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HoaNui
02-25-2012, 06:15 PM
Has anyone used this liquid on their bananas or any other plant for that matter? If you have what were the results, if any, did you have? Do you think it worked at all?
Superthrive Root Stimulator (http://www.superthrive.com/plantvitamins1/superthrive1.html)
nannerfunboi
02-25-2012, 06:56 PM
ive used superthrive for yrs.. the bottle seems a bit
snake oil like..LOL but i believe i have good results in
transplanting everything from my tropicals,vegys,other
plants i put out..
HoaNui
02-25-2012, 07:05 PM
I've used it on some of my orchids but whether it did any good or now I don't know. I think I've had more success with my home-made seaweed extract.
Richard
02-25-2012, 07:37 PM
It's a combination of 3 hormonal extracts including seaweed. Holds the world record for most advertising per square inch on a label. It's true that it contains a lot of micronutrients but they have not been normalized for plants. Over-use can lead to plants exhausting themselves. Getting a balanced fertilizer is a better approach for both the plants and your pocket book.
HoaNui
02-25-2012, 07:45 PM
Yes, I stupidly paid £8.99 for a tiny bottle but then went to the beach and collected seaweed that seems to give the a better boost of nutrients.
Darkman
02-25-2012, 09:47 PM
I've used it when planting palms as recommended by the seller. He said he uses it everytime he plants a palm. Does it work? I don't know but the palms lived! :ha:
oakshadows
02-26-2012, 07:14 PM
Richard, What is your idea of a balanced fertilizer? We do organics as much as possible and have read of many ideas on the subject. It seems that there isn't really one thought on what is the best. Ferts are a subject that attracts all since it is needed to produce a harvest, but we want a quality harvest with the taste one doesn't get at the local supermarket. Thanks
gaberoo
02-26-2012, 08:11 PM
I agree with oakshadows...there is no one balanced fertilizer for all plants. Here in south florida a general fruit fertilizer is 8-3-9 (some also use 6-6-6).
Several landscapers I've spoken to also use SuperThrive...whether it works or not...who knows?
I've used it to protect plants from a cold snap and they've done well this winter (we also have not had that many cold weather days).
saltydad
02-26-2012, 08:13 PM
I've used it sparingly for years, especially when rooting. Love it.
Richard
02-26-2012, 09:45 PM
Richard, What is your idea of a balanced fertilizer? We do organics as much as possible and have read of many ideas on the subject. It seems that there isn't really one thought on what is the best. Ferts are a subject that attracts all since it is needed to produce a harvest, but we want a quality harvest with the taste one doesn't get at the local supermarket. Thanks
I was referring specifically to micronutrients. They need to be present in certain ratios with each other -- too much or too little of one can (and often does) inhibit the uptake of another.
Most fruits sold in supermarkets are not tree-ripened but instead picked unripe and brought "to color" and texture by gassing them in a warehouse. Hence the poor taste. It is this very reason that I encourage people to grow their own fruits and vegetables or at least purchase them from a local farmers' market.
I agree with oakshadows...there is no one balanced fertilizer for all plants.
I agree completely. However, a complete balanced water-soluble fertilizer for citrus grown in soil will have the correct proportions of nutrients and no contradicting imbalances of micronutrients. Such a thing is also available as an organic formula in liquid form.
In summary, the reason I brought up micronutrients in the first place was to point out the misleading statements regarding them on the label of Superthrive when the actual benefit of the product is in the 3 hormones it contains.
gaberoo
02-26-2012, 10:44 PM
Agree Richard. I really didn't read all of the tiny print on the bottle of Superthrive (I bought it on faith because landscape people said that's what many nurseries used in order to guarantee plants...I haven't actually verified this with any nurseries though). It has also gotten some rave reviews by many hydroponics people (I won't ask what exactly they grow with it...I'll just assume it is vegetables and fruits).
One of the most complete (when it comes to micronutrients) fertilizers I've heard experienced plant people talk about is palm fertilizer (it is rather expensive though). I'm sure every plant has its own ideal "mix" though.
For instance, some mango people recommend only potassium for the trees (at least during most of the fertilization schedules).
For my own scant banana collection I just use the "superfruiter" that I buy in 50 lb bags at my local fertilizer company (Atlantic Fertilizer Company) and I'm not even very constant in its use (not too worried about getting any bananas yet...more focused on the rest of my yard and happy enough that the banana plants are growing well).
Back to Superthrive...it is expensive at around 120$ per gallon (but I feel better if I can give the young tropicals a better chance at surviving occasional winter frosts till they can become established and survive on their own). I wasn't aware of that "exhaustion" problem with using it too frequently so I'd appreciate any references you have so that I may look into this problem further.
sunfish
02-26-2012, 10:57 PM
superthrive question - Citrus Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/citrus/msg0520013125812.html)
Richard
02-27-2012, 01:40 AM
Agree Richard. I really didn't read all of the tiny print on the bottle of Superthrive
it could take a very long time :ha:
landscape people said that's what many nurseries used in order to guarantee plants
I haven't heard of that practice by nurseries in the western U.S. or even the larger online mail-order suppliers of plants -- many of whom are my customers. But ... its possible that some do it.
More typically they will use (a) EDDHA chelated 6% iron at about 0.2 grams per gallon, or (b) 20-20-20 at 100ppm Nitrogen.
One of the most complete (when it comes to micronutrients) fertilizers I've heard experienced plant people talk about is palm fertilizer (it is rather expensive though).
The most sought-after complete ornamental palm fertilizer is 18-6-18 with secondary and micronutrients tuned for true ornamental palms (not cycads). A 25-lb bag sells retail for about $37. That would be enough to feed 25 full-size palms in the ground for at least 2 years.
I'm sure every plant has its own ideal "mix" though.
It's not quite so fine as that -- there are several groupings that have more to do with the soils and ecology that the plants evolved in: Peaches and Che for example.
For instance, some mango people recommend only potassium for the trees (at least during most of the fertilization schedules).
There is more than one approach to delivering nutrients to plants -- and in a low-budget orchard operation they will bring in container-loads of certain minerals at different times of year. It is not necessarily the ideal way feed the orchard, but it is sufficient.
Back to Superthrive...it is expensive at around 120$ per gallon
Wholesale to distributors in pallet quantities it is about $10 per gallon. It is a consumer product -- not an agricultural product.
fmu65
02-27-2012, 08:10 AM
The garden center I work for sells it and we use it in the nutrient bath for our bareroot roses prior to planting them. I have read the whole label, and if you don't, you aren't missing anything. That has always lead me to believe it was snakeoil because there is no listing of active ingredients on the label or the manufacturer's website. I haven't used it myself, so thank you Tony for posting that citrus forum thread because it was interesting to read what the one person found out by doing a loose experiment of their own.
sunfish
02-27-2012, 08:32 AM
I think maybe superthrive would give plants, cuttings a little boost maybe but that's about it.It's probably a little better than nothing.
gaberoo
02-27-2012, 01:20 PM
Interesting stuff about Superthrive. Still, it seems like it does help (maybe not to the degree the advertising says, but enough to have some people notice a difference). Must be the auxins.
Wow! What a difference between wholesale price and retail!
So Richard...where can I get that other "stuff" (the chelated...) that some nurseries use to protect their wares?
My bigger question is: is there anything out there more effective than Superthrive? Say...some auxin or other plant hormone just as "effective" but much cheaper? Any other combo folks have found as an alternative to Superthrive?
oakshadows
02-27-2012, 01:28 PM
Indole Acetic Acid 99% IAA 5 grams Auxin | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Indole-Acetic-Acid-99-IAA-5-grams-Auxin-/220739119102?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336513a7fe)
Try looking at this.
sunfish
02-27-2012, 01:28 PM
Organic alternative to Superthrive? - Grasscity.com Forums (http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/657285-organic-alternative-superthrive.html)
If not superthrive, what during transplanting? (http://www.bonsaitreeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?21143-If-not-superthrive-what-during-transplanting)
Super Thrive Alternatives? - Plumeria Forum (http://plumeriaforum.com/index.php?/topic/931-super-thrive-alternatives/)
HoaNui
02-27-2012, 01:39 PM
Auxins, I have been told, have to be handled with care as they are suspected of causing, or do cause, cancer.
sunfish
02-27-2012, 02:50 PM
SUPERthrive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUPERthrive)
:woohoonaner:
Richard
02-27-2012, 02:54 PM
Interesting stuff about Superthrive. Still, it seems like it does help (maybe not to the degree the advertising says, but enough to have some people notice a difference).
I haven't said it doesn't work! I said the benefits are in the hormones. :08:
So Richard...where can I get that other "stuff" (the chelated...) that some nurseries use to protect their wares?
Most of the retail nurseries, retail nursery chains, and retail garden departments in box stores and department stores that I'm familiar with do not fertilize their plants. It is the wholesale grower-supplier nursery that has fed them -- hopefully enough to sustain them long enough for the retail store to sell. If not, then the nursery manager at the store simply picks a product off their store shelf, marks it "spoiled" for accounting purposes, and then feeds any plants in need.
A grower-supplier (especially large internet seller) may give their plant a supplement of iron prior to shipping. You can find chelated iron supplements in most nursery stores (organic and inorganic versions) in powder and liquid forms. The best of the powders is the inorganic EDDHA chelate, the best of the liquids is the organic Iron chelated in wood sugars (typically labeled ligno-sulfate).
My bigger question is: is there anything out there more effective than Superthrive? Say...some auxin or other plant hormone just as "effective" but much cheaper? Any other combo folks have found as an alternative to Superthrive?
This begs the question of why use the product in the first place. It is not a fertilizer, it is a hormone supplement. If you want to supply your plants with nutrients, then first and foremost feed them a balanced complete fertilizer designed for its needs. If for some reason you then want to give it a hormone boost, then the Superthrive formulation contains the correct balance to stimulate the plant without shutting off the hormonal signals. As with any plant supplement, follow the directions because as I previously stated you can overstimulate the plant to the point of death.
For professional and agricultural growers, they will take two different approaches.
An ornamental plant grower-supplier will use a hormone supplement that regulates growth, particularly to shorten inter-nodal lengths in shoots. These are widely used in ornamental horticulture along with systemic pesticides from the plug stage on up -- this is why you should be careful not to purchase an edible herb from the ornamental plant section of a retail nursery. Typically, the grower-supplied tag on the plant will say "not for human consumption".
The growers of agricultural crops are more often interested in growth enhancement. Seaweed extract is commonly used both for transplanting and enhancement of budding on some fruit crops (Avocados and tomatoes for example). Superthrive itself is the analog of an agricultural product called BioCozyme which has an NPK rating of 2-2-2 (not to be confused with hydroponic versions). Beyond that, there are hormonal "cocktails" that a specific grower contracts with a fertilizer manufacturer to make for their crop which are essentially trade secrets. You will not find them advertised or for sale anywhere. Further, they are way beyond the scope and budget of most homeowners.
Dalmatiansoap
02-27-2012, 03:43 PM
SUPERthrive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUPERthrive)
:woohoonaner:
many better ways to use your money I say:ha:
sunfish
02-27-2012, 05:29 PM
many better ways to use your money I say:ha:
Terra-One Thicker Pasture, Livestock & Fish, Hollister, MO 65672 - products (http://www.terraonethickerpasture.com/Products.html)
sunfish
02-27-2012, 05:34 PM
Natural Fertilizer - New Natural Fertilizer Makes Plants Grow Like Crazy (http://www.growlikecrazy.com/)
Richard
02-27-2012, 05:37 PM
Terra-One Thicker Pasture, Livestock & Fish, Hollister, MO 65672 - products (http://www.terraonethickerpasture.com/Products.html)
Geez, maybe I should raise the wholesale price of my 25-lb bags of mycorrhizae by 100-fold and start offering bank financing. :ha:
oakshadows
02-27-2012, 05:51 PM
Auxins, I have been told, have to be handled with care as they are suspected of causing, or do cause, cancer.
IAA is a growth regulator and is used the same as Thrive, to stimulate the root growth. The one you maybe thinking of is the one used in agent orange. IAA is recognized as beening safe and is used by many growers. It is also expensive but a little goes a long way and is much less costly than Thrive. Do some googleing and see if it is for you. Good luck.
saltydad
02-28-2012, 01:22 AM
Messenger used to be the next best hope.
HoaNui
02-28-2012, 04:26 AM
IAA is a growth regulator and is used the same as Thrive, to stimulate the root growth. The one you maybe thinking of is the one used in agent orange. IAA is recognized as beening safe and is used by many growers. It is also expensive but a little goes a long way and is much less costly than Thrive. Do some googleing and see if it is for you. Good luck.
Non-the-less it is still thought to cause cancer. I think I'll stay clear of agent orange. ;)
Richard
02-28-2012, 12:49 PM
Auxins, I have been told, have to be handled with care as they are suspected of causing, or do cause, cancer.
HuaNui, I believe you have confused two Auxins.
IBA (3-Indole Butyric Acid ) is commonly used in root stimulants. Its use on edible crops is outlawed. For example, check out most jars of "rooting gel" and you'll find (a) they contain IAB and (b) there is a warning label not to use on plants grown for human consumption. It has been linked to cancer in mammals.
IAA (Indole-3-acetic acid) is a plant growth regulator. It is commonly used to reduce inter-node lengths on shoots; i.e., produce more compact plants. Repeated studies have shown that it is not carcinogenic (http://potency.berkeley.edu/chempages/INDOLE-3-ACETIC%20ACID.html) -- in fact it is the study of anti-cancer research. For example: http://ostein.com.ne.kr/pubs/FEBS.pdf
gaberoo
02-28-2012, 01:16 PM
I actually was looking for any help (Superthrive in this case) in protecting my plants from the occasional upper 20's we have experienced in the last two or three years in South Florida (specially my newly planted stuff which might well survive once established, but could fare poorly when new). A landscaper told me about Superthrive. But if I can get the same results spending a lot less...I'm all for that!
gaberoo
02-28-2012, 01:20 PM
I read (somewhere) or was told that Superthrive would protect the plants (make them hardier down to one zone: so instead of tolerating cold from a 9 zone, the plants would be hardier down to an 8 zone).
I had several plants/trees die on me during one of these cold snaps (one of them being a 6 foot neem tree). I'd like to prevent that from happening again.
How Superthrive supposedly does this I do not know. Does it help the plants become established quicker by helping develop the root system? Is this the mechanism?
Richard
02-28-2012, 02:20 PM
I read (somewhere) or was told that Superthrive would protect the plants (make them hardier down to one zone: so instead of tolerating cold from a 9 zone, the plants would be hardier down to an 8 zone).
I've never heard such a claim about any product.
HoaNui
02-28-2012, 03:32 PM
I read (somewhere) or was told that Superthrive would protect the plants (make them hardier down to one zone: so instead of tolerating cold from a 9 zone, the plants would be hardier down to an 8 zone).
I had several plants/trees die on me during one of these cold snaps (one of them being a 6 foot neem tree). I'd like to prevent that from happening again.
How Superthrive supposedly does this I do not know. Does it help the plants become established quicker by helping develop the root system? Is this the mechanism?
I would think that a general change in DNA would be needed along with a restructure and re-run of evolution for this to happen.
gaberoo
02-28-2012, 11:21 PM
Then I must have heard wrong (or maybe it was another product...I know I did look at products that might be able to do this). I'm sorry if I was mistaken...I did not want to lead anyone in the forum the wrong way.
In any case, I guess there is no product that offers greater cold resistance to plants.
gaberoo
02-28-2012, 11:50 PM
SuperThrive (http://palmsnorthwest.com/superthrive.html)
Actually, I did find some reference to this "cold protection" given by using SuperThrive (whether it really works or not I do not know...).
Companion Plants
Cannas
Palms and plants can sometimes go through a rough stretch that causes stress and shock to the plant. The most common of these stresses is transplanting and harsh weather conditions. Now it's time to reach for the bottle.
The bottle of Superthrive that is, it is an amazing product that revitalizes the plant even in the worst conditions. We have used Superthrive for the last ten years when digging up palms and moving to a new location. It has worked every time and it's easy to use.
Palm Shock Treatment
This works well for transplant and winter recovery.
Here is what you need to do:
Buy a bottle of Superthrive ( about $7.- )
In a clean 5 gallon bucket, mix two capfuls of Superthrive and fill with water. In a different clean bucket, drill a 3/16" hole on one side of the bottom of a bucket and fill the bucket with 1/2 of the Superthrive mixture. Set the bucket next to the tree and let it drain. After it has drained, repeat the process on the other side of the tree. This technique reduces run off. Do this again every 2 weeks through the summer. This should save the tree.
For trees in containers or under 5 feet overall height, reduce the treatment by half.
Apple a Day
Normal watering with Superthrive can be done at any time by adding 1 to 2 drops to a gallon of water. You will see a faster growth rate and a healthier plant.
Superthrive is NOT a fertilizer! You need to keep your fertilizing regimen going along with the Superthrive.
Lutz Palm Tree Fertilizer Spikes
Palm Watering:
This is for a palm of 6 feet of height, adjust down to half or less for smaller palms:
We give the Palm 4 gallons of water a week spread over 3 days when temps are under 70º, 4 gallons at twice a week with temps over 70º under 85º, and 4 gallons every other day for temps above 85º. Remember that rain counts.
The best way to water is slowly, if your soil can't absorb the water at the rate your watering then you're just wasting water. I like the automatic drip systems. They irrigate at a very slow rate and you don't have to remember to water.
Palm Fertilizing:
Palms need to be fertilized at least for the first three years they are put into a landscape just like any other plant. Here is what we suggest:
Lutz Palm Tree Fertilizer Spikes work very well supplying the micronutrients that palms require for a healthy start in your landscape. We sell these and they are very easy to apply, driving them into the ground with a hammer. We call this guy gardening.
There are some granulated fertilizers available in the area but none better than the Lutz spikes. Do not use "Whitney Farms Palm Food", it does not have the micronutrients that palms need.
Palms in pots or containers need to be fertilized twice a year for as long as they are in the pots.
Please contact me with any questions you may have
Ric Banchero Ric@palmsnorthwest.com
Copyright 2011 This site designed and maintained by Ric & Delight Banchero
gaberoo
02-29-2012, 10:25 AM
And here is another mention of Superthrive being used for cold protection (from another palm grower...it must work for them).
Steve Stern
Exotic Palms
25000 S.W. 152 Avenue
Miami, FL 33157
305-246-3125
rarepalm@bellsouth.com
Exotic Palms: Home (http://www.rarepalm.com)
RED SEALING WAX PALM (Cyrtostachys Renda)
So named because a red wax was obtained by boiling down the red petioles which was then used by nobility for imprinting a seal on documents and letters.
This palm requires very specific care for it to do well in Florida.
Do not under any circumstances plant this palm before the beginning of April.
This palm, while in a container, must be kept protected from cold weather. When the temperature is going to be below 48 degrees, bring the palm in. If this is not possible, push the palm up against the house, well protected from cold wind, wrap the post with a blanket or heating pad or use a halogen light as a heat source.
You must, must use fungicide.
During the winter, you must spray the palm with a Mancozeb based fungicide once a month in December, January, February and March. Make certain that you fully saturate the base of the palm making certain it gets down into the leaf sheaths and all the small suckers, as well as the soil itself. It is best to spray when the outside temperature is below 70 degrees.
(Red Sealing Wax palms are susceptible to a cold weather fungus that is easily controlled by this spraying).
ECOSANE, SUPERTHRIVE & MANCOZEB
According to DeArmand Hull of the Dade County Extension Service, Ecosane, when sprayed on plants once a month, improves their cold hardiness considerably. It appears to be a wonderful product for all your plants, but especially Red Sealing Wax. Ecosane is exceptionally difficult to locate. As a substitute, “Superthrive” is excellent and is available at better garden centers. Mancozeb fungicide is available at Ace Hardware and also at Galloway Nurseries on Galloway Road (87th Avenue) and Sunset Drive under the trade name Dithane. Ecosane is available at a little nursery on 97th Avenue, jus north of Sunset Drive, called Earnesto’s Good Earth.
These palms love filtered light or light morning sun. They also need plenty of water. Water 3 – 4 times a week. Use Miracle Grow fertilizer, in a light application, twice a month wetting the leaves as well as drenching the soil. Every now and then use in addition, but not during the same week, Miracid Fertilizer.
MANCOZEB IS THE SAME AS DITHANE
Richard
02-29-2012, 11:02 AM
And here is another mention of Superthrive being used for cold protection (from another palm grower...it must work for them).
Steve Stern
Exotic Palms
25000 S.W. 152 Avenue
Miami, FL ...
Miami FL is in USDA cold hardiness zone 10b, a near-tropic zone. Assisting palms there with the "cold" is very different from assisting plants in a zone where it freezes regularly.
gaberoo
02-29-2012, 11:50 AM
I agree. But the context I was using (in my particular case) is to protect other plants (heliconias, neem, bananas, etc.) from temps that had dipped into the upper 20's. Remembering this a bit more clearly, it was when a bright, young landscape architect (and owner of a successful landscaping business) took a look at my yard (this was after a few episodes of temps into the upper 20s and lower 30s) and made a few comments regarding what to do to protect the plants from cold. One of the tips was to use Superthrive (the first time I'd ever heard the product mentioned...he was the one who mentioned that some nurseries used it to "guarantee" their plants). I never verified whether nurseries actually do this (and there must be some that do) nor whether this is a widespread practice (from your comments Richard, apparently it is not).
Before buying it however, I remember having searched to see what other people who've used it (use it) say about their experience (including some people in a hydroponics forum) with Superthrive and it had been, for the most part, positive...so I went ahead and bought some.
That said, I'm always open to try new things (products, methods, etc), specially if they save me money, and I'm very grateful to read all of your comments/input on these (and other matters).
So I now have a few more things I can try out (less expensive auxins, chelated iron, etc). I also know not to go crazy with the Superthrive (I did not know that overuse of it could cause defoliation and plant exhaustion/death).
Thanks again for your patience. I have a few more questions (regarding other topics) so maybe I should learn (relearn) how to post a new topic.
gaberoo
02-29-2012, 11:55 AM
Oh...forgot...I did come across some product called FreezePruf (or something like that), but could not find enough comments (regarding whether it actually works) for me to take a chance and buy it.
sunfish
02-29-2012, 12:00 PM
http://www.bananas.org/f15/freezepruf-its-here-9288.html?highlight=FreezePruf
Richard
02-29-2012, 12:22 PM
Some sellers of plants would like to stretch the limits of temperature zones so that you'll buy their plants. On the other hand, there are also companies out there with an elixir to cure your gout (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001459/) and protect your plants against various maladies. In some cases they actually work.
If you want to explore growing tropical and near-tropical plants in a cold environment, then check in with our member Raules, who grows bananas and other delights in ... (dramatic pause) ... Siberia. You can locate his posts and photos here: Bananas.org - View Profile: Raules (http://www.bananas.org/member-raules.html)
gaberoo
02-29-2012, 12:43 PM
Some sellers of plants would like to stretch the limits of temperature zones so that you'll buy their plants. On the other hand, there are also companies out there with an elixir to cure your gout (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001459/) and protect your plants against various maladies. In some cases they actually work.
If you want to explore growing tropical and near-tropical plants in a cold environment, then check in with our member Raules, who grows bananas and other delights in ... (dramatic pause) ... Siberia. You can locate his posts and photos here: Bananas.org - View Profile: Raules (http://www.bananas.org/member-raules.html)
Thank you Richard. I may contact Raules and ask him about his experience, however I think I'm going to limit myself to planting things that are close to my hardiness zone (I am tempted to try out some fully tropical palms, but am prepared to face negative results...FreezePruf notwithstanding).
Sunfish, thank you for the thread on FreezePruf...I haven't finished reading it entirely, but it seems at least a few people have gotten good results with it (it isn't that expensive either from what I saw). Maybe it's worth a "second look"?
john_ny
02-29-2012, 02:04 PM
I have Freezpruf sprayed on some basjoos, which are outside, covered up. I figure on uncovering them in about 4-5 weeks. I'll take some pictures then.
paulorph
02-29-2012, 03:16 PM
Some people in original thread wondered if Poly Ethylene Glycol PEG is toxic. It is not. This is a long chain molecule that cannot pass thru gut wall. It is an osmotic laxitive. Because it does not get absorbed the body pushes more water into the intestine because of osmotic difference. PEG that is available over the counter is glycolax. This chain is only 3500 long. If the Peg in this product is 8000 long then it would be that much harder. I dont know know too much about plant absorbtion but I would have a hard time believing that much could be internal to the plant. But I dont know because plants are different than people. I also have hard time believing that it could make too much difference. I think 5 degrees may be possible but not much more. So, it would not be able to help many people.
Iunepeace
05-20-2012, 07:52 PM
I've used it on some of my orchids but whether it did any good or now I don't know. I think I've had more success with my home-made seaweed extract.
How do you make said seaweed extract? :D
oakshadows
05-20-2012, 08:18 PM
Some sellers of plants would like to stretch the limits of temperature zones so that you'll buy their plants. On the other hand, there are also companies out there with an elixir to cure your gout (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001459/) and protect your plants against various maladies. In some cases they actually work.
If you want to explore growing tropical and near-tropical plants in a cold environment, then check in with our member Raules, who grows bananas and other delights in ... (dramatic pause) ... Siberia. You can locate his posts and photos here: Bananas.org - View Profile: Raules (http://www.bananas.org/member-raules.html)
Names and location are deceiving sometimes, Although it is, BRRRRRRRRRRR.. Siberia, it is still zone 8. His accomplishment are worthy of praise along with his experience. Along with his experience and location the greenhouse he works in looks very nice to me even here in sunny Florida. One can achieve what one wants if one has the finances and will to do so.
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