View Full Version : Should I chop it? Could this be sucrier/pisang mas
amantedelenguaje
10-11-2012, 04:55 PM
I brought my oldest banana inside for the winter. As you can tell by the pictures, she's hitting the ceiling. This summer I whacked her down substantially, and she grew back to the same height. Should I chop it down again to control the height? I can lower the banana, but I cannot raise my ceiling. This banana is 2-years-old, and I am afraid I'll chop off the flower bud in the pseudostem. If you all feel she's no where near flowering, then I am going to cut her down some.
Additionally, I was under the impression that this is a Dwarf Cavendish banana. The more I think about it, I kind of wonder if it is a Sucrier/Pisang Mas banana. What do you guys think?
The banana October 11, 2012http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Tl2KTgAnu0E/UHc5r1wkYdI/AAAAAAAAB-Q/HUg562Qwj8U/s320/001%2B%2528600x800%2529.jpg
The banana June 3, 2012http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WV7KYVsNf1g/T8uL2sWdi2I/AAAAAAAABZI/1OqCJmdmgqI/s320/011%2B%2528600x800%2529.jpg
The banana June 17, 2012http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q5YNLH-ZYjM/T933xQ3PNNI/AAAAAAAABdk/CGX986opWD0/s320/001%2B%2528640x480%2529.jpg
amantedelenguaje
10-11-2012, 05:09 PM
Testing, 123
pitangadiego
10-12-2012, 02:41 PM
The banana is fine. The problem is with your floor or your ceiling or both.
GreenFin
10-12-2012, 08:47 PM
You might be able to get away with tilting it over and growing it at an angle aimed at the sunny window. Tilting/leaning the plant over about 2/3 of the way down to the floor will make it a lot lower; aiming it at the sunny window will get it to grow towards the window in a straight fashion so that you don't get any weird bends.
It would be challenging but possible. So either fun or a hassle, depending on how you look at it ;)
robguz24
10-12-2012, 09:04 PM
Please post full size pics. I can't really tell from these. The pstem on the last pic looks a bit like my sucriers, but it seems to be the same plant on the top pic and the pstem looks completely different.
venturabananas
10-13-2012, 01:12 AM
No, not Pisang Mas (Sucrier). The color is wrong (would be light yellow-green with brown blotches), the p-stem is too thick, the petioles are too short, etc. It is dwarf Cav.
PR-Giants
10-13-2012, 08:01 AM
You might be able to get away with tilting it over and growing it at an angle aimed at the sunny window. Tilting/leaning the plant over about 2/3 of the way down to the floor will make it a lot lower; aiming it at the sunny window will get it to grow towards the window in a straight fashion so that you don't get any weird bends.
It would be challenging but possible. So either fun or a hassle, depending on how you look at it ;)
I don't believe Greenfin is writing from experience because the likelihood of success is probably zero, but I have never tested a 30 degree angle.
A 30 degree may be successful after flowering, but again I have never tested this.
These are the things I've tested regarding pseudostem angles.
All pseudostems tested were ARH between large and very large in size.
Pseudostem can be successfully lowered to a 45 degree after flowering and the fruit will fill as normal.
Pseudostems lowered to 45 -50 degrees will eventually stop pushing new leaves and the center of the pseudostem will start to rot at about 1/3 the way down.
Pseudostems lowered to 55 - 60 degrees will grow a few more leaves but will also eventually stop pushing new leaves and the center of the pseudostem will start to rot at about 1/3 the way down.
In none of the cases, was the pseudostem able to split to allow a passage for new growth.
This is a photo of a pseudostem lowered to a 45 degree angle 7 days after flowering.
Harvest Date Jun 2-12 - 1 hand - 12 fruit - 22.2 lbs - avg fruit wt. 29.6 oz.
Photo Date Mar 23-12
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50444&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50444&ppuser=12081)
Abnshrek
10-13-2012, 10:03 AM
Certainly can be a DC w/ those fat leaves. I tilting a DC can't hurt much, you'll always have pups. :^)
I have had two potted bananas which were layed over erupt from the side of the pstem. These were Hua Moa and D Namwah.
I sold one but will try to get a pic of the other.
I do not recomend this with a thick pstem and I agree that plant is something cavendish, but maybe not dwarf.
Plants which are not ready to flower have a taper, with the part closest to the soil having the largest diameter.
When the flower forms there will be a increase in diameter and taper at the pstem base and probably some distortion of outer petioles on pstem.
The part at the soil will remain largest pstem diameter.
When the flower moves up the part at the soil will shrink slightly and will no longer be the largest diameter but will taper down slightly before meeting the soil.
repost the first pic much larger, or a large pic of the bottom foot and we can help more
venturabananas
10-13-2012, 10:51 AM
I agree that plant is something cavendish, but maybe not dwarf.
It's a dwarf. The ratio of petiole length to blade length is one of the main things that defines dwarfism in bananas. This plant has very short petioles relative to the length of the blade.
It's a dwarf. The ratio of petiole length to blade length is one of the main things that defines dwarfism in bananas. This plant has very short petioles relative to the length of the blade.
by blade do you mean leaf?
DELEEETED LOL
blew up the pics and now I agree DC is a likely candidate.
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