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bananimal
11-08-2012, 09:11 AM
Visited a club members open house this year a just remembered he was growing the BJ. Went back yesterday and got some pics and several pups. Traded for a big Pisang Klotek sucker.

Check out the narrow leaves, height and the blueness of the 2 bunches on one of the mats. He's got 3 more large mats - lots of pups.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51266&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51266&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51265&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51265&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51263&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51263&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51264&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51264&ppuser=820)

sunfish
11-08-2012, 09:20 AM
Visited a club members open house this year a just remembered he was growing the BJ. Went back yesterday and got some pics and several pups. Traded for a big Pisang Klotek sucker.

Check out the narrow leaves, height and the blueness of the 2 bunches on one of the mats. He's got 3 more large mats - lots of pups.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51266&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51266&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51265&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51265&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51263&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51263&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51264&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51264&ppuser=820)

I'm probably wrong but I don't think that's B.Java :)

bananimal
11-08-2012, 10:18 AM
Tell me why!? Height, stem and fruit color look good. Also fruit shape and size.

That's why I posted the pics before I ship any out.

What are they------ True Blue ------- or new compost material?

Where is everybody?

sunfish
11-08-2012, 10:25 AM
Tell me why!? Height, stem and fruit color look good. Also fruit shape and size.

That's why I posted the pics before I ship any out.

What are they------ True Blue ------- or new compost material?
I might need glasses
Where is everybody?
To me fruit shape and p-stem
Let see what Gabe or Mark say
I might need glasses

sunfish
11-08-2012, 10:32 AM
[QUOTE=bananimal;208776]Visited a club members open house this year a just remembered he was growing the BJ. Went back yesterday and got some pics and several pups. Traded for a big Pisang Klotek sucker.

Check out the narrow leaves, height and the blueness of the 2 bunches on one of the mats. He's got 3 more large mats - lots of pups.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51266&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51266&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49499&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49499)

trebor
11-08-2012, 11:03 AM
Maybe in a month or less one of those bunches will be closer to ripe and then you'll be able to see "blue"
because Im no expert :) I can't even begin to toss around my thoughts ...
But if there is blue on those bunches its just not showing in the picture. blue can get hidden in the green. so if banamail says Blue then they are blue ...
Tonys picture is screaming blue ha hs

momoese
11-08-2012, 12:00 PM
Trebor, the blue is there until they ripen, then it looks like white powder over yellow skin.

Did they look more blue in person? Maybe your camera is not capturing the color correctly?

Gabe15
11-08-2012, 12:03 PM
It would be easier to tell if the male buds were left on, but they look more like Namwahs to me.

trebor
11-08-2012, 12:05 PM
Trebor, the blue is there until they ripen, then it looks like white powder over yellow skin.

Did they look more blue in person? Maybe your camera is not capturing the color correctly?

Ok :) I learned something today ... thanks

momoese
11-08-2012, 12:07 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49499&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49499)

I'm sure these are real but I have to say the white balance of this photo is off making them appear more blue than they really are.

bananimal
11-08-2012, 12:41 PM
I'm sure these are real but I have to say the white balance of this photo is off making them appear more blue than they really are.

The wall looks blue. Hey! Did Tony spray paint those naners?

bananimal
11-08-2012, 12:45 PM
It would be easier to tell if the male buds were left on, but they look more like Namwahs to me.

Gabe ---- if Tonys pic is the BJ then I have to agree with you cause of fruit shape. The blue fruit have a blunted flower end. The pics I took have a tapered tip just like Namwah.

sunfish
11-08-2012, 12:51 PM
The wall looks blue. Hey! Did Tony spray paint those naners?

Are you wearing your blue tinted shades again ?

sunfish
11-08-2012, 12:52 PM
Gabe ---- if Tonys pic is the BJ then iI have agree with you cause of fruit shape. The blue fruit have a blunted flower end. The pics I took have a tapered tip just like Namwah.

You could of agreed with me :(

Abnshrek
11-08-2012, 01:04 PM
The wall looks blue. Hey! Did Tony spray paint those naners?

Hey Tony is that a special mix custom tint? lol :^)

PR-Giants
11-08-2012, 01:31 PM
Dan find a source for the blue ones that turn white or is it the white ones that turn blue?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4799 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4798&ppuser=947&sl=a)

venturabananas
11-08-2012, 02:02 PM
They are not true Blue Java / Ice Cream. They are Namwah (Pisang Awak). Here's why: they aren't blue enough, the pedicels on the fruit are too short, the fruit are not angular enough, and the pistils are retained on the fruit. Any one of these traits alone might not be enough to confidently distinguish the two plants, but together they make a clear case.

mm4birds
11-08-2012, 02:11 PM
Another false lead to the elusive TRUE Blue Java Ice Cream. If anybody has it, maybe we could have it TC'd by Agristats?

sunfish
11-08-2012, 02:39 PM
Hey Tony is that a special mix custom tint? lol :^)

Yes it is.Martha Stewart,Java Blue

bananimal
11-08-2012, 02:54 PM
You could of agreed with me :(

Hey --- aren't you always saying next to a pic "here is my blah blah that was sold as a blah blah but it's really a blah blah blah. I am the bananimal and I endorse this statement

sunfish
11-08-2012, 03:02 PM
Hey --- aren't you always saying nex to a pic "here is my blah blah that was sold as a blah blah but it's really a blah blah blah. I am the bananimal and I endorse this statement

Not always

bananimal
11-08-2012, 03:04 PM
They are not true Blue Java / Ice Cream. They are Namwah (Pisang Awak). Here's why: they aren't blue enough, the pedicels on the fruit are too short, the fruit are not angular enough, and the pistils are retained on the fruit. Any one of these traits alone might not be enough to confidently distinguish the two plants, but together they make a clear case.

Thanks Mark ---- that's what i needed to hear.
So I'm out a Pisang Klotek sucker and only have 4 cucamunga banana pups to show for it.

For sale: 4 nice, freshly dug cucamunga banana pups to a nice home. Pedigree unknown. None nutered or vaccinated. Answer also to blah blah blah.

robguz24
11-08-2012, 03:28 PM
Yeah Mark nailed it. Ice Cream are blue and sunfish's picture is a good example of it. It's the 2nd most common banana in my yard and I've got 3 fruiting right now and another I harvested earlier in the week. I kind of have to force myself to eat them. Will be much more excited about my first namwahs fruiting. Nice bunches ya got, enjoy 'em!

harveyc
11-08-2012, 06:33 PM
Yeah Mark nailed it. Ice Cream are blue and sunfish's picture is a good example of it. It's the 2nd most common banana in my yard and I've got 3 fruiting right now and another I harvested earlier in the week. I kind of have to force myself to eat them. Will be much more excited about my first namwahs fruiting. Nice bunches ya got, enjoy 'em!

:pics:

:) Come on, show us some pics, please! At least you aren't teasing us by saying that they're really great tasting. On the other hand, I've got some Namway almost ready to pick. :) Photos shown previously. I think both my "Mystery Busy Bee Banana" and my Belle (from Jon) are Namwah. At least I can be quite certain that the Pray Hands I got from Jon are really Praying Hands.

bananimal
11-08-2012, 08:26 PM
Ok, just caught it. I never said "I might need glasses". That was earlier on another post , eh!?:2738:

robguz24
11-09-2012, 03:59 AM
:pics:

:) Come on, show us some pics, please! At least you aren't teasing us by saying that they're really great tasting. On the other hand, I've got some Namway almost ready to pick. :) Photos shown previously. I think both my "Mystery Busy Bee Banana" and my Belle (from Jon) are Namwah. At least I can be quite certain that the Pray Hands I got from Jon are really Praying Hands.

Sorry, I felt like it would be crossposting. I have my latest in the what is harvested and flowering threads, and also my photos. Lots of Ice Creams lately! As I've said before they make great soft serve ice cream if frozen when ripe, then blended with a little soy or coconut milk. No sweetener needed.

Dalmatiansoap
11-09-2012, 05:44 AM
Thanks Mark ---- that's what i needed to hear.
So I'm out a Pisang Klotek sucker and only have 4 cucamunga banana pups to show for it.

For sale: 4 nice, freshly dug cucamunga banana pups to a nice home. Pedigree unknown. None nutered or vaccinated. Answer also to blah blah blah.

:ha::ha::ha:
:nanadrink:
can I pay with moneygram?

trebor
11-09-2012, 03:15 PM
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/hgils/blu.jpg

harveyc
11-09-2012, 04:09 PM
Nice touch with the banana "Bud" :)

bananimal
11-09-2012, 05:14 PM
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/hgils/blu.jpg

That's great -- just great!

Thanks Trebor.

pushak513
11-09-2012, 05:56 PM
:ha: quality photoshop

ron_mcb
11-09-2012, 10:29 PM
This may sound crazy but the real truth is youre not out of anything with your trade.. Lets say theres an unfortunate chain of events that kill all of your p.k. wouldn't you feel at ease knowing you could just ask your buddy for a replacement? Happened to me with a varigated banana. Glad I decided to share. I would recommend sharing a plant thats you feel that is hard to come by with another nearby plant enthusiast.. As for the pups.. Put them up for sale.

bananimal
11-10-2012, 01:20 AM
This may sound crazy but the real truth is youre not out of anything with your trade.. Lets say theres an unfortunate chain of events that kill all of your p.k. wouldn't you feel at ease knowing you could just ask your buddy for a replacement? Happened to me with a varigated banana. Glad I decided to share. I would recommend sharing a plant thats you feel that is hard to come by with another nearby plant enthusiast.. As for the pups.. Put them up for sale.

Right on both counts. Three people close by have the PK now. And the 4 unknowns go up for auction at my club. The consensus here is they are Namwah. That's what the labels will say.