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trebor
08-27-2012, 03:10 PM
That's looking down my back yard next to the fence. I have at present 10 inches of water. It drains away quickly in about 24 hours it will be down to just real loose soil. But it has been like this for 3 days now .. I have 3 plants with fruit on them. All Cavendish one is 3.5 months .. I was wondering if all this water will make then fruit burst! OR SPLIT I know The Apples will split when over watered. So I wonder if I should just go cut my nanners off tonight and live with the out come .. Or leave on the plant and take the risk!
Any input would be greatly aprecheted

It's kinda amazing nothing blew over... Considering my neighbor has a few Papaya trees on the ground with plenty of fruit on them.. But I did tie my tall plants to the fence :) I figure that helped quite a bit



http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50288&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50288)

momoese
08-27-2012, 03:32 PM
Wow, that kinda sucks! I'd say leave them on the plants. Soon enough the water will be gone and plants will be fine.

RandyGHO
08-27-2012, 03:47 PM
I sure hope it drains down soon.
From Growing Bananas a UF article
Hope it is longer than what they say. They do say in general so maybe . . .
Banana plants are not flood tolerant. In general,
plants may survive 24 to 48 hours of flooding caused
by moving water. Stagnant water kills plants quickly.
Bananas should not be planted in flood-prone areas.
In areas where the water table is high and/or frequent
soil saturation or very brief flooding occurs, planting
on beds is recommended. Symptoms of continuously
wet but not flooded soil conditions include plant
stunting, leaf yellowing, and reduced yields.

PR-Giants
08-27-2012, 04:26 PM
I was wondering if all this water will make then fruit burst! OR SPLIT I know The Apples will split when over watered.

Plantains will often split after heavy rains, but they need to be close to harvest ready and after one splits you can harvest the bunch without further damage. They do not split all at once, I would say the second one splits a day or so later.

Chance1945
08-27-2012, 04:35 PM
Well, the police just came by to tell me to get out of town, but before I do I'm going to do what you did - tie my tree with fruit to the fence, never thought of that. I have a "Bronze" with fruit that I'm really excited about.

We're under mandatory evacuation for tomorrow and today a dusk to dawn curfew. If we get a storm surge and my plants are soaked in salt water for a day or so what are the chances that I'll lose them? If I'm flooded from rain water that should dilute the sea water to a point I would think. Is that a sound thought?

PR-Giants
08-27-2012, 05:09 PM
I sure hope it drains down soon.
From Growing Bananas a UF article
Hope it is longer than what they say. They do say in general so maybe . . .

Banana plants are not flood tolerant. In general,
plants may survive 24 to 48 hours of flooding caused
by moving water. Stagnant water kills plants quickly.
Bananas should not be planted in flood-prone areas.
In areas where the water table is high and/or frequent
soil saturation or very brief flooding occurs, planting
on beds is recommended. Symptoms of continuously
wet but not flooded soil conditions include plant
stunting, leaf yellowing, and reduced yields.


I have experienced much flooding in the past, but have yet to experience any flood damage.
I read somewhere for short term flooding (24 to 48 hours) to be a problem it needs to be accompanied by some low temperatures, which supports why I have not seen it.

I think you will be fine, Good Luck.

Olafhenny
08-27-2012, 06:15 PM
I sure hope it drains down soon.
From Growing Bananas a UF article
Hope it is longer than what they say. They do say in general so maybe . . .

Banana plants are not flood tolerant. In general,
plants may survive 24 to 48 hours of flooding caused
by moving water. Stagnant water kills plants quickly.
Bananas should not be planted in flood-prone areas.
In areas where the water table is high and/or frequent
soil saturation or very brief flooding occurs, planting
on beds is recommended. Symptoms of continuously
wet but not flooded soil conditions include plant
stunting, leaf yellowing, and reduced yields.



I beg to differ strongly. There may be some species, which may suffer damage from flooding, but
that certainly did not apply to the many bananas I have seen at the edges of rice fields in Vietnam,
with the soil level at the plants only inches above the surrounding, nearby water levels and with the
roots clearly below the water table, if not the corms.

Do yourself a favour, let them live and tell us in a month or so how well they are doing. Even if we
were wrong you could still murder them then. :ha:


I have experienced much flooding in the past, but have yet to experience any flood damage.
I read somewhere for short term flooding (24 to 48 hours) to be a problem it needs to be accompanied
by some low temperatures, which supports why I have not seen it.

I think you will be fine, Good Luck.

That with the low temperatures may be a point. Freezing temperatures would be a good
reason to be concerned.
:ha:

Darkman
08-27-2012, 06:24 PM
Well, the police just came by to tell me to get out of town, but before I do I'm going to do what you did - tie my tree with fruit to the fence, never thought of that. I have a "Bronze" with fruit that I'm really excited about.

We're under mandatory evacuation for tomorrow and today a dusk to dawn curfew. If we get a storm surge and my plants are soaked in salt water for a day or so what are the chances that I'll lose them? If I'm flooded from rain water that should dilute the sea water to a point I would think. Is that a sound thought?

Terry

Check out this interreactive map on storm surge prediction for Issac.

Tropical Storm ISAAC (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/212348.shtml?gm_psurge#contents)

It may give you some idea of what you need to worry about. You can zoom in right to your house and change the surge level to whatever level you wish. I hope all goes well for you and TJ. Looks like I'm out of the danger zone.

Nicolas Naranja
08-27-2012, 08:28 PM
I would leave the bananas alone, a short term flood like what you have shouldn't kill them.

brothertom2020
08-28-2012, 12:20 AM
Hmmm, methinks I'd be looking for a trash pump to pump it outta your garden, into a storm drain! I'd also leave them alone, after it's all over to dry out!

Prayers to you for a successful resolution. brothertom2020, PDX, OR.

Abnshrek
08-28-2012, 04:28 AM
My banana's welcome all the water that thing can muster up this way.. I know my talleest Orinoco crapped 6 pups last week, does it have ESP? I'm tieing it up anyway.. lol :^)

trebor
08-28-2012, 10:17 AM
Boy what a difference 24 hours has made.. I drove to the flood gates at water management My property is closly affected by the level of the L7 canal in Margate and the gateway is wide open . Thus lowering the water level in the ground here locally. A few feet under the sand down here in Florida is a constant supply of water . It drains pretty quickly because of the coral and sand substrate we live on.. The surface water is gone. The ground is partly hard in places but still very wet . Sun is out and we got a slight breeze so it should dry out pretty good here in the next few days .. Thanks everyone for all your input ..
Looking at my plants and thinking “what next ?“ was kind of daunting . I'm glad I had some back up advice to ease my fears..
I did not remove anything its all rite where it was before the water rising .. Now tonight I can get back to watching baseball with out worrying about my Bananas:waving:

Nicolas Naranja
08-30-2012, 02:41 PM
Well, this is a first a baby alligator has taken up residence

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/2012-08-29165738.jpg

RandyGHO
08-30-2012, 05:23 PM
Another foot or so and you have your own banana guard gator. :)

Abnshrek
08-30-2012, 05:32 PM
I got a whole whopping 6/10's so far.. I guess that's better than nothing.. :^)

trebor
08-30-2012, 05:33 PM
Id say “cute” but I know how nasty them little ones can be .. He looks happy next to them plants . The largest lizard I have here is a Anole about 5 inches long they eat bugs so I guess they are good to have around!

Abnshrek
08-30-2012, 05:35 PM
Nothing wrong w/ a good yard dog to keep them furry pests away.. :^)

Darkman
08-30-2012, 07:12 PM
If he starts licking his lips when you come around you can always have him for supper!