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Snookie
07-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Is anyone using coffee grounds around or on their nanna's?

sandy0225
07-27-2012, 04:21 PM
i've used coffee grounds on several plants in the greenhouse. usually when I can't seem the weeds to quit coming up in the pots. You pull all the weeds you can and then apply a thin layer of grounds as a mulch so that the remaining seeds don't germinate.

dkf85281
07-27-2012, 06:24 PM
i use them... but haven't noticed anything special... not sure if it really makes a difference. but i noticed watering everyday with weekly fertilizer really helps.

Jose263
07-27-2012, 06:29 PM
My coffee grounds go to the compost heap - later compost on my plants including bananas

PR-Giants
07-27-2012, 06:51 PM
Hey Snookie,
I hope you are using official Puerto Rican coffee grounds.

Snookie
07-27-2012, 07:01 PM
Hey Snookie,
I hope you are using official Puerto Rican coffee grounds.

Actually I'm using South Louisiana Coffee Grounds fresh from my local home owned Super Market.

But i think the beans come from your neighborhood?

sunfish
07-27-2012, 07:27 PM
Coffee grounds are best used early morning

PR-Giants
07-27-2012, 07:32 PM
Actually I'm using South Louisiana Coffee Grounds fresh from my local home owned Super Market.

But i think the beans come from your neighborhood?

I doubt dem beans came from my neck of the woods. We hardly grow anymore beans here, can't find anyone to pick-em.
Thanks to our generous Uncle Sam.

Darkman
07-27-2012, 11:45 PM
i use them... but haven't noticed anything special... not sure if it really makes a difference.

There is something very special about Coffee grounds.

When scattered around the base of Sago palms the hard scale insects die. The scale almost wiped out Sagos until this was discovered by a wholesale grower.

I don't know what or how this happens but it saved the Sagos. No big company is going to spend money to figure out why it works unless they can make big bucks doing it.

I'm sure there are unseen benefits from the use of Coffee grounds.

Snookie
07-28-2012, 02:11 PM
There is something very special about Coffee grounds.

I'm sure there are unseen benefits from the use of Coffee grounds.


Well they make enough coffee at work to possibly fill a five gallon bucket up with grounds every week so.......I'm going to give it a go:}

I use and save the grounds at home for my worm bed:}

Now maybe I'll come up with a New Variety of Nana hum Call it "Coffe a lait" Nana Plant


Heck got 12 unknown type now why not a lucky 13 lol:nanadrink:

momoese
07-28-2012, 03:39 PM
It's best to use them composted for acid loving plants. Enough usage will change the soil ph so keep that in mind.

Magilla Gorilla
07-28-2012, 04:32 PM
I noticed it made my AeAe's have more white and striking looking. It can change the soil ph. I use them on gardenia as well.

Olafhenny
07-28-2012, 09:54 PM
Coffee grounds are like all other organic matter. They have to decompose or be processed
by dew worms to be absorbable by plants. There is no reason, why they cannot decompose
when scattered around your bananas, but the process will probably be faster inside the humid
environment of your compost.

nannerfunboi
07-28-2012, 09:56 PM
here in utah we have pretty alkaline soil..so as mentioned
earlier post..do watch your soil pH..
i use most of mine in my compost..and rest go into gardens
overwinter..and get spaded under..
the worms love it...:)

sunfish
07-28-2012, 11:05 PM
pH of Soil from Coffee Grounds | Coffee Grounds to Ground (http://groundtoground.org/2011/03/05/ph-of-soil-from-coffee-grounds/)

sunfish
07-28-2012, 11:09 PM
The Truth About Coffee Grounds in Your Garden | Michael Nolan's My Earth Garden (http://www.myearthgarden.com/2012/02/the-truth-about-coffee-grounds-in-your-garden/)

sunfish
07-28-2012, 11:17 PM
Fast ‘urban compost’ – saving energy outside the home | Arlington HEET (http://arlingtonheet.org/2011/11/fast-urban-compost-saving-energy-outside-the-home/)

Olafhenny
07-28-2012, 11:25 PM
A couple of excellent articles! Thanks for sharing, Tony

dkf85281
07-29-2012, 04:01 AM
wow! great article! i've been adding them directly to the soil... maybe it's time i finally get a compost bin!

planetrj
07-29-2012, 06:28 AM
Coffee Grounds (fresh from the pot) suck up nitrogen from the soil and need to decompose to release the nitrogen, but once it's decomposed, it will add plenty of Nitrogen and other micronutrients. It also can help release other components in the soil to be usable to the plants.

One word of caution. While Musa/Ensente don't have too much problem with aphids or spider mites, there is something in the unmulched grounds that seems to attract aphids and spider mites to those plants. I've noted this through the years with Solanaceae family and especially Tomato plants. I would suggest NEVER add unmulched grounds to soil currently used by plants because of this issue (except for the Palms as mentioned).

Snookie
07-29-2012, 10:49 AM
Tanks Tony of the links...

I like DAT me:}

:woohoonaner:

sunfish
07-29-2012, 10:54 AM
Tanks Tony of the links...

I like DAT me:}

:woohoonaner:

不客气

Olafhenny
07-29-2012, 12:49 PM
不客气

這是一個很大的幫助 :)

PR-Giants
07-29-2012, 12:58 PM
Coffee Grounds (fresh from the pot) suck up nitrogen from the soil and need to decompose to release the nitrogen, but once it's decomposed, it will add plenty of Nitrogen and other micronutrients. It also can help release other components in the soil to be usable to the plants.


Coffee grounds, grass clippings and many other organics are not nitrogen robbers.

This is the internet and people have the right to spread false and misleading information.

When I first joined this site, I incorrectly assumed the members here the longest would be the most knowledgeable.

When determining what to compost and what could be directly added to the soil, check the C:N.

sunfish
07-29-2012, 01:51 PM
I believe it is all explained here

coffee grounds - Soil Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg0612413428024.html?12)

I could of read it and put it in my own words and sound like I know what I'm talking about :)

sunfish
07-29-2012, 02:04 PM
The Starbucks coffee compost test - Sunset.com (http://www.sunset.com/garden/earth-friendly/starbucks-coffee-compost-test-00400000016986/)

alias
07-29-2012, 02:17 PM
I know it helps for palms like Butias and Jubaeas. They like acid ground.

Darkman
07-29-2012, 02:40 PM
As do blueberries!

trebor
07-29-2012, 03:49 PM
Good thread.. I learned I was wrong about coffee grinds. But now I'm on track...


http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/hgils/coffee.jpg

PR-Giants
07-29-2012, 04:12 PM
Green Manure Hawaii

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/sustainag/NewFarmer/downloads/Accelerating%20_Adoption_of%20_Cover%20Crops.pdf

C:N Ratio Washington State University

Compost Fundamentals: Compost Needs - Carbon Nitrogen Relationships (http://whatcom.wsu.edu/ag/compost/fundamentals/needs_carbon_nitrogen.htm)

Carbon to Nitrogen Ratio - Composting 101 (http://www.composting101.com/c-n-ratio.html)

Hammocked Banana
07-31-2012, 04:13 PM
Not sure if u read those articles but they are all about composting and decomposition. It is infact true that putting fresh coffee grounds, or other non-composted organics, around plants does sap up nitrogen. It's not the coffee grounds sapping the N, its the bacteria essentially eating the N to break down C (and other compounds) which is actually explained in one of your articles! However feeding the bacteria is the whole point of organic gardening, so the way to feed the bacteria but not take it away from a plants feeder roots, is to compost seperately and then give the plants the compost, this way they get nutes from the compost, and further metabolism of the bacteria/fungi/etc.

PR-Giants
07-31-2012, 08:09 PM
Not sure if u read those articles but they are all about composting and decomposition. It is infact true that putting fresh coffee grounds, or other non-composted organics, around plants does sap up nitrogen. It's not the coffee grounds sapping the N, its the bacteria essentially eating the N to break down C (and other compounds) which is actually explained in one of your articles! However feeding the bacteria is the whole point of organic gardening, so the way to feed the bacteria but not take it away from a plants feeder roots, is to compost seperately and then give the plants the compost, this way they get nutes from the compost, and further metabolism of the bacteria/fungi/etc.

It appears u did not read those articles but they are all about composting and decomposition. It is infact true that putting fresh coffee grounds, or some other non-composted organics, around plants does not sap up nitrogen.

Here in the USA, we are taught about soil amendments in Kindergarten before the fourth thursday in November.

I plant in non-composted organics with a C:N of less than 20, and I do it every day of the year. If I was to believe you maybe my plants would shrink but they don't shrink they grow to 15 feet and higher.

I would suggust that you read the articles, Good Luck EH

Olafhenny
07-31-2012, 09:13 PM
Keith and Brady,
you guys are splitting hairs. It is a well known fact, that nitrogen accelerates decomposition.
It is especially needed, when you want to add "hard cellulose" to the stuff to be decomposed. like in
saw dust. That goes to a slightly lesser degree for coffee grinds. Grass clippings and other green
soft plant tissue usually supply their own nitrogen to the process with plenty to spare.

Clearly pre-decomposed coffee grinds absorb less nitrogen than fresh ones. However the latter will not
absorb enough N to make an appreciable difference in the growth of the plants, unless coffee grinds
form the bulk of the organic mass added.

And please, Keith, let us keep chauvinistic statements out of this forum.

Thanks,
Olaf

PR-Giants
07-31-2012, 11:25 PM
And please, Keith, let us keep chauvinistic statements out of this forum.


If you are referring to this sentence

"Here in the USA, we are taught about soil amendments in Kindergarten before the fourth thursday in November."

then you either don't understand the definition of chauvinistic or
you don't realize what the sentence was referring to.

Olafhenny
07-31-2012, 11:49 PM
I do not use words I do not understand

Hammocked Banana
08-02-2012, 01:26 PM
Keith Im not here to start a fight. Im here to learn and to share knowledge when it is something I can help with. I am a biochemist and so know a thing or two about microorganisms, and since my passion is organic gardening I have spent alot of my spare time learning everything I can about the life in my soil. I think you have the wrong idea of what bacteria sapping up nutrients means, and your plants certainly wont shrink lol, that will only happen if you take a machete to it. In the case of N this means that the bacteria absorb some of the free soluble N available in the soil, which is also what you feeder roots are trying to do. The bacteria dont steal the nutrients from the plants as it were, but essentially "compete" a little bit with the plants for the N. Now mind you, there are also a lot of bacteria in the soil fixing N from the atmosphere in to more usable sources of N for the plants to use. There is a lot going on down there not just a few greedy bacteria. If the organic matter is already composted it is simply more benificial because the N in the matter is already broken down by the bacteria/fungi into a form immediatelty usable for the plants.

Im sorry if I was somehow out of line I was just adding my 2 cents.

Edit: And for the record it is definately better to add some organic matter that isn't fully composted, than to do nothing at all (keeping in mind things like rot, etc). It will just take longer to see the effect.

Snookie
08-02-2012, 05:25 PM
Whew Doggie....lol

All I have to say is that I added approx 10# of coffe grounds to my composter and we'll see what happens:}

I'm old school so I'm experimenting all the time.

But I did sleep at Holiday Inn a few times..

Peace B with U

sunfish
08-02-2012, 06:02 PM
How about tea bags whoohoo

Snookie
08-02-2012, 06:19 PM
How about tea bags whoohoo

Awe Ya! On another thread were considering Composted Monkeys for making monkey tea? or monkey juice...

Tea bags defenitly a possibility:08:

Darkman
08-03-2012, 11:20 AM
Keith Im not here to start a fight. Im here to learn and to share knowledge when it is something I can help with. I am a biochemist and so know a thing or two about microorganisms, and since my passion is organic gardening I have spent alot of my spare time learning everything I can about the life in my soil. I think you have the wrong idea of what bacteria sapping up nutrients means, and your plants certainly wont shrink lol, that will only happen if you take a machete to it. In the case of N this means that the bacteria absorb some of the free soluble N available in the soil, which is also what you feeder roots are trying to do. The bacteria dont steal the nutrients from the plants as it were, but essentially "compete" a little bit with the plants for the N. Now mind you, there are also a lot of bacteria in the soil fixing N from the atmosphere in to more usable sources of N for the plants to use. There is a lot going on down there not just a few greedy bacteria. If the organic matter is already composted it is simply more benificial because the N in the matter is already broken down by the bacteria/fungi into a form immediatelty usable for the plants.

Im sorry if I was somehow out of line I was just adding my 2 cents.

Edit: And for the record it is definately better to add some organic matter that isn't fully composted, than to do nothing at all (keeping in mind things like rot, etc). It will just take longer to see the effect.

AND y'all having said all that I want to throw a monkey wrench into this.

Obviously the UNcomposted coffee grounds have a very positive effect on scale on Sagos.

I'm sure that composted coffee would be great for the Sagos but would not kill the scale.

SOOOOO is it not beyond the realm of possibility that both ways may have good benefits and maybe some unforseen benefits! All things in moderation.

In the natural environment Coffee grounds would never find there way into the soil.

FURTHERMORE in a natural environment you would never find compost.

PR-Giants
08-03-2012, 12:32 PM
Brady, I am also here for similar reasons.

When I earlier wrote "USA" I was merely refering to that in our first year of school before Thanksgiving, we are taught that the Pilgrims needed the assistance of the Native Americans to amend the soil.

There are many examples of organics being successfully used to benefit a plant before they are fully composted.
I am a simple farmer with only 15 years of experience growing bananas. In the past few years I have had 3 commercial farms come into my sector and all 3 have since closed because of low yields.

Main methods of growing bananas, listed by least amount of labor needed

add nothing

add chemical fertilizers

add non-composted organics

add composted organics

Chemical fertilizers are used commercially mainly because it requires less labor, while still producing an acceptable yield.

I prefer to use non-composted grass because
Banana roots actually thrive in 100% non-composted organics'
It retains more moisture, thus providing the plant with a constant water source and water is a main key in growing bananas.
It supplies more than enough nitrogen and all other necessary nutrients for the entire life cycle of the plant, a constant time release of nutrients.



And please, Olaf, keep anti-American sentiments out of this forum.
For many of us living outside of your shores the letters USA represents a very positive symbol.

TNAndy
08-04-2012, 08:10 AM
A couple of years ago I saw a Cordyline in flower at a garden center in Florida. I had never before seen one in bloom, so I asked the greenhouse owner what she had done. She said she poured her cold, leftover coffee on it. When I returned home, I started putting my leftover coffee on my Hawaiian Ti plants. This past winter, they bloomed.

I have no idea whether cold coffee would be beneficial for banana plants or whether it would encourage flowering, but it seems to work on Ti.

Darkman
08-05-2012, 08:50 AM
Ahhh....the benefits of stimulating Caffeine.

Actually I have no idea but it sounds good as I'm sitting here drinking my Southern Pecan Coffee. :2738:

Can someone explain why I can't find a Banana drinking Coffee

Snookie
08-05-2012, 11:35 AM
Ahhh...

Can someone explain why I can't find a Banana drinking Coffee


Shizzzahm...

Gourmet Coffee, Coffee Club, Home Delivery, Gifts - BocaJava.com (http://www.bocajava.com/fresh-roasted-gourmet-coffee/flavor-roast-coffee/bananas-foster-float-coffee/4855?cct_info=1|28269|4629257132|58786210|2061003970|e|771548053 0|tc||g|||&cct_ver=3&cct_bk=banana%20coffee&gclid=CLKhgaTz0LECFQmEnQod9VMAoA)

Darkman
08-05-2012, 02:42 PM
Shizzzahm...

Gourmet Coffee, Coffee Club, Home Delivery, Gifts - BocaJava.com (http://www.bocajava.com/fresh-roasted-gourmet-coffee/flavor-roast-coffee/bananas-foster-float-coffee/4855?cct_info=1|28269|4629257132|58786210|2061003970|e|771548053 0|tc||g|||&cct_ver=3&cct_bk=banana%20coffee&gclid=CLKhgaTz0LECFQmEnQod9VMAoA)

Sorry Mayor,

I meant an emotiocon of a "Banana drinking a cup of Coffee".

Jose263
08-05-2012, 08:40 PM
A couple of years ago I saw a Cordyline in flower at a garden center in Florida. I had never before seen one in bloom, so I asked the greenhouse owner what she had done. She said she poured her cold, leftover coffee on it. When I returned home, I started putting my leftover coffee on my Hawaiian Ti plants. This past winter, they bloomed.

I have no idea whether cold coffee would be beneficial for banana plants or whether it would encourage flowering, but it seems to work on Ti.

Interesting observation - Think I'll start adding my leftover coffee - what benefits come from the cream and sugar? :ha:
Actually, left over coffee in the pot sounds like a form of compost tea... Speaking of tea, does anyone also compost tea leaves or use them on plants?
:2738:

G.W.
08-05-2012, 10:12 PM
Why are people SO obsessed with composters?
IGNORANCE
Do you REALLY think your plastic drum works better at making nature than NATURE? Seriously?


Funny story.
I ran over a toad the other night on my motorcycle.
You see I turn on the bug light at night and a herd of toads congregate to eat all the bugs. Then the toads poop on the lawn. I figure it adds about 2 pounds of N per year. EXPENSIVE N I know, but have you ever watched a fist sized toad try swallowing a half zapped rhino beetle? Has to be worth $1. :lurk:

So I was coming around the yard and I hit this big toad with the front tire.
I felt bad since they're sort of like pets, my minions I call them.

So the next day I was doing an aphid check and noticed the toad moving.
There was a bug digging under him like this one Field Biology in Southeastern Ohio: The American Burying Beetle Project (http://fieldbioinohio.blogspot.com/2010/08/american-burying-beetle-project.html)
It buried the whole damn toad the size of a plum !!! :08:

I was ignorant or burying beetles until I wrote this post.
Now I'm going to feed them extra tree rats. :birthdaynana:

Darkman
08-06-2012, 01:38 PM
Why are people SO obsessed with composters?
IGNORANCE
Do you REALLY think your plastic drum works better at making nature than NATURE? Seriously?


Not better

But

Faster

And it is easier!

PR-Giants
12-07-2012, 05:24 PM
I was curious if a banana would grow in 100 % Puerto Rican Coffee Grounds.

I planted one piece of corm in coffee and another in soil.

A banana will grow in CG but not very well, it seems the banana grows faster than the time it takes for the CG to break down.

Grass on the other hand, breaks down quickly and is available before the banana plant needs to use it.

I posted the photo for anyone else that might have also been curious.

100 % Coffee Grounds in the pot on the right.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51603&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51603&limit=recent)

Olafhenny
12-07-2012, 11:35 PM
Bananas are among the most nutritious fruits on the planet. But if you ate nothing but bananas
you would not "grow" very well either. Your experiment, while interesting, says nothing against
using coffee grounds as fertilizer or as "nutritional supplement" :)

Jose263
12-08-2012, 08:02 AM
Bananas are among the most nutritious fruits on the planet. But if you ate nothing but bananas
you would not "grow" very well either. Your experiment, while interesting, says nothing against
using coffee grounds as fertilizer or as "nutritional supplement" :)

Coffee grinds as fertilizer? - Yahoo! Answers (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070910102107AAOQLXc)
apparently Tea leaves/grounds have similar benefits.
Google and learn.....
Happy holidays everyone

PR-Giants
12-08-2012, 09:47 AM
Bananas are among the most nutritious fruits on the planet. But if you ate nothing but bananas
you would not "grow" very well either. Your experiment, while interesting, says nothing against
using coffee grounds as fertilizer or as "nutritional supplement" :)



I am a little confused by your assumption,

Some whales and fish mainly eat phytoplankton,

carnivorous animals mainly eat meat,

and grazing animals mainly eat grass.

Back to coffee grounds,

I am only a simple farmer and mainly judge the usefulness of organics by how

it effects the plant crop, not the first, second or third ratoon crops.

The experiment was done to see if there was a positive effect for the plant

crop, and I always assumed the ratoon crops would benefit.

Grass cuttings are highly beneficial to the plant crop as well as the ratoon

crops, and can be used as the sole source of nutrients.

By using 100 % of a single organic, the effect is more clearly seen.

edzone9
12-08-2012, 10:07 AM
I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

PR-Giants
12-08-2012, 10:14 AM
I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

That is very interesting that an avocado would grow well in 100 % coffee grounds.

Were the leaves dark or light green ?

Jose263
12-08-2012, 10:28 AM
I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

Please tell more - where did the avacado come from (seed or smaller plant) was coffee grounds the total soil or just the fert?:0519:

edzone9
12-08-2012, 11:21 AM
It's the 1st thing that i ever planted , i bought an avacado at my local NYC Bodega ( Store ) , it was a Huge One , Dont Know the type .

Did Some Re-search On The Net , Removed the Avacado Seed , Stuck 2 toothpicks at the sides, put it in a glass cup with the seed half way in the water .

Afew weeks later it sprouted .
Once 1 leaf sprouted , i went and planted it in a small pot with good potting soil .

Im a coffee drinkler , so everytime my wife made coffee , we saved the Grounds in the fridge , & Every Month a added a Tablespoon To The soil & watered It In .

I relocated To Fl , Planted The Avacado Tree in my Yard & Now Its about 7ft tall very Healthy !

I continue to fertilize with coffee grounds only .
So Dont Throw away Those Coffe Grounds They Are Great Fertilizer !

Good Luck !

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51440&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51440&ppuser=14807)

Jose263
12-08-2012, 11:42 AM
It's the 1st thing that i ever planted , i bought an avacado at my local NYC Bodega ( Store ) , it was a Huge One , Dont Know the type .
Did Some Re-search On The Net , Removed the Avacado Seed , Stuck 2 toothpicks at the sides, put it in a glass cup with the seed half way in the water .
Afew weeks later it sprouted .
Once 1 leaf sprouted , i went and planted it in a small pot with good potting soil . Im a coffee drinkler , so everytime my wife made coffee , we saved the Grounds in the fridge , & Every Month a added a Tablespoon To The soil & watered It In .
I relocated To Fl , Planted The Avacado Tree in my Yard & Now Its about 7ft tall very Healthy !
I continue to fertilize with coffee grounds only .
So Dont Throw away Those Coffe Grounds They Are Great Fertilizer !

Good Luck !

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51440&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51440&ppuser=14807)
Really neat - Great success story :0517: I've never had much success growing from seed -what type was it before you ate the flesh? BTW you may need to graft a good variety to the root stock if you want quality fruit. Also, Avacados are of several types - i believe A and B refers to time of day the flowers become male or female- so they generally don't pollinate themselves.
As long as you are grafting -make sure you use both A & B graftwood - there are much more experienced folks and discussions on the forum re: grafting
good Luck:bananas_b

edzone9
12-08-2012, 11:49 AM
Thank You Jose, I wont risk the chance of lossing this tree to grafting ;)
This tree i will let nature take its course .

this summer i was in miami , by the Tree farms , Stopped By an old ladies house , where she had a wheel barrell in front of her home loaded with avacados for sale .

I stopped bought afew , they tasted buttery & Great !
She stated that she planted a avacado seed about 4 years ago & the tree produces a boat load of avacados.

So Much that she has to sell them street side .
I hope my tree has the same results , if not i will buy a grafted Avacado tree for fruit .

Thanks gain ed..

Olafhenny
12-08-2012, 11:51 AM
I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

That is very interesting that an avocado would grow well in 100 % coffee grounds.

Were the leaves dark or light green ?




PR, read Endzon9's post again. He did not say, that he grew the avocado in 100% coffee grounds,
but the coffee grounds were the only fertilizer he used. Obviously there was some soil involved,
which contained the minerals the plant needed.

edzone9
12-08-2012, 11:59 AM
Again I Only Used Coffee Grounds On Avacado as Fertilizer Only , Avacado Seem To Like The Coffee Grounds & Respond well to it .

I Have Not Tried The Same With Bananas,,,

PR-Giants
12-08-2012, 12:04 PM
I hope the fruit from your new avocado tree has some good qualities.

When growing an avocado from seed, you should plant many trees and hope to end up with one good tree, that is why it is almost always better to plant a grafted tree.



used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .





i went and planted it in a small pot with good potting soil .



It is difficult to determine if your great results are due to the good potting soil or the coffee grounds.

PR-Giants
12-08-2012, 12:33 PM
PR, read Endzon9's post again. He did not say, that he grew the avocado in 100% coffee grounds,
but the coffee grounds were the only fertilizer he used. Obviously there was some soil involved,
which contained the minerals the plant needed.




I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

Olaf, maybe you should read Endzon9's post again. He did not mention, that he grew the avocado in a good potting soil, but only said he used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize. There clearly was no mention of a good potting soil being involved as the primary source of fertilizer.

FYI

"nothing but" does not mean coffee grounds and something else.

"Nothing but", only; no more than. --Chaucer.

Olafhenny
12-08-2012, 02:20 PM
Olaf, maybe you should read Endzon9's post again. He did not mention, that he grew the avocado in a good potting soil, but only said he used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize. There clearly was no mention of a good potting soil being involved as the primary source of fertilizer.

FYI

"nothing but" does not mean coffee grounds and something else.

"Nothing but", only; no more than. --Chaucer.

Okay, KJ, I have thought underlining the word "fertilizer" in my post would be enough to explain
that he used it as an additive, not as the sole medium, as you did.

When you explained, that whales live on plankton alone you did not take in account, that
"plankton" is not a homogeneous mass like coffee grounds, but consists of a huge variety of
micro organisms of plants as well as animals, all with their own individual contribution to a
wealth of nutrients, including tiny crustaceans, which help the whales to grow their mighty
bones.

As far as herbivores eating just grass, that is not so. If your cow only ate blades of fescue,
(plain grass) she would soon show signs of malnutrition. Instead her diet consists of clovers,
dandelions, sage, milk thistles and a huge variety of other herbs, each with their own
combination of beneficial nutrients.

Jose263
12-08-2012, 02:54 PM
come on guys - get over yourselves - He did a great job growing a nice tree from a seed and he is happy with coffee as primary fertilizer.

if you've got that much time on your hands, fix the fiscal cliff problem.

Olafhenny
12-08-2012, 03:12 PM
I do not know the motivations of others to join bananas.org, but mine was primarily to learn
something new. And part of the learning process is clearing up misconceptions, especially mine.

But if I stepped on somebodies toes, while attempting to do just that, for others, I apologize.

Olafhenny
12-08-2012, 05:37 PM
More on Coffee and "fertilizer" :ha::

Elephant-dung coffee world's dearest | South China Morning Post (http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1100912/elephant-dung-coffee-worlds-dearest)

Jose263
12-08-2012, 06:05 PM
I do not know the motivations of others to join bananas.org, but mine was primarily to learn
something new. And part of the learning process is clearing up misconceptions, especially mine.

But if I stepped on somebodies toes, while attempting to do just that, for others, I apologize.


Olaf - me too- sorry if I've offended anyone- I'll do my best to lurk from now on./.:03:

edzone9
12-08-2012, 06:14 PM
I Think The Most Important thing about gardening ,is self gratification :08:

Planting a seed that tunrs out to make a great plant .
in the process you discover by trial & error what works best for you & The pant .

Its a Lil Science & lots Of Guess work .:nanadrink: