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bananaT
09-05-2012, 12:18 AM
I dug up my large Orinoco corm that fruited for me.
Ive decided I want many more Orinocos. Usually I would just separate a sucker, and plant it out. Its too slow though.
The tissue culture kits are a bit pricey as well, and the plants would need more care than Id care to give them.
Back to my corm. She was a pain to get out, 20 something pounds with roots as tough as any trees.
I'm just wondering if anyone here has ever cut up a corm, to get sprouts from it, that had already flowered?
You can see in the picture that I got quite a few pieces from it. I plan on putting it out tomorrow, and see what happens.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50405&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50405&ppuser=11500)
Abnshrek
09-05-2012, 03:39 AM
So how many orinoco's do you have already that enough is not enough? :^)
So how many orinoco's do you have already that enough is not enough? :^)
Maybe he's from the Orinoco valley and trying to rep?
I tried to kill a Manzano like this the other day. Now I have to kill 8 !!
Yo T ..... why don't you come see me and get a better corm to chop up?
I'm near Saint Cloud.
bananaT
09-05-2012, 08:51 AM
I have 3 mats, all of which have bunches right now.:woohoonaner:
With 5 or so individual suckers planted out.
I really liked the Orinoco fruit, so I plan to have around 30 mats eventually.
There's alot of hispanic, and other neighborhoods around me too that cook them green.
I think I could sell them quite well in my area.
bananaT
09-05-2012, 08:57 AM
Maybe he's from the Orinoco valley and trying to rep?
I tried to kill a Manzano like this the other day. Now I have to kill 8 !!
Yo T ..... why don't you come see me and get a better corm to chop up?
I'm near Saint Cloud.
Good thing you can really never have to many bananas!
I thought my corm looked very pretty, a better one, unlikely...:0519:
Abnshrek
09-05-2012, 09:05 AM
I have 3 mats, all of which have bunches right now.:woohoonaner: With 5 or so individual suckers planted out.
I really liked the Orinoco fruit, so I plan to have around 30 mats eventually.
There's alot of hispanic, and other neighborhoods around me too that cook them green. I think I could sell them quite well in my area.
Well why don't you grow an FHia 03, its a orinoco sport w/ more output. :^)
If there are eyes on the bits they should grow, if not they wont.
Olafhenny
09-05-2012, 04:45 PM
I don't have a whole lot of experience with chopped up corms. The few exposed corms,
I have seen all had nodes, which would eventually produce pups. Separated pups grow from
pieces of corm, although these pieces already have sprouts and may or may not have roots.
Here is, what I think would be an interesting little experiment:
- Inspect your pieces for nodes.
- Plant them all into a small area, may be 8'' apart or a foot, if space is not a problem
- But keep those with nodes separated from those without.
- Wait two or there months and see what happens
A 5' by 5' area gives you room for 25 specimens.
- If all grow, you have as many Orinocos as you now have pieces.
- If only the ones with nodes grow you have accordingly less
- In both above cases you have some plants and a lot of experience to share with us
- If none of them grow, you have lost the use of 2 to 3 square yards of yard space for 2 or
3 months and a bit of effort. - Not much of a gamble, if you consider the potential pay-off.
Good luck!
Olaf
Worm_Farmer
09-05-2012, 05:34 PM
I think most of them will grow. I have started plants off just a piece of corm. It is to my knowledge that you only need a small piece of the mother corm to start a new plant. Give it a try, what is there to loose? You know that you will at least gain some plants. I'd start them off in pots just so I can easily monitor their root growth.
PR-Giants
09-05-2012, 06:10 PM
I think it should work fine, just about anything will work.
When I did it, I made vertical cuts.I kept splitting it in half until I had 64 equal pieces. Each piece yielded 10 to 20 very small plants. By making long strips it was easier to separate the plants as they began to root.
Planting large pups is much easier.
Jose263
09-05-2012, 06:45 PM
Well why don't you grow an FHia 03, its a orinoco sport w/ more output. :^)
Michael - Can you tell us more about FHIA#3 - I hope to sample orinico from my patch this Fall -have 3 bunches maturing but the fruiting plants are 14' high and not easy to winterize -I would like a shorter nana - wiki says#3 is Goldfinger-orinico hybrid. Is that what 'Sport' means?
I also have 5' Goldfinger pups in the ground - don't think GF will grow as tall as orinoco -
how tall does #3 grow? is it as cold hardy as orinoco? :2738:
and do you know where can a # 3 pup be found?
Thanks
Jose
bananaT
09-13-2012, 11:50 PM
Well why don't you grow an FHia 03, its a orinoco sport w/ more output. :^)
I'm just working with what I have. I know that my Orinocos taste pretty damn good too. Though maybe that's just because anything taste better than the crap at the supermarkets!
One of my Orinoco stalks planted as a sucker last year just spit out 9 hands. If they get any of the size my first bunch was, Id say that's pretty good output.
I reckon the bunches will just get bigger as the mat forms, from what I gather.
I will keep things updated everyone. See how the corm pieces grow.
We just had 5 days of heavy rain here, my back field was 6 inches of water.
Hopefully they didn't rot in the ground.
Abnshrek
09-14-2012, 12:05 AM
I'm just working with what I have. I know that my Orinocos taste pretty damn good too. Though maybe that's just because anything taste better than the crap at the supermarkets!
One of my Orinoco stalks planted as a sucker last year just spit out 9 hands. If they get any of the size my first bunch was, Id say that's pretty good output. I reckon the bunches will just get bigger as the mat forms, from what I gather.
I will keep things updated everyone. See how the corm pieces grow.
We just had 5 days of heavy rain here, my back field was 6 inches of water.
Hopefully they didn't rot in the ground.
I just figured more might be better in your case, but with weather like your I'd grow the hell out of them too I suppose. Hope your corms workout.. :^)
2woodensticks
09-14-2012, 07:52 PM
what i do is to scrap all roots and old skin off..let sit out in dark cool place.. couple of weeks...then new skin is little harder..then i cut into pieces..looking for eyes and keeping them in the middle of piece..would rather have few stronger than a bunch weaker..
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=fhia%201%20pdf&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fhia.org.hn%2Fdowloads%2Finfo_hibridos%2Ffh ia03.pdf&ei=9y5UULWwNYis8QSEs4CgDQ&usg=AFQjCNF7m6L9l7rnoJvQWq06YVThjuwd7w
straight from the horse's mouth
propogating orioco makes me think of a cockroach breeding program
unfortunately I don't have great sources for #3 other than Going Bananas
I have one I got from Chris in Tampa but it is unconfirmed to be true #3, as in no flowers yet.
Jose263
09-15-2012, 10:10 AM
G.W. Thanks - great link on the #3 - is there an index page for all the hybrids also the SH varieties ????
I'm in 8b and have orinocos maturing - waiting for a taste - The pad produces pups like rabbits. no help needed from me :ha: But the bunches are kind of sparse - #3 appears to make lots more nanas
Also planted Goldfinger pups this summer courtesy of Hydroid - looking forward to some GF fruit next year.
I would like to try #3 - appears to have best qualities of the parents..
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