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The Hollyberry Lady
11-06-2011, 08:40 PM
I'm trying to decide a proper way to aproach street photography and would like to know what different people's reactions would be to the following scenario:
How would you react if a stranger approached you in public with a camera in their hands pointed at you, snapping an unexpected photo?
What if they were friendly and smiled, even complimenting something of yours before walking on?
Would you be ok with it or would you be angry? Would you ask them to delete the photo or allow them to walk away? Would you confront the photographer in any way? Perhaps you'd maybe feel honored that the person saw you as someone interesting enough to take a picture of?
It's ok to be perfectly honest. ;)
Thanks in advance.
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Jananas Bananas
11-06-2011, 08:55 PM
It would make me very, very uncomfortable and I would feel like it was invading my privacy. It wouldn't matter if they were friendly or smiling to me or not. If they asked first and I had the option of saying yes or no BEFORE the picture was taken I might be more receptive, but I doubt it and I personally would say no. If the picture was taken anyway or without asking, just plain rude! IMO
~JaNan
The Hollyberry Lady
11-07-2011, 01:44 PM
Yeah, thanks for your input Janan. I think I feel much the same as you.
Guess it's back to sneak shots! :ha:
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Jananas Bananas
11-07-2011, 01:52 PM
Sherry, I wasn't trying to discourage you, though it sounded that way. That is how I would feel about it. You never know what a person has going on in their lives and how they would react. What if the person was a sex offender and followed you? Or mental problems and attack you and destroy your camera? Even a playful beautiful child, the Mother might be resentful and certainly if they thought that photo might be published on the internet. You just never know the circumstances with strangers.
Here's a question back at you. What is your Mom's opinion on this? How would she feel if a stranger photographed her? This may be my over protective Motherly instinct on guard and I was just curious about another Mother's opinion.
~J
The Hollyberry Lady
11-07-2011, 01:59 PM
I totally agree with you Janan. That's why I started this thread because I wanted to know what other people thought about it.
My mom doesn't think I should do it and has the same worries as you do. Me too. I do not want to be confronted and frankly if someone snapped my shot, they WOULD be confronted! I'd be pissed!
I'd likely say something like "what the hell do you think you're doing, pal"?! :ha:
For real though, I wouldn't like it. I would immediately think it was a sex pervert if it was a guy.
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fmu65
11-08-2011, 08:02 AM
Also, if you are going to publish the photos in any way (internet, art project, etc) you would legally need a signed release to prevent any future litigation. Aside from that, I would also be uncomfortable if some just randomly took my photo. Whenever I have been in public trying to photograph an event or something else that piqued my attention, I try my best to not get people in the shots unless it is a large crowd shot and people are indistinguishable. Those pictures are always for my private collection of memories of events or places.
Also remember there are several religions that prohibit or inhibit having one's photo taken, so I also try to be senstive to that.
Just curious, do you have a project you are doing this for?
momoese
11-08-2011, 10:37 AM
Also, if you are going to publish the photos in any way (internet, art project, etc) you would legally need a signed release to prevent any future litigation.
Not true. You are fair game when out in public. The photographer has the right to do anything they wish with your photo, even for profit. You can ask them to delete the photo but can not demand anything.
And I would not care myself about someone taking my photo. As a matter of fact it's been happening frequently to me while surf fishing. People, probably tourists, are constantly taking photos and I believe video of me as well. Some ask some don't. I don't care at all.
I think location (geographically speaking) makes a difference in peoples feeling about being photographed. In LA most people if asked would probably like it because we are a bunch of attention whores here. :ha:
Permissible Subjects
Despite misconceptions to the con- trary, the following subjects can almost always be photographed law- fully from public places:
accident and fire scenes children celebrities bridges and other infrastructure residential and commercial buildings industrial facilities and public utilities transportation facilities (e.g., airports) Superfund sites
criminal activities law enforcement officers
Bert P. Krages Attorney at Law Photographer's Rights Page (http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm)
momoese
11-08-2011, 11:08 AM
Here is another informative read.
Basically the only thing you can't profit from is someone's "likeness" It's a gray area that favors the photographer. If you are in a public area your fair game. If I take an up close and personal shot and I plan to sell it or use it in a commercial way then a release is necessary, but not just for sharing (displaying) or for editorial uses (news)
Misinformation about your photography rights continues to spread - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2006-08-11-photography-rights_x.htm)
The Hollyberry Lady
11-08-2011, 01:19 PM
Wow, that's just amazing Mitchel. I had no idea it really was legal. The restrictions sound reasonable to me. It gives me a new perspective and a different way of looking at this.
I just want to avoid a punch in the nose!!! :ha:
I guess if it's perfectly legal to take the shots, then it's a matter of courtesy and politeness. Given the way a lot of people feel about it though, would it be right to just do it anyway?
Although it sounds shadey and really completely not my way, as I prefer just being direct and upfront, I still think I am most comfortable with taking shots on the sly! It's better this way and no one is offended. No one would think I was creepy if they thought I was aiming my camera at them...I have an innocent look about me. :D Plus I just act like I'm shooting past them on the few occasions that I did get some dirty looks....mostly from women. I find men are a lot more easy going.
I guess if someone asked me if I would mind them taking a shot of me, I might let them. But I would have to be in charge of the picture and how I would look. I'd also have to see it after it was taken. I hate surprise shots.
In the summer when I first got to the cottage I was at the beach this one super hot day, swimming. I was wearing a two-piece bathing suit and thought I saw some man aiming his camera at me. I just ducked down under the water and turned around so he could get a lovely shot of the back of my wet head! Not sure if he really was shooting me but I thought he might have been. To me, if he was, this is considered creepy and perverted.
Nope Fmu65, it's not a project. It's my for my own personal interest and enjoyment. ;) The fact of the matter is...people make terrific subjects. :goteam:
So Mitch, have you actually taken any shots of anyone? I'd love to see.
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momoese
11-08-2011, 01:47 PM
So Mitch, have you actually taken any shots of anyone? I'd love to see.
Not yet, been waiting to buy a different lens and find a street shooting partner or group. Safety in numbers! Also surf fishing has been taking a lot of my free time.
Here is a set that Marc has done over the years. He's one of my favorite local street photogs. I've chatted with him so I know what he uses to get the bokeh. Not sure if or when I'll be able to afford the lens I want.
When you open the link just click the little tab that says slideshow right above the photos. It's worth the time to watch it! :)
The Lyrical Streets - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/koolgreen/sets/72157612071284387/)
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Jack Daw
11-08-2011, 01:55 PM
Honey, you have to ask people first to get pictures of them. Many will allow you to capture the moment, but only if you do it in a very polite way.
I personally would not hesitate to to take the camera and erase the entire memory, not just my picture. ;)
momoese
11-08-2011, 02:06 PM
Honey, you have to ask people first to get pictures of them. Many will allow you to capture the moment, but only if you do it in a very polite way.
No you don't, read the law.
I personally would not hesitate to to take the camera and erase the entire memory, not just my picture. ;)
And I'd break your fingers :ha:
The Hollyberry Lady
11-08-2011, 02:17 PM
Jack darling, if you did something like that to my memory card, you'd be the one getting the punch in the nose! :ha:
Now now Mitchel...enough of your feeble excuses! http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/hollyberrylady08/2nd%20album/emo1.gif
Sorry to keep razzing ya but I think you're stalling! You don't want to get a punch in the nose either! :ha:
Those slides were fantastic. Boy that guy's got some nerve snapping those pics. Some of those guys look pretty rough! I'd be afraid I could be mugged...or shot! :eek: I laughed at some of the expressions though. Too funny.
You've got good enough lenses now to snap a shot of someone's mug, Mitchel. C'mon just one...please. :D
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Jack Daw
11-08-2011, 02:30 PM
No you don't, read the law.
That's what it says. Remember, we don't have the same laws. ;)
And I'd break your fingers :ha:
An eye for an eye is the phrase. ;) Not an eye for an eye for an eye. :08:
momoese
11-08-2011, 02:34 PM
That's what it says. Remember, we don't have the same laws. ;)
An eye for an eye is the phrase. ;) Not an eye for an eye for an eye. :08:
Your laws suck :ha:
Jack Daw
11-08-2011, 02:36 PM
Your laws suck :ha:
In many respects, yes. But I wouldn't say your laws are bett... uhm DMCA... er. ;) :D
When you open the link just click the little tab that says slideshow right above the photos. It's worth the time to watch it! :)
The Lyrical Streets - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/koolgreen/sets/72157612071284387/)
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Sorry to be rude, but aren't there also normal people in the streets where those pix where taken? I mean... come on.. What is that?
Those looks, those faces, those people? :D Wow.
No respect to privacy. And he called the picture nobody. His only luck is that the guy in the picture will most probably never see himslef on the net.
nobody | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/koolgreen/4416034020/in/set-72157612071284387/)
momoese
11-08-2011, 02:52 PM
In many respects, yes. But I wouldn't say your laws are bett... uhm DMCA... er. ;) :D
Sorry to be rude, but aren't there also normal people in the streets where those pix where taken? I mean... come on.. What is that?
Those looks, those faces, those people? :D Wow.
No respect to privacy. And he called the picture nobody. His only luck is that the guy in the picture will most probably never see himslef on the net.
nobody | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/koolgreen/4416034020/in/set-72157612071284387/)
Koolgreen AKA Marc shoots mostly the downtown LA and Venice Beach areas. I think he shows a pretty good cross section of the more interesting looking people. I don't always agree with shooting homeless but most that do offer them some small token of appreciation.
As for normal....you mean boring, bland, non-exciting people who make for bland photos? :ha:
momoese
11-08-2011, 02:54 PM
No respect to privacy. And he called the picture nobody. His only luck is that the guy in the picture will most probably never see himslef on the net.
nobody | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/koolgreen/4416034020/in/set-72157612071284387/)
He calls it the name of the song. All the photos in that set are set to songs.
The Hollyberry Lady
11-08-2011, 02:55 PM
Yeah, it's better to shoot people that are interesting in some way and let's face it...weird and strange looking people are interesting.
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momoese
11-08-2011, 02:58 PM
In many respects, yes. But I wouldn't say your laws are bett... uhm DMCA... er. ;) :D
RIAA Admits It Wants DMCA Overhaul; Blames Judges For 'Wrong' Interpretation | Techdirt (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111108/00352916675/riaa-admits-it-wants-dmca-overhaul-blames-judges-wrong-interpretation.shtml)
momoese
11-08-2011, 03:04 PM
Read this HBL
Photographer's Rights - in Canada - Photo.net Street & Documentary Forum (http://photo.net/street-documentary-photography-forum/009s0V)
The Hollyberry Lady
11-08-2011, 03:04 PM
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/hollyberrylady08/3rd%20album/IMG_2400-1.jpg
Like this guy for instance that I shot one day at the beach. He looked to me like he was someone I could get some good grass from! :ha: :ha: :ha:
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momoese
11-08-2011, 03:07 PM
Looks like he could be a sailor/fisherman type.
momoese
11-08-2011, 03:20 PM
A couple videos from a local guy.
Street Photography With the Leica M9 and GoPro HD 960 in Los Angeles - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jky3cV6eLPY)
How to React to (and Defuse) Confrontations in Street Photography - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbHnZ7Y5UQs)
The Hollyberry Lady
11-08-2011, 03:21 PM
I never saw him fishing but I did see him jogging down the beach one day, wearing nothing but a speedo! It was honestly one of the funniest things I ever saw and I had to turn around so he wouldn't see me laughing. I nearly peed my pants! :ha: He has a long ratty braid ponytail down to his arse! Oh how I wished I had my camera with me that day. You guys would have been in complete stitches. There definitely are some characters out there, that's for sure.
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