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steve169
04-14-2012, 01:23 PM
What would be the best nutrient solution for doing a banana dwc in say a 5 gallon bucket?
kgbenson
04-14-2012, 08:39 PM
I used maxi grow by general hydroponics. Grew bananas like nobodies business.
It is easy to use and works well.
Keith
steve169
04-14-2012, 08:48 PM
Sweet, thanks! I will have to pick some up.
Zen Gardener
04-20-2012, 08:07 PM
How long did it take for your plant to produce fruit?
steve169
04-21-2012, 01:38 AM
And what was your hydro setup like?
kgbenson
04-21-2012, 06:07 AM
It never did, but through no fault of its own, i broke the system down before it had a chance.
steve169
04-22-2012, 01:07 PM
What would be the best way to get a decent sized net pot for my DC? I figure when it gets to fruiting size, the p-stem will probably around 10-12 inches or so, and the biggest I've seen is 12 inches, and I'll need room for pups. I plan on getting a 32 gallon garbage can from Ace so I'll have plenty of room.
Richard
04-22-2012, 08:21 PM
What would be the best way to get a decent sized net pot for my DC? I figure when it gets to fruiting size, the p-stem will probably around 10-12 inches or so, and the biggest I've seen is 12 inches, and I'll need room for pups. I plan on getting a 32 gallon garbage can from Ace so I'll have plenty of room.
That's a decent size. I'd leave out the net, start with a big bag of hydroton and put a coarse 1/8th inch screen over the output. As the corm grows it will push hydroton out the top so keep a 2nd bucket handy to collect it.
The nutrient formula you're aiming for is 4-4-7 or something proportional to that.
steve169
04-22-2012, 09:50 PM
That's a decent size. I'd leave out the net, start with a big bag of hydroton and put a coarse 1/8th inch screen over the output. As the corm grows it will push hydroton out the top so keep a 2nd bucket handy to collect it.
If I'm reading this correctly, your saying to forgo the net pot and just use the bag of hydroton as the netpot?
Richard
04-22-2012, 10:19 PM
If I'm reading this correctly, your saying to forgo the net pot and just use the bag of hydroton as the netpot?
Yes. The corm is going to expand tremendously over time.
steve169
04-22-2012, 10:29 PM
Gotcha. Now I just gotta figure out what to use to hold the bag up in the water....
Richard
04-22-2012, 10:51 PM
Gotcha. Now I just gotta figure out what to use to hold the bag up in the water....
You're joking ... ?
Just pour the hydroton into your tub, after screening off the output to keep pieces from going out the pipe.
steve169
04-22-2012, 11:18 PM
Forgive me for being confused, but is this what you are trying to explain:
http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg547/steve1691/th_Untitled.png
The first one is a regular DWC with a net pot and the second one is what I am understanding you to say.
DoctorSteve
04-22-2012, 11:40 PM
That bag idea is not bad. I think I will try and find some of that plastic net stuff that oranges come in.
If I have been following this correctly he will be using a deep water culture so I don't think he will have an output except for the air stone which I don't think is an output. I could be all wrong on this so if I am don't mind me.
I use a DWC to start my bananas off then I will pot them up later. I use General Hydroponics Flora Grow, works great. It is 2-1-6, the 4-4-7 may work better though. All I know is that I switched from a nutrient that used less potassium and now they are putting out roots everywhere:)
Forgive me for being confused, but is this what you are trying to explain:
http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg547/steve1691/th_Untitled.png
The first one is a regular DWC with a net pot and the second one is what I am understanding you to say.
I believe he is referring to a culture method called semi-hydro. The hydroton is an inert LECA (lightweight expanded clay aggregate) material that gives the roots something to cling to, provides body to help hold the plant upright, and allows the hydroponic liquid to flow somewhat freely. You need a container (a LARGE container for a banana) to hold the liquid and the hydroton, but there must be some sort of barrier so the hydroton stays in place and supports your plant. Hydroton is like an inert potting mix - it holds the plant/roots steady, and allows the liquid to circulate.
steve169
04-25-2012, 09:02 PM
So I transplanted the nanner to a 5 gallon bucket DWC and have some transplant shock, which I was expecting. Any idea on how long this typically lasts?
Richard
04-26-2012, 11:11 AM
So I transplanted the nanner to a 5 gallon bucket DWC and have some transplant shock, which I was expecting. Any idea on how long this typically lasts?
3 weeks.
Zen Gardener
04-26-2012, 11:33 AM
I had some transplant shock as well and had to remove some baby leaves because they got soft and brown. It is still growing though and hopefully will recover soon.
steve169
05-10-2012, 12:14 PM
so im kinda hijacking my own thread from fertilizer to progress pics, but meh.
got some new growth now after transplating to hydro
http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg547/steve1691/image4.jpg
DoctorSteve
05-10-2012, 04:15 PM
I had one that was dying for months, but holding on all it could.Bought it in October I think. Finally I switched to hydro about a month ago. It started to grow roots a week or so ago and now it is pushing up a leaf.
steve169
05-10-2012, 04:56 PM
nice. this just started new growth, probably about a quarter inch or so
brandylorton
05-23-2012, 01:50 PM
That is very nice setup here. The banana in a bucket that is something what i am watching first time.That is a real example of hydroponics. keep the good work going on dude it will show the results.
kgbenson
05-23-2012, 03:52 PM
Take a 3.5 gallon plastic bucket. Drill a huge number of holes in the bottom. Nest inside a 5 gallon bucket. rig plumbing however you like.
I used something like this: GENERAL HYDROPONICS: PowerGrower (http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/systems/powergrower/)
But based on the 3.5 inside a 5 gallon pail. Instead of an air lift it used a small fountain pump. It was terrific, low maintenance and grew the plants at light speed.
Someday I am getting one of these: GENERAL HYDROPONICS: MegaFarm (http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/systems/megafarm1/)
And putting a Saba in it. I feller can dream can't he?
Keith
steve169
05-23-2012, 06:59 PM
hasnt been doin too well lately, got a thread under health titled "chem burn?" trying to nurse it back to health right now
Zen Gardener
05-29-2012, 06:39 AM
Did you get it to come back or are you going to start over with a new plant?
brandylorton
05-29-2012, 10:03 AM
I used maxi grow. It is very good in quality and comparatively cheaper to the other brands so beneficial over all. It gives great results and plant are growing beautifully.
steve169
05-29-2012, 10:32 AM
still workin on it, got some aquashield and some general organics fert from a local place but i was out of town over the weekend and it seems like it got worse. im gonna keep goin though.
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