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david.
09-26-2012, 07:57 AM
This is one of two ice cream sources i have This was brought back from houston 2 years ago. The other one from a local nursery has not fruited for me yet.
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/71D83AEC-41A3-422D-9C07-1BE69DF17017-743-000000216B4ACC47.jpg

david.
09-26-2012, 11:27 AM
Question is "Is this the real deal"? This plant varies from the other. Haven't sold pups off of this mat for that reason.

caliboy1994
09-26-2012, 11:51 AM
It's sort of hard to tell, but based on the pink coloration it looks more like a Namwah.

Abnshrek
09-26-2012, 01:15 PM
Question is "Is this the real deal"? This plant varies from the other. Haven't sold pups off of this mat for that reason.

Either way congrats. :^)

david.
09-26-2012, 04:43 PM
I figured that red coloring threw it off. I'll take more pics as it emerges.
Is it dwarf ? It is around 8 feet up to the flower.

caliboy1994
09-26-2012, 07:21 PM
We'd have to see the entire plant to know for sure.

david.
10-02-2012, 05:12 PM
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/0BB4A369-9EF4-444C-8E76-7F1C838AB711-2498-000000AD3547F1AE.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/ED83D44B-049B-4559-9BB9-3643A48A9141-2498-000000AD3B5EA6A9.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/0BB4A369-9EF4-444C-8E76-7F1C838AB711-2498-000000AD3547F1AE.jpg

caliboy1994
10-03-2012, 12:36 AM
It doesn't look like a dwarf, it's too slender. It just might be shorter due to your growing conditions.

david.
10-03-2012, 07:15 AM
It doesn't look like a dwarf, it's too slender. It just might be shorter due to your growing conditions.
What do you mean by my growing condition?
Is that good or bad ?

sunfish
10-03-2012, 07:42 AM
What do you mean by my growing condition?
Is that good or bad ?

How tall is it ? The not Ice Cream(NAMWAH) blooms at 9' t0 10'.I am pretty sure that's what yours is.

david.
10-03-2012, 07:58 AM
How tall is it ? The not Ice Cream(NAMWAH) blooms at 9' t0 10'.I am pretty sure that's what yours is.

Around 8 feet up to the bloom

venturabananas
10-03-2012, 10:46 AM
The not Ice Cream(NAMWAH) blooms at 9' t0 10'.I am pretty sure that's what yours is.

Hah, maybe yours does! :ha: My first one to bloom did so at 12'. It's a monster with 12 female hands so far. It's pups are already over 10'. My plant is definitely a Pisang Awak (Namwah) that was definitely sold as "Ice Cream".

venturabananas
10-03-2012, 10:51 AM
What do you mean by my growing condition?
Is that good or bad ?

Could be good or bad. Mature plant height in bananas can be hugely variable depending on conditions. They can be on the short side because conditions are good, e.g., lots of full sun (e.g., Sunfish's yard), or because conditions are bad, e.g., too few nutrients and too little water. They can get really tall if shaded, because they are "reaching for the sun." The easiest way to decide whether the conditions are good or bad is look at fruit production. A short or tall plant that is making big bunches of big, fat fruit is happy.

venturabananas
10-03-2012, 10:52 AM
It doesn't look like a dwarf, it's too slender.

Yep, and the petioles are too long for it to be a dwarf.

sunfish
10-03-2012, 11:00 AM
It doesn't look like a dwarf, it's too slender. It just might be shorter due to your growing conditions.

Shorter than what ? :)

david.
10-10-2012, 12:21 PM
Update
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/A9C3DA15-3EAB-46FE-9F6D-FDB814C1FE89-3123-00000256EC861E15.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/CA6F5D2C-57D2-4C73-85FA-EE6F246F5083-3123-00000256F08EA612.jpg

venturabananas
10-10-2012, 12:30 PM
Based on those new photos, it's not the real Ice Cream or "fake Ice Cream" (Namwah). Not sure what it is.

david.
10-10-2012, 01:46 PM
Well the search continues on this variety. Need different angle or pics for I'd ?

venturabananas
10-10-2012, 05:11 PM
Need different angle or pics for I'd ?

Pictures of the leaf petiole would help, but won't be definitive. Keep taking photos of this bud as it develops and the fruit mature. Get good close ups of the male flowers when they start forming. The finger shape, orientation, and color of the newly forming bananas is wrong for both Ice Cream and Namwah. The female flower color is oddly pale for a plant that looks like it has closed petioles. In short, just keep providing pictures as the bunch matures. Don't cut off the male bud on the bunch.

david.
10-16-2012, 04:50 PM
Update
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/94475BF3-6372-4F60-92EB-7AD50BE7D1B4-1416-0000009A6075AA3A.jpg

david.
10-16-2012, 04:51 PM
Is this plant done with fruiting.

caliboy1994
10-16-2012, 06:16 PM
The fruit need time to fill in and mature. After that, you can harvest them.

sunfish
10-16-2012, 06:38 PM
Update
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/94475BF3-6372-4F60-92EB-7AD50BE7D1B4-1416-0000009A6075AA3A.jpg

Yes those are male flowers

david.
10-16-2012, 07:19 PM
I kinda thought on that one. Thanks tony!!
Any idea on I'd?

sunfish
10-16-2012, 07:34 PM
I kinda thought on that one. Thanks tony!!
Any idea on I'd?

You need Venturabananas for ID. I can't tell one from another

david.
10-25-2012, 07:25 PM
Update
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/DCADC463-FA03-4E10-BF02-DD5425D755D8-492-00000016131C3368.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/B2344920-622E-4D4A-86DE-2E68351FAF34-492-000000160F2F0F63.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Wangsmurf/D7C44CE2-263B-4020-B50A-09DF7D77A2AD-492-0000001608D81EAA.jpg

venturabananas
10-26-2012, 12:48 PM
I still don't know what it is. But I am certain it is not the real Blue Java / Ice Cream or the fake Ice Cream (Pisang Awak / Namwah). It looks like it has an AAB genome. Both the real and fake Ice Cream have ABB genomes. Their flowers have a lot of red/purple in them, which your plant doesn't have.

It looks most like Manzano to me, both in the look of the plant, petiole canal characteristics, the shape of the bud, the flower color, and the wide spacing of hands, but typically Manzano fingers retain the pistils (the matchstick-like things on the tips of the bananas), which have fallen off your fruit. So, I'm not sure what it is. If it is Manzano, you will know when it is ripe: try to eat one that still has any green on it and it will be chalky and astringent.