View Full Version : Storing bananas for winter!!! UGH!!!
Randy4ut
10-25-2011, 01:14 AM
That time of year again and this past week, the more tender bananas were dug an prepped for storing under the house. This included mysore, golden aromatic, saba, rose, ice cream, zebrinus, and praying hands. Just thought I would share what I get to work with this year and hopefully have a great jump on 2012 season!!!
Here are my two clumps of praying hands. The first is in the back of this bed.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2011%20October%20around%20the%20yard/2011Octoberaroundtheyard001.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2011%20October%20around%20the%20yard/2011Octoberaroundtheyard004.jpg
Here are the two largest pstems: (son-in-law is 6'1" for scale)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2011%20October%20around%20the%20yard/2011Octoberaroundtheyard001-1.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2011%20October%20around%20the%20yard/2011Octoberaroundtheyard003-1.jpg
Here are the smaller praying hands that will go into storage:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2011%20October%20around%20the%20yard/2011Octoberaroundtheyard002-1.jpg
This is why praying hands are one of my favorites! Leaves are remarkable in size!!! This one is over 9' in total length:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2011%20October%20around%20the%20yard/2011Octoberaroundtheyard004-1.jpg
Here are all my pstems (20+) ready for winter storage:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2011%20October%20around%20the%20yard/2011Octoberaroundtheyard005.jpg
Definitely a lot of work, but sure is nice in the summer!!!
Here's to a MILD and SHORT winter!!!
Dalmatiansoap
10-25-2011, 05:08 AM
Indeed a lot of hard work.
:nanadrink:
nannerfunboi
10-25-2011, 09:27 AM
thanks alot randy4ut..LOL
i dont have a praying hands.. sigh.. another i need.. LOL
i am totally convinced..this is an addiction.. LOL
great pics man!!!!
i too am in process of digging everything up now.. i have 2 helpers
ive potted up almost all my EE's and have over 60 pots..
the nanners (except basjoo) are comming out now too..
biggest ensetes and sabas are this week.. sigh...LOL
i have 2 on my shopping list now.. kandarain..and now praying hands
good stuff for sure !!!!
good luck to ya !!!
:woohoonaner:
momoese
10-25-2011, 02:05 PM
Yes I can see all the pictures.
caliboy1994
10-25-2011, 02:17 PM
That's a lot of nice pics! It's too bad you have to prepare for winter already though. My two Not Ice Creams are still going strong! Good luck to all of us next season! :D
And now I want to get my hands on Praying Hands! :P
CookieCows
10-25-2011, 04:11 PM
Love the pics!!
Ok you are not covering them at all. Last year I covered them up too much and they mildewed. Do you spritz them at all with any water during the winter or just let them alone?
CookieCows
10-25-2011, 04:47 PM
Another question! I see that you left small pups on one. Is that so you don't weaken it by cutting into the corm? Ric and I just sat and went through your pictures and he went out and chopped off the leaves (except the top) of about 4 and we'll try it in the basement of the old farm house but without covering them this time.
Randy4ut
10-25-2011, 07:44 PM
Deb, I have had good luck storing them under the house. I do not cover them at all and add no water to them. I do store them on plastic pallets, just to keep them off the ground and air moving around them. No light, no heat, nothing... Now some do better than others. Example, zebrinus does not store well for me at all, but this year I have a bigger clump with largest pstem pushing 6-7'. Now thats just the pstem and without any leaves... I did pot up a few other zebrinus just to make sure I have a couple for next year. As far as the pups being left on, I don't like to mess with the corm at all unless I have to due to size, like the praying hands... Now this is just my opinion and what I do so take it with a grain of salt as I am not nearly the expert that so many others on here are... Just what works for me...
CookieCows
10-25-2011, 10:26 PM
Thanks! We have wooden pallets to lay them on. (News paper office gives them out for free here)
I gotcha on the corms... the laterita pups I cut off the corm and potted became droopy and the bigger clump Ric was able to dig up are in a big pot looking like they were never disturbed!
Good luck on all yours!
Deb
CTPalm
10-27-2011, 06:06 PM
Randy - I just Brought my Orinocos in yesterday, it is snowing out right now!
What are you going to do with your Palms? Do you store the plumerias with the bananas?
Paul
Randy4ut
10-27-2011, 07:31 PM
Randy - I just Brought my Orinocos in yesterday, it is snowing out right now!
What are you going to do with your Palms? Do you store the plumerias with the bananas?
Paul
Paul, here is what I have done with the butias. They have since outgrown the 55gal. plastic barrels, so I will be doing something different this year...
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/060.jpg
150 watt heat bulb inside attached to a thermocube (on at 20F and off at 30F)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/057.jpg
Covered with frost cloth:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/065.jpg
All my other palms stay out unprotected and do fine here so far!!!
As far as my plumeria, they go in a friend's greenhouse where temps do not go below about 40F.
Wish you the best with your orinoco overwintering!!!
srash
10-29-2011, 07:09 AM
In your photos everything still looks green and healthy. How do you decide when to dig up your bananas to store them? Do you wait until a freeze warning, start when the temperature is staying below 60? Can you store them too soon? I am thinking of trying this on a couple of my ice cream and dwarf cavendish bananas.
Thanks for the great pictures.
Randy4ut
10-29-2011, 08:49 AM
In your photos everything still looks green and healthy. How do you decide when to dig up your bananas to store them? Do you wait until a freeze warning, start when the temperature is staying below 60? Can you store them too soon? I am thinking of trying this on a couple of my ice cream and dwarf cavendish bananas.
Thanks for the great pictures.
I usually would wait a bit longer but with my back becoming more valuable to me, I decided to dig these when I had my son-in-law in town to help!!! We have experienced temps drop down to the mid and upper 30's, but yet to have a killing frost. The pstems that I have dug are still in my unheated garage waiting for me to take them to a friend's house to store under his house. His crawlspace is taller than mine and a straight shot from outside, so a lot easier to get them in there than my crawlspace.
As far as digging too early, I am sure you could but with temps down to where they are, my bananas are not in active growth so I did not feel it would harm them. I suppose only time will tell...
Like I said above, the decided factor on when I dug them up was due to shear weight of the pstem/corm, and my aging back!!! LOL
thewebgal
11-02-2011, 04:01 PM
Turning cold in a hurry here near DC ... I was away at a Scottish Festival in Richmond over the weekend
and when I came back we'd had a spurt of snow and winds ... poor 'nana plant was getting beat up -
so, yesterday I pulled it from the pot and dug it up as best I could! What a heavy plant!
In the photo below its standing on a black plastic trash bag waiting for me to carve off the pups and the excess soil ...
It's currently laying down by our screened in back porch, awaiting a decision where to store it -
the furnace is in the laundry room and it's pretty warm in the winter - not sure about standing it up
in our unheated shed (field mice would probably eat it!) - we have no crawl space or anything like that.
Next year I'll plant it right in the ground!
I did cut the pups off with a razor knife and put them in smaller pots in the living room
beside the super-dwarf cavendish plants and a couple Elephant ears I've repotted ...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46637 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46637&ppuser=10558)
thewebgal
11-03-2011, 04:50 PM
Hauled the poor thing around back -
now I have to find somewhere to lay it out for the winter!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46639 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46639&ppuser=10558)
saltydad
11-03-2011, 07:21 PM
Do you have a basement? If so, I'd use that (as I do). I also cut off all but the topmost leaf, and store bare root leaning against the wall. Good luck. (Of course, if your banana is a basjoo, indeed plant it next year in the ground. They do fine here w/o protection, dying back to the ground and then coming up in the spring with more pups each year.)
Is it ok to store the bare-root banana in the garage; I don't have a basement. Maybe I can winterize it in a big box or covered with thin blanket to keep it dark when we open the garage. Does any one think this is ok? This is how I store my casava(tapioca) tree in the garage. If this is not ok, maybe I just put dirt on garden cart with the dug-up banana and store it in the garage; would that be ok? and thanks for the picture. I really need to dig mine up asap. My first time winterizing banana without pot.
From North East Dallas. Zone 8b.
thewebgal
11-05-2011, 10:51 AM
My laundry room/furnace/workshop is pretty full of spares and such -
but its not very cool -
Plus - I have no way to stand this monster up inside - its just too tall!
Maybe I can put it in the unheated shed out back - if the field mice and critters that winter in there don't make a meal and a nest out of the root ball and corm/bulb!
saltydad
11-05-2011, 04:52 PM
My basement is pretty warm too what with the radiant heat from the furnace. I don't have a lot of light, so maybe that's why the seem to do OK bare root. (Exception- small ones, Zebrinas, and Siam Ruby get potted and stay in the basement). I'd trim the leaves down until you could fit it inside; it'll put out new leaves easily next spring. Hell, some of my bare root folks start growing their new leaves in the spring while they're still in the basement.
I did chicken out and will pot up my Mekong Giant, as it's still pretty small and I was leery of leaving it out at this size.
sjh711
11-06-2011, 03:21 PM
When you dig nanas and store them for winter, do they need complete darkness? What's the min and max temp they can take while in storage? Thanks for the info.
Stan in Homosassa
Good question. I'd like to know, since I'm storing mine in the garage. If so, then I need to cover them since the garage door opens constantly.
wilson1963
11-07-2011, 04:42 PM
Covered mine like this, worked great in SE Ohio last year, enjoyt the pics...Don
Musa 2011 pictures by wilson1963 - Photobucket (http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/wilson1963/Musa%202011/)
saltydad
11-09-2011, 12:48 AM
For those of you wondering if you have enough space for all your tender plants to come inside, have a look at what my house looks like now.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46722&size=1
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46710&size=1
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46708&size=1
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46705&size=1http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46703&size=1
thewebgal
11-09-2011, 07:58 AM
Yeah - with the holidays coming my kitchen gets used as a kitchen and I need my countertops for cookies and holiday prep -
But I do have a ton of plants in the upstairs living room (Parlour).
I really need to post some pix of that space en plant...
Its got skylights and big windows facing southeast -
For those of you wondering if you have enough
space for all your tender plants to come inside, have a look at what my house looks like now.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46703&size=1
thewebgal
11-09-2011, 05:46 PM
Yeah - with the holidays coming my kitchen gets used as a kitchen and I need my countertops for cookies and holiday prep -
But I do have a ton of plants in the upstairs living room (Parlour).
Its got a cathedral ceiling with 3 skylights and big front windows facing southeast -
And here they are - a picture from the upstairs hallway looking down over the front room (aka, the parlour) -
and another picture from the easy chair looking across the parlour.
The two matched Green and white pots are the super-dwarf cavendish that were out back all summer -
they are still adjusting to the reduced sun of November ...
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46735&ppuser=10558><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46735 border=2></a>
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46732&ppuser=10558><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46732 border=2></a>
saltydad
11-10-2011, 04:57 PM
Looks good! The plants in the kitchen are temporary residents; once I get all the others sited I'll know where to put them. I do have 2 unused bedrooms upstairs...hmmm.
saltydad
11-10-2011, 05:03 PM
Now a question to our experts. I've always trimmed off all leaves from my bananas, elephant ears, and cannas except for the topmost nana leaf. I'm wondering if this is really necessary? Since they will be bare root and dormant, what really is the purpose outside of neatness and freeing up more space? I'm thinking of leaving (no pun intended) mine alone and seeing what happens. Obviously the leaves will turn brown and dry, but so what? Will it hurt the plant itself is my question.
nannerfunboi
11-10-2011, 09:15 PM
good question saltydad.. for me i trim all leaves back for convience..
my biggest plants.. would take up a whole room.. diameter of my biggest
E.maurelli probably would be 11 ft.. thats alot of room..lol
your room pics look like my rooms in basement.. :)
i still have to pot up pups off my thai giants..
one plant sent off 11 pups..:woohoonaner: i had
no idea they could do that..
ArchAngeL01
11-10-2011, 10:14 PM
haha It hasn't even frosted here yet :D
eric27
11-12-2011, 03:28 PM
Howard-I only cut leaves off for space too. Outside I cut them off only to fit them under the coverings. I leave on whatever I can. Inside I usually leave them on the elephat ears. I noticed it seems to help them get through the winter easier, in particular the ones that are unpotted. This works really well for ones prone to rot, like the Thai Giants. The old leaf sheaths help protect the tuber and also allow them to still have a very slow growth habit until I repot in spring. I don't have a ton of space, so I cut what I have to, pot soem and unpot the rest.
I see you chickened out and potted up your Mekong Giant! I just covered mine, at least have them mostly covered. I was able to cover all 6 feet of both of them with out cutting them and leaving the leaves on. I'm very interested to see how they make it this winter. After all La Nina agian! Come on 2 years in a row!!!
nannerfunboi
11-12-2011, 04:21 PM
rub it in brad>>>> :)
rain/snow here today..
sigh
nannerfunboi
11-12-2011, 04:25 PM
covered my 2 basjoo yesterday..i have 2 big rebar cages
i made for cucs to climb up.. i put cages over basjoo..and filled
with a TON of leaves.. took 4 big bags of leaves each..
hoping they will do just fine this winter..and have head start to
bigger plants next yr..!!!
saltydad
11-13-2011, 02:30 PM
Eric- I bought my Mekong from Brian in mid summer, and it still is under 2 feet in height and very slender, although it puts out nice small leaves. It will stay out next year depending on the hardiness reports i read here and the growth it makes next season. Good luck with yours; keep us updated.
eric27
11-13-2011, 03:01 PM
I will Howard. I want to get some late season pics up this week if I can. I have been so busy outside digging up canans, elephaant ears, raking leaves, covering the bananas etc. I had my basjoo and partially covered since we had our first semi freeze last weekl I think we hit 30. The cannas were fried but the leaves on the basjoo were untouched. Today I took the plastic off that was covering the straw-we had a ton of rain last week. And now it looks mild for the most part through the end of the month. The latest I have gone with covering the bananas is Thanksgiving. Maybe I can push it even later this year.
My Mekong, even at 6 ft, is still pretty slender too. It worries me a bit for this coming winter. But I covered it just like my basjoo, with straw bales. I have had young, slender basjoos sail through cold winters so I still am optimistic.
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