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12ka4
09-09-2012, 06:14 AM
HI...
NOTE : AGE AND VARIETY OF THIS PANT ?????

Can anyone identify the age of this banana plant ( and if possible which variety )on 15 july i planted this in my lawn and it had 5 leaves... now 12 more have grown since then..and 2 suckers also have come up yesterday.......you can see them very small at the bottom. Pls. help me in finding the age of this plant...


Thanks

sunfish
09-09-2012, 08:13 AM
Pretty sure there is no way to tell the age of a banana plant

LilRaverBoi
09-09-2012, 02:29 PM
Yeah, no way to really tell the age of the plant. I would guess maybe 6-8 months? But that could be way off....depends on how fast things grow in your area and what type it is. Based on the stockiness, it might be a dwarf variety....but that's nothing more than a guess. See what the experts think.

Abnshrek
09-09-2012, 05:53 PM
If its an Orinoco its probably 4.5 months old..

cincinnana
09-10-2012, 07:16 PM
Where did you buy the plant ?
Did the pot that it came in have any identifying markings ...nursery name perhaps?
You could cut it half and count the growth rings:) Just kidding!!!!!!!

chipboy44
09-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Bope it is just too impossiblem there are too many variables in this equation. The bottom line here is there are 45 leaves from sucker to cone. So many plants grow are different rates because of their environment and treatment. It is jut oo hard to tell. I have had an orinoco fruit in 12 months and months then because of a winter take an xtra 6-8 months and from the same patch of trees. As far as telling the kind of banana it is also to hard. There are so little distinguishing marks to tell different banana plants apart from others. Even if you had already produced so many leaves and you hit a cold winter that slows everything down then that ruins your ETA for mature plants. Once the night temperatures reach 50°F the plant stops growing. So if you go thru weeks or a month of low temsp your trees will just sit there and look back at you waiting. It is just too hard and impossible to tell.
Salute'
rick

12ka4
09-11-2012, 02:44 AM
hi
Thanks for all the replies...its not Orinoco ..

While doing search on finding the age of banana plant i came across a formula....

Age = pseudostem circumference / 9

my plants pseudostem circumference is 37 cm...hence age of the plant comes out to be 4 months + few days..
I dont know how far its true...but yes uptill the age of 6 months or till the diameter is 55 cm it seems to be accurate...after age 6 months just add 5cm per month...

i request members here to pls. verify this theory.....i am not able to get back the pdf file in which i read it ..as soon as i relocate the file will upload the same for reference..

Thanks

PR-Giants
09-11-2012, 04:46 AM
hi
Thanks for all the replies...its not Orinoco ..

While doing search on finding the age of banana plant i came across a formula....

Age = pseudostem diameter / 9

my plants pseudostem diameter is 37 cm...hence age of the plant comes out to be 4 months + few days..
I dont know how far its true...but yes uptill the age of 6 months or till the diameter is 55 cm it seems to be accurate...after age 6 months just add 5cm per month...

i request members here to pls. verify this theory.....i am not able to get back the pdf file in which i read it ..as soon as i relocate the file will upload the same for reference..

Thanks

Bananas grow fast, but not that fast.

A 6 month old pseudostem is not the same diameter as a 55 gallon drum.

A Red does not have a 5 foot diameter pseudostem at harvest.

At the most you can determine the minimum age of a banana by it's size & variety, but not it's maximum age.

The plant in the photo does not appear to have a 14.5 inch pseudostem.

Measure the circumference and divide by Pi.

12ka4
09-11-2012, 07:21 AM
Mr. PR GIANTS....

PLS. read between the lines ......first.

"I HAVE NEVER USED INCHES IN MY LAST STATEMENT ..WHICH YOU HAVE MENTIONED .."

just correcting...

pseudostem diameter to pseudostem circumference ...

Thanks

PR-Giants
09-11-2012, 08:28 AM
Mr. PR GIANTS....

PLS. read between the lines ......first.

"I HAVE NEVER USED INCHES IN MY LAST STATEMENT ..WHICH YOU HAVE MENTIONED .."

just correcting...

pseudostem diameter to pseudostem circumference ...

Thanks

You wrote a 37 cm diameter, which is equal to a 14.5 inch diameter.

Inches - centemeters - diameter - circumference - it can all get a bit confusing.

Jose263
09-11-2012, 09:00 AM
Bananas grow fast, but not that fast.

A 6 month old pseudostem is not the same diameter as a 55 gallon drum.

A Red does not have a 5 foot diameter pseudostem at harvest.

At the most you can determine the minimum age of a banana by it's size & variety, but not it's maximum age.

The plant in the photo does not appear to have a 14.5 inch pseudostem.

Measure the circumference and divide by Pi.

My nanas must be too dumb to count -:ha:
I have pstems same age of varying heights and circumference - I thought you could count on pstems of the same cv blooming at same height - but my nanas have blown that theory in my yard at least... Some say to expect a bloom after approx 30 leaves
Your plant looks like an adolescent - what is the name if not an orinoco :drum:

Abnshrek
09-11-2012, 10:07 AM
My nanas must be too dumb to count -:ha:
what is the name if not an orinoco? :drum:

My banana's can't count either.. So they must have the same disorder of sorts since they can't cypher much.. lol

Yeah, come off the name already.. Let me find out we have another mysterious Banana.. :^)

12ka4
09-11-2012, 11:04 AM
You wrote a 37 cm diameter, which is equal to a 14.5 inch diameter.

Inches - centemeters - diameter - circumference - it can all get a bit confusing.

Ya sometimes it does get bit confusing i do agree with you...

earlier you said it dosnt look like its 14.5 inches..i will try to get a pic of it tomorrow with measuring tape for you....so that you can see it....

12ka4
09-11-2012, 11:50 AM
My nanas must be too dumb to count -:ha:
I have pstems same age of varying heights and circumference - I thought you could count on pstems of the same cv blooming at same height - but my nanas have blown that theory in my yard at least... Some say to expect a bloom after approx 30 leaves
Your plant looks like an adolescent - what is the name if not an orinoco :drum:

Dont know the name of the plant . i got it from a freind as a sucker with 5 leaves.. and planted it around 2 months back..

Jose263
09-11-2012, 03:32 PM
Dont know the name of the plant . i got it from a freind as a sucker with 5 leaves.. and planted it around 2 months back..

It looks very healthy :goteam:- I kind of like the surprise and rush when i see a new flag - doesn't take much to excite me these days. :0517: If you are close by your friend maybe you can get info / pics on the mother plant - it is extremely difficult to id a nana without good close ups - pictures of a new bloom and fruit are mostly what the experts want to see.
Happy growing :woohoonaner:
Jose

12ka4
09-11-2012, 11:29 PM
It looks very healthy :goteam:- I kind of like the surprise and rush when i see a new flag - doesn't take much to excite me these days. :0517: If you are close by your friend maybe you can get info / pics on the mother plant - it is extremely difficult to id a nana without good close ups - pictures of a new bloom and fruit are mostly what the experts want to see.
Happy growing :woohoonaner:
Jose

Ok..i will try to get the pic of the the mother plant .....and post it here...

venturabananas
09-12-2012, 11:17 AM
While doing search on finding the age of banana plant i came across a formula....

Age = pseudostem circumference / 9

i request members here to pls. verify this theory

There is no way that formula applies to all bananas. It might work for one variety grown in one place, with a certain watering and fert regime, during one season, but you cannot apply it generally to any banana grown anywhere under any conditions.

Why does the age matter to you? If you want to know when to expect a bloom, the total number of leaves produced is a better predictor across conditions. Of course, that varies from variety to variety.

G.W.
09-15-2012, 03:37 AM
the formula cannot apply without extensive modification to account for lumens, ferts, rainfall, breed.... ect.....

I have a Mahoi I bought in a 3 gal this june and current diameter is 10 inches
I have a Red Iholena tissue culture I bought in March and it's made 2 leaves with the aprox diameter of my thumb.

They are in nearly identical conditions, being less than 6 feet apart in the same ground, same water, same ferts, same same same.

I have a Misi Luki which is 2.5 years old with 8 inch diameter. Six feet further away.

In the west grove I have Kandarian purchased April or May as 5 foot pups and they are 12-14 inch diameter.