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gtrplr71
05-22-2012, 05:47 AM
I want to seperate thes pups from the mother plant but am a little afraid I will kill it attached are picks of plant the pups are establishing well. I dont have room to get a shovel in there and do not want to harm the mother the plant is in a 20 gallon container and I don't have a lot ot room to work. Thanks for any help.

H2O
05-22-2012, 06:08 AM
This may help : Time to separate the pups for the Spring (http://www.bananas.org/f2/time-separate-pups-spring-1814.html#post12495)

Instead of shovel, maybe a small piece of metal sheet or "large" knife blade?

gtrplr71
05-22-2012, 06:10 AM
that is a great thread but I don't have room for a shovel because there are 7 plants in the pot. It it a 20 gallon container

gtrplr71
05-22-2012, 06:11 AM
I might try a knife or a garden spade I just dont want to damage the plant.

gtrplr71
05-22-2012, 06:19 AM
here is a pic of the container
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sunfish
05-22-2012, 07:03 AM
May be best to take it out of the pot.Separate the pups and re-pot it

gtrplr71
05-22-2012, 07:12 AM
so if it is a sucker it wont live right? it needs a corm?

gtrplr71
05-22-2012, 07:14 AM
May be best to take it out of the pot.Separate the pups and re-pot it

It is a huge pot with aproximately 7 plants in it.

gtrplr71
05-22-2012, 07:15 AM
What species is this?

sunfish
05-22-2012, 07:24 AM
Blood banana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_banana)

oakshadows
05-22-2012, 07:42 AM
It might be a good idea for you to read more of the posts about bananas. Removing the pups won't kill them if they have some root on their corm. I'm about to do the same thing and appreciate all of the help. If you look at the post "When to remove" there is a very good video of removing the pups. Thank "rainforezt" for posting this for us and . Good luck and keep us posted.

H2O
05-22-2012, 10:27 AM
Nice video here (http://www.bananas.org/f2/when-remove-15724.html#post195443) from When to remove (http://www.bananas.org/f2/when-remove-15724.html#post195366) thread

gtrplr71
05-23-2012, 05:07 AM
Thank you for the wonderful resources and tips. I appriciate it!

higuerajp
05-23-2012, 06:52 AM
Its a very nice plant, however I would be careful with the pups. If they are not that big only remove the biger ones you have until the little ones get a decent size. The first time I got pups from my mussa I was a bit impatient to have them in different pots and decided to remove all at once. Only 1 big one (25 - 30 cm high/4 to 6 leaves) survived and the 4 other small ones ended up dying after a while. They probably didnt get used to the weather or soil and were also damaged when I try to remove them from the mother plant. I did not check where you are writting from but here in Basel I always check for weather conditions within the next days before removing them, as it is always good to have good amounts of sun, for them to take the energy they need to grow. I also checked the video and at that time was very helpful for me too, but just be careful when removing even your big pups as from what I see, some of your pups are not even the size of the pups in the video, and you may end up damaging yours.

caliboy1994
05-23-2012, 10:49 PM
Maybe let the pups get a little bit bigger before separating? And yes they need to have a root system to survive.

gtrplr71
05-24-2012, 07:44 AM
Its a very nice plant, however I would be careful with the pups. If they are not that big only remove the biger ones you have until the little ones get a decent size. The first time I got pups from my mussa I was a bit impatient to have them in different pots and decided to remove all at once. Only 1 big one (25 - 30 cm high/4 to 6 leaves) survived and the 4 other small ones ended up dying after a while. They probably didnt get used to the weather or soil and were also damaged when I try to remove them from the mother plant. I did not check where you are writting from but here in Basel I always check for weather conditions within the next days before removing them, as it is always good to have good amounts of sun, for them to take the energy they need to grow. I also checked the video and at that time was very helpful for me too, but just be careful when removing even your big pups as from what I see, some of your pups are not even the size of the pups in the video, and you may end up damaging yours.

Thank you for this I live in Texas so sun and heat are the norm around here I dont mind there being so many in the container I just want them to thive and be happy!

higuerajp
05-24-2012, 04:02 PM
Just keep them in there until all of them have a good size. I dont know how long does it take you in Texas to have the smallest plant something in between 25 to 30 cm and then remove them all, here the weather is kind of crappy for bananas. So from end of spring, beginning of summer where I usually get one, (which will be the last one), I ussually leave them with the mother minimum 3 1/2 months, (longest I have left them together has been 8 months) (having a baby end of summer, as a result leaving it in the winter time together) and then cut them out.
If you are not satisfied, you can always change your container into a bigger one, however the plants wont change their position and so the leaves will be touching each other, about rooting system I dont think it will change anything, besides growing roots couple of cm away from the mother (if you are lucky).
Anyways, it is normal in banana plants to stay together, so dont worry about it, they will adapt and will be happy, then when the small one gets that normal size (for me, 30 cm) you can then proceed and remove them all.
Ive heard it is good to leave the first pup with the mother, which will be replacing the mother when it gives fruits, which probably is the biggest one you have. However in some cases, in within my plants there is one that comes first but does take its time to develop having the second and sometimes the third to look bigger, and therefore also looking older. Anyways, I, since the third year of my first banana plant have left the new baby coming out and then I wait and later remove t he other ones. I havent had any banana fruit yet, so my first one is still alive. In the video it also states something like that, however here in muttenz (basel), during the first 2 years I have always removed all and ther has been really no change.

I started with one and at the moment I have 29 banana plants without counting around 9 -12 I have given away in the past years and the ones that have died which will be around 7, counting the initial 4, 1 basjoo and 2 ensetes maurely which I didnt take good care at the end. And so at the end I have had different kinds and it has worked for me. So I guess you got to be patient and wait a bit. Then if you wait, the plants will seem to be anyways stronger as well, and will probably give you bigger amounts of pups next year. Of that Im still not sure, but since I left the new one of the last season on my oldest one, now I have 8 growing up pups in the same container. I will take a pic of my plants in a bit of time and will post what I have done to each so you can have some idea. And that way, probably someone can also help me identify most of them. Because here in Switzerland the garden companies sell them all under the same name. {Musa Banana}

At last please forgive my english, it is not my first language and it has gotten worst since I started to learn german here.

oakshadows
05-24-2012, 05:27 PM
Jonathon, nothing wrong with your english. If all of us could speak several languages as good as you, communication would be a lot easier. Thanks for the post and please try to post some photos of your plants and locale.