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john_ny
08-30-2012, 12:34 PM
I had some plants growing in the cellar, under lights, over the winter. One item was a 72 cell tray of Musella lasiocarpa TCs. They got too dry, and turned brown. Then I got some water on them, and they came back. I missed a couple of waterings, and they turned brown again. In the spring, I put the tray outside, and they came back a second time. They are now transplanted to 1 gallon pots, and growing well.

Abnshrek
08-30-2012, 12:49 PM
They must be part Orinoco.. lol :^)

sandy0225
11-27-2012, 09:16 AM
I'm good at banana torture too. I had a bordelon corm that I dug up real late in the fall. I was just going to let it freeze because I have plenty of bordelons, but the more times I walked by there, I got to feeling sorry for it! I stuffed it in a potting soil bag to carry it to the greenhouse because I was going to pot it up in there because it was like 25 degrees outside. Then I got a phone call and had to leave the house suddenly to pick up greenhouse supplies that came in. I didn't have time to pot it. Well, it was cold outside, and I didn't want to put it in the house, and the garage (heated) was locked, so I threw it under the bench in the greenhouse that was heated, and left. thought I'd pot it up later that day or tomorrow. Totally forgot about it...saw the bag under the bench several times and it still didn't make any connection in the lil brain of mine, because I save the used potting bags to use as trunk liners for customers cars in the spring, and I just thought that's what it was after a day or two.... Sat some pots in front of it...well spring came and that darned thing grew, poked it's way out of the bag, grew through 2x2" square mesh bench top, and put out some leaves. So I noticed it then, and cut the top off so I could get it out and potted it up. don't even know which one it is now, or if I sold it but it was a bordelon.

pushak513
12-01-2012, 04:39 AM
mine has about 3ft of P stem its been outside with temps down to 19 so far and keeps trying to put out a leaf. I keep cutting it off and putting the bag back over it but it just wont stop. they are pretty tough

cincinnana
12-22-2017, 10:49 AM
Rolling out another older great thread.

I picked up a few last spring and they were slow growers .
I have them in the basement as an understory plant.

They have tolerated 90 days on dim light with a few lost leaves

They also seem to be somewhat prolific filling the containers with offshoots.

I have not inspected the plants yet to see where I might separate them.
They have a nice unique shape too.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4274/34969040045_ee0e825de9.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Vh6tix)
Lasiocarpa (https://flic.kr/p/Vh6tix) by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr

subsonicdrone
12-23-2017, 10:49 AM
my plant has never had any pups
i was under the impression that you had to wound the plant severely cutting the centre to initiate pupping
i planned to just let mine flower and not go for pups

mine just died back like it does each winter season
one leaf in the centre is still green the rest are dying back

hopefully i get a flower next year ..
pstem height is over a foot now (and just as wide)

you are lucky to have all those pups
maybe try overwintering one next year in the same way you overwinter the basjoo

Tytaylor77
12-25-2017, 01:39 PM
They pup like crazy for me!!! I bet i have 20+ pups and 3 generations of pups on mine. And it’s not even a year old!! Separating them is another story! They are so hard to remove, have little corms, and no roots! They will grow from a speck of corm though!

Coolest thing about them is they will be your only plant with all intact leaves! Wind doesn’t tear their leaves!

cincinnana
12-26-2017, 11:47 AM
my plant has never had any pups
i was under the impression that you had to wound the plant severely cutting the centre to initiate pupping
i planned to just let mine flower and not go for pups

mine just died back like it does each winter season
one leaf in the centre is still green the rest are dying back

hopefully i get a flower next year ..
pstem height is over a foot now (and just as wide)

you are lucky to have all those pups
maybe try overwintering one next year in the same way you overwinter the basjoo

I cannot wait till mine get bigger and thick like yours.
I do not know how old the parent(in the center if pot) is....my guess 2-3 years.

I will try to overwinter a few next year next to my Basjoos like you suggested.

.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4593/38585208184_24395df78c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21MDh75)
Laso pups (https://flic.kr/p/21MDh75)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr

cincinnana
12-26-2017, 11:51 AM
They pup like crazy for me!!! I bet i have 20+ pups and 3 generations of pups on mine. And it’s not even a year old!! Separating them is another story! They are so hard to remove, have little corms, and no roots! They will grow from a speck of corm though!

Coolest thing about them is they will be your only plant with all intact leaves! Wind doesn’t tear their leaves!

After further looking to seperate from main plant yesterday......lol..:ha:

subsonicdrone
01-10-2018, 01:53 PM
here is what mine looks like right now
IMG_5869_zps7dd1ifhb.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_5869_zps7dd1ifhb.jpg.html)

IMG_5873_zps37ln871x.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_5873_zps37ln871x.jpg.html)

IMG_5896_zpseh9se1cy.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_5896_zpseh9se1cy.jpg.html)

IMG_5898_zpsfaxl2svv.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_5898_zpsfaxl2svv.jpg.html)

it has shrunk since its peak in the fall...

aruzinsky
01-11-2018, 01:46 PM
...
They also seem to be somewhat prolific filling the containers with offshoots.

...

I thought it was unusual for Ensetes to sucker. Can you show a photo of suckering? I have one Ensete lasiocarpum for 6 months without suckering. I need more plants to use as controls in my experiments. I have it in the greenhouse now and supplement the daylight with a 5 watt LED spotlight so that it receives light 24/7 but a photocell turns it off in bright sunlight.

Tytaylor77
01-12-2018, 03:11 AM
I thought it was unusual for Ensetes to sucker. Can you show a photo of suckering? I have one Ensete lasiocarpum for 6 months without suckering. I need more plants to use as controls in my experiments. I have it in the greenhouse now and supplement the daylight with a 5 watt LED spotlight so that it receives light 24/7 but a photocell turns it off in bright sunlight.

It is because it is not an Ensete! They are called:
Musella Lasiocarpa.
Same family: Musaceae.

They do pup and they pup pups as pups and their pups pup pups as pups! :woohoonaner: Super Puppers! I have seriously had 2” tall pups with 3-4 pups! I do fertilize heavilly though.

I love them. Very cool to watch them grow and they seem very very cold hardy. And just all around hardy! Sadly they are not edible! I hear their flowers can last for months!

aruzinsky
01-12-2018, 11:07 AM
It is because it is not an Ensete! They are called:
Musella Lasiocarpa.
Same family: Musaceae.

They do pup and they pup pups as pups and their pups pup pups as pups! :woohoonaner: Super Puppers! I have seriously had 2” tall pups with 3-4 pups! I do fertilize heavilly though.

I love them. Very cool to watch them grow and they seem very very cold hardy. And just all around hardy! Sadly they are not edible! I hear their flowers can last for months!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensete_lasiocarpum

In any event, mine hasn't suckered, yet.

subsonicdrone
01-12-2018, 11:27 AM
could the difference in pups be: tissue cultured plants vs seed propagated plants?

cincinnana
01-13-2018, 09:03 PM
I thought it was unusual for Ensetes to sucker. Can you show a photo of suckering? I have one Ensete lasiocarpum for 6 months without suckering. I need more plants to use as controls in my experiments. I have it in the greenhouse now and supplement the daylight with a 5 watt LED spotlight so that it receives light 24/7 but a photocell turns it off in bright sunlight.

Steve, Fellas.

Here is a pic.

I had watched this plant in a local retail greenhouse for a couple of years before I had purchased splits from it ( plants are from the flowering parent) for 15 bucks.
I have no idea where the original stock came from.

This is a larger pup from the original split from a 3+- gal to 3 x 3gal split.

I used a Soilless mix with an Espoma organic Tomato Tone kicker.....to start. I used the Espoma I think because I was splitting some mini funkia, so used what I had.

For me, I will start most of my plants off with an appropriate organic fertilizer and then transition to water solubles as time goes.........And then possibly 19-19-19- or similar.

My trio of containers have now been moved to a warmer CFL setup along with a few other plants.

As TY had said.....How do you separate these plants? lol

When small they are so tight around the main plant.:08:

I do know they are easier to separate when they are much larger.


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4758/38949645264_44fc56ed83.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22kR7y1)
musella lasiocarpa pups (https://flic.kr/p/22kR7y1)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr

aruzinsky
01-17-2018, 01:31 PM
My Ensete Lasiocarpum in greenhouse with supplementary 5 watt LED spotlight. The LED is off only during bright daylight. The plant gets light 24/7.
http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/EnseteLlasiocarpumAndLED1-17-18.jpg

Although difficult to see, each new leaf is slightly larger than the one that preceded it. Currently, this is my only banana plant that has made that progress. However, this Winter has been unusually sunny. I should add that the atmosphere is CO2 enriched from ventless natural gas heaters. Also, this was the only banana plant that had a bad mite infestation when I brought it inside from outdoors. I eradicated it with Avid and Bifenthrin. Every plant in the greenhouse was sprayed multiple times and it was a growth setback.
http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/EnseteLlasiocarpum1-17-18.jpg

cincinnana
01-20-2018, 08:04 PM
My Ensete Lasiocarpum in greenhouse with supplementary 5 watt LED spotlight. The LED is off only during bright daylight. The plant gets light 24/7.
http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/EnseteLlasiocarpumAndLED1-17-18.jpg

Although difficult to see, each new leaf is slightly larger than the one that preceded it. Currently, this is my only banana plant that has made that progress. However, this Winter has been unusually sunny. I should add that the atmosphere is CO2 enriched from ventless natural gas heaters. Also, this was the only banana plant that had a bad mite infestation when I brought it inside from outdoors. I eradicated it with Avid and Bifenthrin. Every plant in the greenhouse was sprayed multiple times and it was a growth setback.
http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/EnseteLlasiocarpum1-17-18.jpg


I am glad mine looks almost as good as yours .lol almost

cincinnana
01-20-2018, 08:08 PM
here is what mine looks like right now
IMG_5869_zps7dd1ifhb.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_5869_zps7dd1ifhb.jpg.html)

it has shrunk since its peak in the fall...

Your plant is a lot more mature than mine.

Awesome job growing it.

Me....I have a few years yet.:08:

subsonicdrone
01-20-2018, 09:06 PM
here it is, not last summer but the one before
last summer it did not grow quite as vigorous but still got almost as big
could be partly because the summer before it got re potted whereas this past summer it did not
but also two summers ago was a better year for the whole garden
IMG_0866_zpslhrtmghp.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_0866_zpslhrtmghp.jpg.html)

subsonicdrone
04-07-2018, 07:32 AM
IMG_7178_zpsxgiksnhu.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_7178_zpsxgiksnhu.jpg.html)
pic taken last weekend
base has shrivelled but the new growth is progressing

aruzinsky
04-10-2018, 10:34 AM
IMG_7178_zpsxgiksnhu.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_7178_zpsxgiksnhu.jpg.html)
pic taken last weekend
base has shrivelled but the new growth is progressing

I notice two things:

1. No suckers.
2. Compared to your first photo, almost all of the old leaves have died.

My plant is like yours in those respects. But, I know that my older leaves are dying sooner than they should. Does anybody know the cause?

As an experiment, I am thinking about spraying my plant with 250 ppm silver nitrate because it is an ethylene antagonist and ethylene promotes leaf abscission. See

http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/plantphysiol/58/3/268.full.pdf

Also, I have a small fortune in silver nitrate gathering dust in my basement that I haven't used in 45 years. Who else but me hoards that kind of stuff? Ha, ha, ha, the advantages of being me.

aruzinsky
04-10-2018, 02:07 PM
I notice two things:

1. No suckers.
2. Compared to your first photo, almost all of the old leaves have died.

My plant is like yours in those respects. But, I know that my older leaves are dying sooner than they should. Does anybody know the cause?

As an experiment, I am thinking about spraying my plant with 250 ppm silver nitrate because it is an ethylene antagonist and ethylene promotes leaf abscission. See

http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/plantphysiol/58/3/268.full.pdf

Also, I have a small fortune in silver nitrate gathering dust in my basement that I haven't used in 45 years. Who else but me hoards that kind of stuff? Ha, ha, ha, the advantages of being me.

Done!

http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/LasciocarpaBeforeSilverTreatment4-10-18.jpg

http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/SilverNitrateAndSprayer4-10-18.jpg

The grey color of the solution is worrisome. I will have to investigate.

aruzinsky
04-14-2018, 12:29 PM
Done!

http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/LasciocarpaBeforeSilverTreatment4-10-18.jpg

http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/SilverNitrateAndSprayer4-10-18.jpg

The grey color of the solution is worrisome. I will have to investigate.

The "worrisome" grey color was from a precipitate caused by a chemical reaction with impurities in my tap water which is from Lake Michigan. I replaced it with distilled water and resprayed today. Incidentally, as a surfactant, I used Triton X-100 because it is a stronger surfactant than Tween 20. Even so, it takes at least 250 ppm Triton X-100 to prevent beading on banana foliage.

BTW, silver nitrate is not my best choice for ethylene antagonists. I am only using it for convenience. If I could afford it, I would use aminoethoxyvinylglycine (AVG), the active ingredient in the commercial PGRs, ReTain and PinCor. See

https://cropenhancement.valentbiosciences.com/valent-biosciences-biorational-crop-enhancement/products/retain.

https://cropenhancement.valentbiosciences.com/valent-biosciences-biorational-crop-enhancement/products/pincor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmlcNTGI_Fo

Maybe, AVG can be used to increase the size of banana fruit.

subsonicdrone
05-27-2018, 07:17 PM
my banana plants were brought outside this weekend
i plan on re potting many of my plants but i started with the lasiocarpa
here is a before pic:
IMG_7972_zpsh7hslswn.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_7972_zpsh7hslswn.jpg.html)

during:
IMG_7978_zpsgiic5waa.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_7978_zpsgiic5waa.jpg.html)

after, with previous container beside it:
IMG_7985_zps6rlfjdbg.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_7985_zps6rlfjdbg.jpg.html)

it was in a 20 gal now in a 30 gal container:
IMG_7986_zpsqmho1ryy.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_7986_zpsqmho1ryy.jpg.html)

subsonicdrone
06-17-2018, 07:02 AM
mine is in a hurry to put out new leaves with the cigar of the next unfurling before the last had opened completely
IMG_8138_zpsviesfogr.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_8138_zpsviesfogr.jpg.html)
IMG_8142_zpslgc9avq1.jpg Photo by subsonicdrone | Photobucket (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/subsonicdrone/media/IMG_8142_zpslgc9avq1.jpg.html)

subsonicdrone
07-03-2018, 08:49 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63240&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63240)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63239&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63239)

first time posting to the gallery!
how is everyones musella lasiocarpa doing?
mine is on a roll!
likes the new container and warm weather up here
pretty good growth for 37 days after being brought outside

aruzinsky
07-06-2018, 01:05 PM
In 10" pot:
http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/EnseteLasiocarpum7-6-18.jpg

subsonicdrone
08-29-2018, 12:32 PM
i was going to wait until the plant had reached its absolute maximum sixe for this season and then post a pic...
but i couldnt wait
at one point a while back raccoons decided to climb all over it breaking some leaves and breaking the centre
took a little while for leaves to emerge properly but it got over that and has been doing great this season
looking forward to seeing everyone else's lasiocarpa pics!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63510&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63510)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63511&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63511)

cincinnana
09-02-2018, 06:47 AM
The plant that I had picked up was mislabeled and is not a Lasi.

It is growing and looks nice but ain't what they said it was.

I need to get it to bloom to see what it is.
I think it is some sort of lilly.
.https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1844/43696277134_4a361a2e76_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29zhQQw)
Not a lasi (https://flic.kr/p/29zhQQw) by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr

subsonicdrone
09-02-2018, 10:29 AM
after doing a little reading today i am starting to doubt whether i have a lasiocarpa either!
this describes the stem as being %30 of the plant height
mine definitely does not fit that description
Musella splendida response (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~drc/musella_splendida_response.htm)

cincinnana
09-03-2018, 09:02 AM
after doing a little reading today i am starting to doubt whether i have a lasiocarpa either!
this describes the stem as being %30 of the plant height
mine definitely does not fit that description
Musella splendida response (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~drc/musella_splendida_response.htm)

Your plant sure does look blooming size ....that is a nice one.

I hope it blooms so we can really tell.

Your garden space looks awesome.:nanadrink:

subsonicdrone
09-16-2018, 01:42 PM
some cold windy rainy weather caused damage to emerging leaves and slowed down the
lasiocarpa, maybe?
an updated pic and some pics of the yard:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63648&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63648)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63649&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63649)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63650&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63650)

aruzinsky
09-17-2018, 09:29 AM
The plant that I had picked up was mislabeled and is not a Lasi.

It is growing and looks nice but ain't what they said it was.

I need to get it to bloom to see what it is.
I think it is some sort of lilly.
.https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1844/43696277134_4a361a2e76_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29zhQQw)
Not a lasi (https://flic.kr/p/29zhQQw) by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr

If the portion of a petiole connecting to a leaf is swollen, it is a calathea. That swollen part of a calathea is called a "pulvinus."

cincinnana
09-19-2018, 03:40 AM
If the portion of a petiole connecting to a leaf is swollen, it is a calathea. That swollen part of a calathea is called a "pulvinus."

Thanks for the info..
My plant is not exhibiting the growth behavior like your plant and subsonicdrones.
This plant has a clumping habit.
I had a discussion with the previous owner who got it on a trade and the conclusion was..... There is no conclusion.
We believe it is some sort of plant in the lily family.

aruzinsky
09-19-2018, 10:16 AM
Thanks for the info..
My plant is not exhibiting the growth behavior like your plant and subsonicdrones.
This plant has a clumping habit.
I had a discussion with the previous owner who got it on a trade and the conclusion was..... There is no conclusion.
We believe it is some sort of plant in the lily family.

I suppose it might be a spathiphyllum. It doesn't look like an eucharis lily.

subsonicdrone
10-21-2018, 10:46 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63997&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63997)
starting to show the effects of the cold

aruzinski do you have any more pics from this season?

i will update again when it is more ragged

aruzinsky
10-21-2018, 04:41 PM
The one in the middle:

http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/MaurelliLasocarpaDwarfNamwah10-21-18.jpg

subsonicdrone
11-17-2018, 08:11 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64098&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64098)
since this may not be musella lasiocarpa i hope i did not expose it to too cold of temperatures
also being in the container would be colder for it
i was contemplating piling wood chips around the container in a big mound covering the p stem as well
i think i will just bring it indoors soon

on the bright side
no spider mites indoors this year
they always loved this plant

(keeping on top of a small scale(mealybug) problem but almost pest free this year)

aruzinsky
11-17-2018, 12:31 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64098&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64098)
since this may not be musella lasiocarpa i hope i did not expose it to too cold of temperatures
also being in the container would be colder for it
i was contemplating piling wood chips around the container in a big mound covering the p stem as well
i think i will just bring it indoors soon

on the bright side
no spider mites indoors this year
they always loved this plant

(keeping on top of a small scale(mealybug) problem but almost pest free this year)

You're kidding. Right?

I thought that your plant was a better variety than mine because it had shorter petioles. Where did you get it?

subsonicdrone
11-17-2018, 03:52 PM
rice road nurseries ... i think
Hardy Tropicals – Rice Road Greenhouses (http://www.millionplants.com/products/hardy-tropicals/)
it usually dies back each fall even indoors in decent conditions
i figured i would let it die back in the cold this year

what makes me think it is not musella lasiocarpa is its size
and the shortness of the pstem in relation to the leaf length

cincinnana
11-21-2018, 04:33 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64098&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64098)
since this may not be musella lasiocarpa i hope i did not expose it to too cold of temperatures
also being in the container would be colder for it
i was contemplating piling wood chips around the container in a big mound covering the p stem as well
i think i will just bring it indoors soon

on the bright side
no spider mites indoors this year
they always loved this plant

(keeping on top of a small scale(mealybug) problem but almost pest free this year)

It could be one of those low chill varieties:)

subsonicdrone
11-21-2018, 06:11 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64110&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64110)
i brought it inside last night because it may be -10c overnight tonight
the newest two leafs were pretty mushy
i cut them as low as i could
i am pretty confident that it is just fine and will start growing after an adjustment period

beam2050
11-21-2018, 07:28 AM
you must have a strong back.

but for all you efforts I do not think it will survive cause it looks like it snows inside your house too.

cincinnana
11-22-2018, 07:01 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64110&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64110)
i brought it inside last night because it may be -10c overnight tonight
the newest two leafs were pretty mushy
i cut them as low as i could
i am pretty confident that it is just fine and will start growing after an adjustment period

Awesome Christmas tree.:08:
Beam2050 is right, you might want to turn up the heat and make a fire.
-10=Brrrrrrrr

shouya
12-23-2018, 02:07 AM
voici le mien, planté il y a 5 ans.
été 2016 il était magnifique avec un feuillage superbe et luxuriant.
été 2017 je n'ai eu que des fleurs avec très peu de feuillage, même les petits bébés étaient en fleurs.
Ce printemps on a arraché tous les pseudo troncs morts et rajouté du compost puis planté un nouveau au centre. L'ancien a fait très peu de rejets.
Le Sikkimensis à gauche doit faire 4,5m minimum en haut du feuillage.

https://sm2.photorapide.com/membres/3394/photos/ss1erd.jpg (https://www.photorapide.com/images.php?photoName=ss1erd.jpg&photoId=1339054)

et le voici au moment de la préparation pour l'hiver

https://sm2.photorapide.com/membres/3394/photos/ne2erv.jpg (https://www.photorapide.com/images.php?photoName=ne2erv.jpg&photoId=1339056)

https://sm2.photorapide.com/membres/3394/photos/sfsxro.jpg (https://www.photorapide.com/images.php?photoName=sfsxro.jpg&photoId=1339057)

https://sm2.photorapide.com/membres/3394/photos/2hpkfa.jpg (https://www.photorapide.com/images.php?photoName=2hpkfa.jpg&photoId=1339058)

https://sm2.photorapide.com/membres/3394/photos/w52o9j.jpg (https://www.photorapide.com/images.php?photoName=w52o9j.jpg&photoId=1339059)

https://sm2.photorapide.com/membres/3394/photos/dirlmo.jpg (https://www.photorapide.com/images.php?photoName=dirlmo.jpg&photoId=1339060)

https://sm2.photorapide.com/membres/3394/photos/dirlmo.jpg (https://www.photorapide.com/images.php?photoName=dirlmo.jpg&photoId=1339060)

subsonicdrone
12-24-2018, 08:16 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64223&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64223)

well my plant is pretty hurting right now
the mushiness goes deep
it needs a haircut
i cut the centre out with a knife as there was rot in there
in a couple days i will trim it some more
for now it has some cedar branches to give the decorations something to hang off

shouya
12-24-2018, 11:38 AM
tu lui as trouvé une utilité et il est caché! :)

cincinnana
12-25-2018, 04:39 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64223&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64223)



Best tree ever..;)

subsonicdrone
12-26-2018, 10:47 AM
it might have been better to skip the christmas tree thing and trim the stem earlier
might have been able to stop the rot from going into the centre of the plant
its not looking so good
in chasing the rot i cut into something more yellow looking in the centre
i will still try to revive it
before haircut:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64228&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64228)
it was looking promising at first:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64225&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64225)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64226&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64226)
i kept chasing the rot in the centre
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64227&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64227)
water was pooling in the centre so i cut a drainage channel
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64230&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64230&ppuser=8631)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64229&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64229&ppuser=8631)
i may have cut into the flower bud
the very centre looked yellowish
also it was rotten quite far down
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64231&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64231&ppuser=8631)
i wont give up on it but it certainly does not look good right now

shouya
12-26-2018, 04:33 PM
Bonne chance :)

cincinnana
12-27-2018, 07:08 AM
I wont give up on it but it certainly does not look good right now

I will agree, I wonder if the roots got frozen also.
That was one big lasi.

cincinnana
12-27-2018, 07:10 AM
I wont give up on it but it certainly does not look good right now

I will agree, I wonder if the roots got frozen also.
I hope it sorts itself out
That was one big lasi.

aruzinsky
01-16-2020, 01:21 PM
My Ensete Lasiocarpum in greenhouse with supplementary 5 watt LED spotlight. The LED is off only during bright daylight. The plant gets light 24/7.
http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/EnseteLlasiocarpumAndLED1-17-18.jpg

Although difficult to see, each new leaf is slightly larger than the one that preceded it. Currently, this is my only banana plant that has made that progress. However, this Winter has been unusually sunny. I should add that the atmosphere is CO2 enriched from ventless natural gas heaters. Also, this was the only banana plant that had a bad mite infestation when I brought it inside from outdoors. I eradicated it with Avid and Bifenthrin. Every plant in the greenhouse was sprayed multiple times and it was a growth setback.
http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/EnseteLlasiocarpum1-17-18.jpg

Goal achieved:

http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/MusellaLasiocarpa.jpg

cincinnana
01-19-2020, 06:52 PM
Awesome.......some forum members are trying to do this.....:08:
Do you got more on your led setup?

subsonicdrone
01-25-2020, 09:10 PM
awesome! lots of pups
how tall is the pstem and how big did it get over all before flowering?
i have some seeds but none have germinated yet
beautiful flower!

aruzinsky
01-26-2020, 02:23 PM
awesome! lots of pups
how tall is the pstem and how big did it get over all before flowering?
i have some seeds but none have germinated yet
beautiful flower!

The pseudostem is 24" and the flower diameter is 14". It may interest you to know that the flower has a lot of nectar that sort of tastes like corn syrup on pancakes.

http://www.general-cathexis.com/images/MusellaLasiocarpa1-26-20.jpg

cincinnana
02-01-2020, 06:57 PM
Beautiful plant....

Mine not so pretty.