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Nicolas Naranja
08-14-2012, 01:06 PM
This plant came in a tray of Gran Nain, obviously it isn't Gran Nain
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/2012-07-04200253.jpg
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/2012-08-13175536.jpg
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/2012-08-13175542.jpg
RandyGHO
08-14-2012, 01:22 PM
I had ran across an ornamental like that.
Musa, Ensete, Musella
sunfish
08-14-2012, 01:27 PM
maybe Musa Sumatrana X Gran Nain (cross)
venturabananas
08-14-2012, 11:14 PM
That's a beauty. Let us know how the fruit are when the ripen up. I'm with Tony on the ID guess.
Nicolas Naranja
03-13-2013, 03:09 PM
That's a beauty. Let us know how the fruit are when the ripen up. I'm with Tony on the ID guess.
The fruit never filled. Even after 6 months.
venturabananas
03-13-2013, 05:05 PM
The fruit never filled. Even after 6 months.
I would guess it was a seeded variety that didn't get pollinated. Given what they sell and what it looks like, I'd guess Bordelon.
caliboy1994
03-13-2013, 05:13 PM
I'd say that's a bit too stout to be Bordelon. The fruit are also too big and are the wrong color. Here are some pics of Bordelon from the Wiki:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2619&size=1&filefix=.jpg
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2620&size=1&filefix=.jpg
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2617&size=1&filefix=.jpg
I agree with Tony. Looks a lot more like Sumatrana x Gran Nain.
Abnshrek
03-13-2013, 05:40 PM
maybe Musa Sumatrana X Gran Nain (cross)
I'm riding w/ Tony's Educated Guess. :^)
venturabananas
03-13-2013, 05:43 PM
I'm riding w/ Tony's Educated Guess. :^)
Could be right, but Sumutrana x Grand Naine usually fill fruit, I thought. And according to their current list, AgriStarts doesn't sell them.
Abnshrek
03-13-2013, 06:10 PM
Could be right, but Sumutrana x Grand Naine usually fill fruit, I thought. And according to their current list, AgriStarts doesn't sell them.
They don't have much inventory right now.. I know they had them available last summer. I'd say 6 months of fall & winter aren't the same as warm months. :^)
Nicolas Naranja
03-13-2013, 09:17 PM
I would guess it was a seeded variety that didn't get pollinated. Given what they sell and what it looks like, I'd guess Bordelon.
This plant came in a flat of TC gran nain that I received in December 2009. I kept it in a pot for a while and finally planted it in the ground November 2011. But the fruit never filled. Part of the reason it took so long to fruit is the fact that I was taking the leaves off of it to display my bananas. I'm getting rid of the plant. I don't have time for some ornamental thing.
PR-Giants
03-14-2013, 07:43 AM
Jamaica Red Banana..
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/IMG_3869-1.jpg
This plant is not the 'Jamaican Red'/'Cuban Red'/'Dwarf Red' (which are all the same). Unfortunately, I've been trying to figure out just exactly what it is for a long time, and have shown photos to many experts and no one seems to have any real idea about it. It is quite common though in nurseries and botanic gardens all over the US.
One idea is that it is the 'Sumatrana x Gran Nain', which is itself somewhat of an enigma, but I'm not totally convinced that's what it is.
http://www.bananas.org/f2/whats-blooming-your-garden-bananas-11555-9.html#post170460
Nicolas Naranja
03-14-2013, 09:59 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37729&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37729)
This was the plant back when it was in a pot. October 24th 2010. It's a wonder I put up with it as long as I did.
kaczercat
03-14-2013, 10:06 AM
The pic of it when it's small looks much like my blood banana.
Nicolas Naranja
03-14-2013, 10:15 AM
I think they were actually selling zebrina at the time. It's a short plant too fruiting at 4.5-5 feet. I'm sure it would be a nice indoor plant.
venturabananas
03-14-2013, 11:55 AM
OK, I'm back on board with Sumatrana x Grand Naine. Keith's link to Gabe's post and Andreas' post of Bordelon photos convinced me -- and the fact that this plant doesn't appear to have an AA genome, it is short, and it's definitely not Zebrina based on the bunch shape.
Nicolas Naranja
03-14-2013, 12:16 PM
OK, I'm back on board with Sumatrana x Grand Naine. Keith's link to Gabe's post and Andreas' post of Bordelon photos convinced me -- and the fact that this plant doesn't appear to have an AA genome, it is short, and it's definitely not Zebrina based on the bunch shape.
Well, it's easy to see how sumatrana x gran naine may have ended up in a flat of gran naine. It was probably poorly labeled.
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