007, 03:39 PM
Taylor, I never used the Epsom salts so don't know if they work , they are said to work.
I like the Mirical Grow soluble fert and three month slow release Tomato fert.
I don'r know why they revert , but expert less white next year. Plus if they revert how do the suppiliers keep the supply coming ? There must be a way to stop them reverting to green, perhaps a small division of this years Stuttgart will always be white but when you have it in the ground for a few years the rhizome mass some how a equals green plant. I guess take a small two or three eye division to be safe.
Later
Steve
Taylor
07-26-2007, 06:06 PM
I might use Epsom salt. Also, I will have to look into this. I might dig a piece up then this year and maybe the dormancy and dryness will cause it to stay white. I don't know if it'll make a difference if I did that instead of leaving it in the ground. Well see. Has anyone else had this problem? Maybe it was a freak thing at random.
harveyc
07-28-2007, 04:42 PM
Jeff Earl has listed another Cal Gold
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290143732447
I will bid on it again if it doesn't get a bid before the last day. If anyone from here is bidding, let me know so I don't increase your cost (too badly!).
Steve in France
07-28-2007, 05:32 PM
I ment to bid on the last one and then missed it , I will not bid on the next one. I'm up for a pup from another source if someone has one . Bit late in the season , so perhaps I should wait until next year for one.
Later
Steve
Taylor
07-28-2007, 08:05 PM
Guess who found another pup on their Cali Gold yesterday?! :p Woo Hoo!
harveyc
07-28-2007, 11:42 PM
I ment to bid on the last one and then missed it , I will not bid on the next one. I'm up for a pup from another source if someone has one . Bit late in the season , so perhaps I should wait until next year for one.
Later
Steve
Why not bid on this one? The large plant Joe Real gave me a couple of months ago now has a couple of pups but I don't expect to have any to spare for 2-3 years with my own growing plans and gifts for some family members, etc. I also plan to grow some to donate to a charity to include in their auction since I think they will bring some good money with this group. My eBay ID is the same as here so it is easy to tell if I'm bidding. Let me know if you bid and I won't place a bid. Otherwise, I won't let it pass by for less than $40 or so. Jeff sold pups up until late August or so last year.
Southern-Grower
08-05-2007, 08:28 AM
this is the most over rated plant that i've ever seen.
grew one and eaten it too.. no special looks or taste..
cold hardiness is same as d.o.
dollar for dollar, better off with d.o..
harveyc
08-05-2007, 09:01 AM
this is the most over rated plant that i've ever seen.
grew one and eaten it too.. no special looks or taste..
cold hardiness is same as d.o.
dollar for dollar, better off with d.o..
Well, it may be the most over-rated by some but is also under-rated by some others such as yourself. My Dwarf Orinoco did not survive the 20F we had in January but the Cal Gold, which came from Joe Real, survived fine with the same temps. Your experiences are different and your climate is different. People have grown California Gold in the Central Valley of California and found it to grow and fruit more reliably than Dwarf Orinoco. I have fruit on my California Gold right now but have never got my Dwarf Orinoco to fruit, though it probably would have it it wasn't quite so cold this past January. Your experiences may be different, but that does not make others wrong in wanting to grow California Gold. If you don't think they're worth it, don't bother buying one. This was argued in a different thread previously with unproductive results. The bottom line is that a California Gold tastes tons better than something that doesn't fruit at all.
Taylor
08-05-2007, 10:48 AM
My bottom line is that Jeff has good advertising. People buy it because of his good advertising. People like the plant. He likes the money. Its a win-win unless it dies in winter. (someone bought one and they live in Alaska????!) Oh well the person is happy and so if Jeff. Im happy with mine from Gabe.:0496:
birdman
06-12-2008, 11:33 PM
looking to buy a california gold.
Steve in France
06-14-2008, 10:14 AM
I don't defend Jeff or think he needs defending. I bought from him for a few reasons .
I don't have 'California Gold' and I wanted the real McCoy.I get real tired of not receiving what I ordered and ending up with mystery Musa.
I get real tired of bad divisions (I've only had good ones this year,thanks guys) that take months to restart or die. Jeffs plants are great divisions and are forming new leaves and rollers right now. I don't care if the taste is not top, I live in Maryland , just getting fruit would be cool. Jeff gives good service and good email.
A 100 bucks is not a lot for a rare plant, I've payed 300 for a three foot hardy Palm Tree in the past and I was getting a good deal on that plant.I grow Tree Ferns in my garden in Europe and one of my big ones would go for Lord knows what price here as you cannot get a 4 foot tall Dicksonia antarctica for love nor money as they say.
My only Hobby is the plants , it's a Hobby , people enjoy there Hobbies and spend money on them for pleasure. They generally could not care less if people think they are wasting there money because it's there's to waste and it gives pleasure.
So here is a guy who is Happy to have 'California Gold' whatever it costs because I enjoy having 'California Gold' and look forward to passing on the pleasure to other Plantsmen.
Kylie2x
06-14-2008, 11:37 AM
Well said Steve.. I have to agree.. One mans trash is another mans treasure... Steve do Plantswomen count...LOL???
Kylie
Steve in France
06-14-2008, 01:15 PM
Kylie , sorry about that , I should have said Plantsperson. Me with a UK Politically correct Theatre background too. For shame Steve :o
All the Best
Steve
chong
06-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Kylie , sorry about that , I should have said Plantsperson. Me with a UK Politically correct Theatre background too. For shame Steve :o
All the Best
Steve
I thought the proper non-gender word was simply "Planter"?
Steve in France
06-14-2008, 02:07 PM
Hi Chong , Plantsman/Plantswoman in English English would denote an expert in Plants with a passion for the subject. To be correct I could use Plantsman/Plantswoman or Plantsperson. Planter would be in US terms a container to put plants in , in English terms it would be a person who plants.
I think that's all correct, I speak UK English and Canadian English and I'm working on US English ;)
Best Wishes
Steve
momoese
06-14-2008, 03:01 PM
My Stuttgart has never changed in the 3 years I've had it. This year it's getting way more sun because I removed a 6 foot tall fence that used to provide shade for it. I have noticed that the new shoots that grow up in the full sun seem to last longer before burning. Also some of the leaves are mostly green, some are variegated with cream colors, some are variegated with bright white, and some are totally white. I have them in the same bed as some bananas so they get the same organic food with tons of Sul Po Mag so maybe that's keeping them from burning too much. They receive full sun from about 9am to 3 pm. I also keep them heavily watered every day. This year I'm starting to get blooms at 6 feet tall instead of 10-12 feet like last year. I believe the plants were stretching to get more sun.
Jorden (jnstropic) uses potassium nitrate to suppress the white on his young AE AE pups to give them a growth boost. Read about it here.
http://togofcoralgables.com/MyAeAesBrother.aspx
chong
06-14-2008, 03:01 PM
Hi Chong , Plantsman/Plantswoman in English English would denote an expert in Plants with a passion for the subject. To be correct I could use Plantsman/Plantswoman or Plantsperson. Planter would be in US terms a container to put plants in , in English terms it would be a person who plants.
I think that's all correct, I speak UK English and Canadian English and I'm working on US English ;)
Best Wishes
Steve
In my post, you will notice that the P in Planter is underscored, like it is now. That was to emphasize that the letter was in the upper case, in order to make the word a proper noun, and indicate that it was a person as distinguished from a pot, in US terms.
It's like, before, everyone who presided on a meeting, council, or group was called a "chairman", regardless of gender. Now, it has evolved from chairman/chairwoman to chairperson to just simply "chair". But then, of all places, in Hollywood, everyone now who is acting is called "actor" regardless of gender. What happened to the actresses? Hmmmm, I wonder if we should just call all those airline attendants just simply "stewards"????
I am fascinated as to why we are even discussing these because, as a person who has English as his fourth language, the rules keep changing, in my view, just for the sake of argument. How far do we bring this to? For example in the Bible, where statements containing "man" refers to "mankind" or the "human race". Even the words referred to contain "man". Shall we eventually replace "man" with "persons"? And what about the word "woman"????
I wish that we were back when "Plantsman" referred to the person who is an expert in plants. I know for one, that that was who Steve was referring to. I also know that Kylie was just poking fun at the current "PCness" situation.
Steve in France
06-14-2008, 03:46 PM
Chong , everthing you say is correct. As a member of the British Theatre I only say Actor as a habit. Back in the early 80's there was real pressure from the females in the Company to be correct , which is fine , but it does keep one on ones toes. I'm a Dyslexic person so I often don't express myself well with the written word. Well done with four languages , I speak only English and some French. My kids are Bi-lingual in French and English and my wife also has German , so I'm the Dummy around here :-) . What confuses me often is that Americans pronounce the Latin names of plants in very different way to the way it's done in the UK . Luckly 'California Gold' is pronounced the same way but with a different accent in the UK lol .
All the best
Steve
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