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pushak513
12-23-2012, 01:13 PM
Got this from a board member in Nov. it seems to be very healthy but its not enjoying the inside climate I don't think. I have been cutting back the dry parts of the P stem. the leaf it unrolling super slow and is so large now it can't hold itself up so I have it propped up in the window to get light. it has 4 pups comming out and I have 3 months till I could even think about putting it outside. How can I make sure all of it, not just the pups make it till spring? all help is welcome
when I got it
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n370/pushak513/Siam.jpg
Now
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n370/pushak513/090.jpg
pups
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n370/pushak513/092.jpg
edzone9
12-23-2012, 01:50 PM
The good news is that you have 4 healthy Peepers ;) .
So is the mother plant dont survive , the Peepers will .
Good Luck..
Illia
12-23-2012, 02:57 PM
Ditto on the pups. Siams like it hot though. How hot is it? How's the humidity? Water? Fertilizer?
pushak513
12-23-2012, 04:35 PM
it stays a constant 70-75 in the house I have a bowl of water near it for some humidity. I only water maybe once every 2 weeks and no fert at all. I open the shades on that window every day to try and let as much light as possible in. there is also a hot box with a grow light in it right next to it. I think that is why the pups are doing so well they get that indirect light almost 24/7
Illia
12-23-2012, 05:43 PM
Personally, I'd just patiently wait out the mother banana's growth, see how she does. But really, I wouldn't be worried about losing her as long as those pups make it.
LilRaverBoi
12-23-2012, 09:33 PM
Siam Ruby is from a very hot/humid climate and this is what they require to do well. When I had mine, it would always do poorly during the winter indoors. Narrow, spindly leaves, thin pseudostem that would get thinner layer by layer till the whole thing just flopped over. They are not very vigorous plants, IMHO....they do pup like mad though, which ensures you can keep something alive till the next summer.
I'd try to keep the temps in the 80's+ if possible or try a heating pad underneath. Up the humidity if you can as well. Beyond that, I wouldn't get too hopeful on the main plant....just try to keep the pups going.
If anyone else has any other ground-breaking method for overwintering these, I'm all ears. I gave up on them and no longer grow them cause I got tired of dealing with it.
pushak513
12-23-2012, 11:22 PM
maybe some Tiesto would make it perk up a bit?:08:
LilRaverBoi
12-24-2012, 01:38 AM
maybe some Tiesto would make it perk up a bit?:08:
LMFAO! And all this time I was rocking Armin van Buuren! My, how silly. :08:
2woodensticks
12-24-2012, 11:43 AM
not very tall..try using large clear plastic trash bag..holds in humidity and still lets in light..just remove every once and a while for air circulation..
pushak513
12-24-2012, 12:32 PM
LMFAO! And all this time I was rocking Armin van Buuren! My, how silly. :08:
and that is why it was sad my friend...it wanted that tiesto..well really just southern sun :ha:
I'll try the clear bag thing sticks, good idea
blownz281
12-24-2012, 07:13 PM
This summer I bought two 3 ft tc plants and planted outside. They grew like crazy all summer,but when I started to water them a lot more like my other nanners they started looking unhappy. Trimmed the one mother plant down in October and puped like crazy and other mother plant stopped throwing out leaves. One pup got up to five foot. So I dug it up and several small pups. Small pups are pumping themselves last time I was at my parents greenhouse. Which doesn't go below 40 degrees. Large pup is in our storage closet connected to the house. Two 40 watt fluorescent 6500k bulbs,36" fish tank full of water heated. We hit the 30's the other day with frost and the closet was at 70 degrees. Fish tank is not needed but it was free and so was the heater,plants enjoy it. Siam is growing great throwing out leaves and great color. Lights go on at 6 pm and off at 4 am.
pushak513
12-24-2012, 11:24 PM
this one stays in the spare bed room window open for light fish tank next to it with a light on 24/7 with some small plants in it. the house stays at a constant 70 or above but that leaf is just gettin floppy...might cut it in half so there isnt so much weight on top. the pups are already bigger than the original pic with almost a full leaf each. crazy how slow the mom is going but how fast the pups are comming along.
blownz281
12-25-2012, 12:08 AM
Hmm,did you say what type of soil you had? Maybe mother never recovered from shipping? I wouldn't worry about the mother plant unless the pups start looking bad.
Abnshrek
12-25-2012, 12:17 AM
Some plants put all their energy into growing to the pups some don't. The stem looks a lil thin to be so tall. I'd let be and see what it does for you. :^)
LilRaverBoi
12-25-2012, 02:26 AM
house stays at a constant 70 or above
Thermostat temp or temp recorded near the plant? Soil temp? Just questions for thought.
pushak513
12-25-2012, 10:05 AM
Thermostat temp or temp recorded near the plant? Soil temp? Just questions for thought.
soil temp is 70 and a bit on the dry side ph is 7 would like to get it down to 6 but now isnt the time to be playing with it. I'll wait till the pups are safe to experiment. hope it pulls through Id like to have a nice size nana to plant out in the spring.
pushak513
12-29-2012, 04:15 AM
the plant just keeps going down hill. one of the pups has a full leaf and another roller comming out, 2 others are about to have a full leaf and one fell over I think its the runt and won't make it. I cut the big leaf in half to reduce weight. the stem keeps getting thinner and drying out and the leaf keeps wanting to flop over. I REALLY don't want to chop the P stem but I might have 2 if it dosent pick up soon. Anyone think it will pup more if I do that? not much experience with this type.
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