View Full Version : Goodbye Saba
sunfish
09-01-2011, 01:30 PM
Grew this from a 6" TC and it finally fruited after a little over 3 years. I have way to many plants in my yard. I have been trying to sell off pups all year long at $5 each.Very few buyers in San Diego.Digdeep wants a Saba. So goodbye to this one fruit,pups,corm and all
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45469&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45469&ppuser=2868)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45468&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45468&ppuser=2868)
I hope it's Saba
island cassie
09-01-2011, 01:57 PM
I know how you feel Tony - I only keep my Saba for the architectural aspect - but the French plantain and the Dwarf Orinoco had to go for the same reason - no space!!
sunfish
09-01-2011, 02:02 PM
I know how you feel Tony - I only keep my Saba for the architectural aspect - but the French plantain and the Dwarf Orinoco had to go for the same reason - no space!!
If I could of sold off some of my other varieties,I would have keep this until the fruit were ready.If I offered pups for free I'd probably have people knocking down my door
island cassie
09-01-2011, 02:48 PM
Yes - I don't bother trying to sell mine - they make great compost!!!
sunfish
09-01-2011, 02:55 PM
Yes - I don't bother trying to sell mine - they make great compost!!!
Yes they do
Caloosamusa
09-01-2011, 03:44 PM
They are not very productive in Florida either Tony. Mulch sounds good.
:jalapenonaner:
RobG7aChattTN
09-01-2011, 04:32 PM
They are nice for here just for the size alone. I had one but it didn't overwinter. Randy lives near me and overwintered one a few years. I think he lost his the same year I lost mine but I think he has a replacement. For me, Musas are sort of like bee swarms: Worth a lot in spring, less in summer, worthless in fall (although I did overwinter an itinerans in the ground last winter that was planted very late).
sunfish
09-01-2011, 05:36 PM
The main reason for getting rid of it is room.I can't even turn around without something in my way.Just to many plants.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45475&ppuser=2868><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45475&size=1 border=0></a>
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45474&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45474&ppuser=2868)
All gone.Now I have room for something else :ha::ha:
Kostas
09-01-2011, 05:57 PM
I am sorry to hear that Tony,should be somewhat hard to dig up a plant you grew from TC to flowering. At least it went to someone who will love it! :)
What was its pseudostem diameter and height btw?
sunfish
09-01-2011, 06:10 PM
I am sorry to hear that Tony,should be somewhat hard to dig up a plant you grew from TC to flowering. At least it went to someone who will love it! :)
What was its pseudostem diameter and height btw?
A good guess 18" diameter and 14' p-stem.First generation so I'm sure they get much larger.
It would have been nice to let the fruit mature but .
Kostas
09-01-2011, 06:14 PM
Thank you very much Tony! This one surely isnt for ''confined spaces'' :ha:
kaczercat
09-01-2011, 06:45 PM
Tony what's your soil like there? sandy/ clay like?
sunfish
09-01-2011, 06:51 PM
Tony what's your soil like there? sandy/ clay like?
Heavy clay,like a rock when dry and a sponge when wet
jrodzen
09-01-2011, 11:25 PM
Tony - the two Saba pups I got from you back in the spring are doing well! When I give them a good shot of fertilizer and lots of water they just grow like mad.
Do you think I should dig them up for the winter? I am in the Sacramento area, in borderline zone 8/9.
sunfish
09-02-2011, 07:10 AM
Tony - the two Saba pups I got from you back in the spring are doing well! When I give them a good shot of fertilizer and lots of water they just grow like mad.
Do you think I should dig them up for the winter? I am in the Sacramento area, in borderline zone 8/9.
To be honest I don't know if Saba will make it in the ground in your zone. I think you may do best by mulching them and keeping the corm alive. Someone else with more experience in your zone could give better advice.
So you had no problem getting the corms to root.That's good.
RobG7aChattTN
09-03-2011, 08:42 AM
I don't know how accurate Agri-Starts is but they have Saba listed as zone 8-9. I know Randy overwintered a Saba in the ground at least one winter with mulch in zone 7 and I can't remember a winter that didn't go below 10F so I'd say zone 8 is probably likely if it is mulched and kept dry.
jrodzen
09-11-2011, 05:59 PM
Thanks Rob. I will probably dig up the smaller one and bring it into the greenhouse for the winter and let the larger one stay outdoors.
CookieCows
09-12-2011, 07:06 AM
Oh I have zone envy!!! I love all your stuff!! I had a saba my first year of banana growing and was wow'd by the height. I cut it down, put it in a pot and it died over the winter in my spare bedroom turned plant room with too much heat and moisture. Plant room is now back to a bedroom and I just put pups all around the house in pots now in winter. I want to start on another saba though. I have mostly D.O.s and basjoo and I want bigger! :D
To not have enough room!! That must be a tropical paradise!!
sunfish
09-12-2011, 07:41 AM
Oh I have zone envy!!! I love all your stuff!! I had a saba my first year of banana growing and was wow'd by the height. I cut it down, put it in a pot and it died over the winter in my spare bedroom turned plant room with too much heat and moisture. Plant room is now back to a bedroom and I just put pups all around the house in pots now in winter. I want to start on another saba though. I have mostly D.O.s and basjoo and I want bigger! :D
To not have enough room!! That must be a tropical paradise!!
Just lots of plants.Someday if I get it cleaned up it may be a paradise
orinoko
09-12-2011, 11:32 AM
Sorry about you releasing plants sunfish,
I also have way too many but some are for next year...perennials.
Its also Acers that drive my passion, I just bought another yesterday.
Now I have five. This new one has peeling red bark.
:ha::ha:
sunfish
09-12-2011, 12:32 PM
Sorry about you releasing plants sunfish,
I also have way too many but some are for next year...perennials.
Its also Acers that drive my passion, I just bought another yesterday.
Now I have five. This new one has peeling red bark.
:ha::ha:
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orinoko
09-12-2011, 12:37 PM
Beautiful
:woohoonaner::goteam::drum:
sandy0225
09-12-2011, 01:14 PM
I sold my saba this spring. I was wanting to keep it but someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse. It was about 12' tall.
Darkman
09-12-2011, 03:35 PM
Just lots of plants.Someday if I get it cleaned up it may be a paradise
I can relate to that. I think I'll have to retire though first. Every year I lose a few plants in pots because I can't decide where to put them or I can't catch a break to plant them.
My Saba reluctantly came back after last years Winter and I am zone 8b. It was protected.
sunfish
09-22-2011, 05:08 PM
Another one bites the dust.Goodbye Dwarf Red
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45877&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45877&ppuser=2868)
bananimal
09-22-2011, 05:17 PM
My big Saba just went to a club member. The corm was the size of a basketball. New growth was short due to a big wind that snapped it. New leaves still poked thru the break.
sunfish
09-22-2011, 05:24 PM
My big Saba just went to a club member. The corm was the size of a basketball. New growth was short due to a big wind that snapped it. New leaves still poked thru the break.
I wish I had the room and energy to experiment with these corms.Chop them up and see how many pups I could get
sunfish
09-22-2011, 07:16 PM
Goodbye Orinoco
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45878&ppuser=2868><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45878&size=1 border=0></a>
Kru next on the chopping block
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45879&ppuser=2868><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45879&size=1 border=0></a>:goteam:
RAINFOREZT
09-23-2011, 01:35 AM
I was Planing to buy saba, dwarf red, kru, dwarf Orinoco etc. But after seeing this...now I am thinking may be not . Do they taste really bad?
Worm_Farmer
09-23-2011, 05:30 AM
NOOO!!! Don't get ride of Kru! If you can grow a Kru I think your lucky and should keep it going.
Dalmatiansoap
09-23-2011, 06:14 AM
Does it fell like a more space now or UR going for more?
sunfish
09-23-2011, 06:16 AM
I was Planing to buy saba, dwarf red, kru, dwarf Orinoco etc. But after seeing this...now I am thinking may be not . Do they taste really bad?
I am only removing them because I need the space.Has nothing to do with how they taste.
sunfish
10-07-2011, 08:20 AM
Goodbye Not Ice Cream and Kru
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46153&ppuser=2868><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46153&size=1 border=0></a>
sunfish
10-07-2011, 08:22 AM
Does it fell like a more space now or UR going for more?
I could remove half of my banana plants and still have to many
sunfish
10-14-2011, 07:26 PM
Goodbye Dwarf Namwah :03::03:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46309&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46309&ppuser=2868)
TommyMacLuckie
10-16-2011, 10:40 AM
I've got a Saba blooming right now. Zone 8B. Fruit probably won't ripen in time before the first freeze.
Recently got a 6 hand bunch of Orinoco that are delicious though.
Clare_CA
10-16-2011, 02:39 PM
Tony, I understand where you are coming from. I am going to do the same, but I'm going to get rid of ones that are seeming to perform poorly in my climate or have small bananas or have become too big because of pup proliferation. If you have the time, I would very much like your opinion of these bananas as they are on my list to go:
Raja Puri -- pups too much and has really small not-that-tasty bananas
Dwarf Cavendish -- very small bananas
Dwarf Brazilian -- waiting for small fruit to develop, undecided
Double Majoi -- non-producer so far
I'm also wondering what you think of Sweetheart and Goldfinger. Both had fruited once for me over the winter, but the fruit rotted before it matured.
I have a Kru from you, and so far, it's doing okay.
Thanks in advance:-)
I think this is the first bunch of Raja Puri that I got in August. I have three more bunches on this mat, and they all have small fruit.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Clare_CA/bananas/081411001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Clare_CA/bananas/081411002.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Clare_CA/bananas/081611006.jpg
I have some more pictures of fruit here: bananas pictures by Clare_CA - Photobucket (http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Clare_CA/bananas/)
This one was pretty small but tasty. I think someone said it is an Orinoco.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Clare_CA/bananas/090911005.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Clare_CA/bananas/090911006.jpg
I'm still waiting on bunches of Ice Cream, Dwarf Namwah, Misi Luki, and Cardaba fruit to ripen so I can make a determination about those.
Any help is greatly appreciated:-)
sunfish
10-16-2011, 03:19 PM
I would get rid of these
Raja Puri --
Dwarf Cavendish --
Double mahoi
Clare_CA
10-16-2011, 07:18 PM
Great. Thanks. Were they no good for you too? Too small fruit?
sunfish
10-16-2011, 07:40 PM
Great. Thanks. Were they no good for you too? Too small fruit?
Not as cold hardy as others I have.I am thinking the #1 plant for our area may be D.Namwah.I would love to keep every variety but it's not possible so some need to go. The tall plants I can do without,no more staking and tying and worrying they are going to fall and take out the electric wires
hydroid
10-16-2011, 09:57 PM
I am at the point where probably 30% of my yard has to be weed eated. I can't get my lawn mower in between all my plants, which are mostly bananas, elephant ears, and bamboo. I would love to get to the point of just mulching the whole yard.
Until this year, I had a waiting list for people wanting my Saba pups. But I can always think of something different that I would like to add to the yard. I may have to clear the lot next door.
venturabananas
10-17-2011, 11:21 AM
Clare, I wouldn't give up on the dwarf Brazilian. I know two guys here in Ventura (very near you) who only grow that variety because it does so well for them. I have been the beneficiary or their labors, and when those fruit are at their best, they are outstanding, when they are suboptimal, they are still better than supermarket bananas.
Clare_CA
10-17-2011, 12:13 PM
Thanks Tony and Mark. I agree about the tall ones. My Cardaba is huge and a major space hog, and it is shading several of my plumerias so I think I will take that one out as well as soon as the four bunches I have ripen. I'll leave the Dwarf Brazilian and see if it does better. I had one clump of Dwarf Brazilian that had fruit which rotted, but I have another mat that has fruit that is doing well.
Speaking of bananas that are not tall, has anyone had "Truly Tiny" go to fruit? I have two big mats of it, and I just took some pups off of one mat and planted them. They make a nice showy plant, but I am wondering if they will ever bear fruit.
venturabananas
10-17-2011, 01:41 PM
Clare, I can't recall which one it is, but either (or both) Truly Tiny or Little Prince do not produce fruit.
Clare_CA
10-17-2011, 07:11 PM
It must be Little Prince that does not bear fruit because the tag said it would bear fruit. Going Bananas web site says that it will also, but just because it can bear fruit doesn't mean that it will! LOL! I've never seen a picture of it with fruit. I'm going to be mad if I plant it all over and if it never bears fruit.
Darkman
10-18-2011, 08:23 PM
I am at the point where probably 30% of my yard has to be weed eated. I can't get my lawn mower in between all my plants, which are mostly bananas, elephant ears, and bamboo. I would love to get to the point of just mulching the whole yard.
Until this year, I had a waiting list for people wanting my Saba pups. But I can always think of something different that I would like to add to the yard. I may have to clear the lot next door.
Bo when you get ready to clear the lot just let me know. I'll bring my chain saw and tools and we'll "GET ER DONE". You know I have a bit of experience clearing wooded lots.
sunfish
10-20-2011, 03:32 PM
Goodbye d.cavendish
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=46435&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46435&ppuser=2868)
Clare_CA
10-20-2011, 03:54 PM
Tony, how has Grand Nain done for you if you have it? Is that a keeper? What about Iholena?
sunfish
10-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Grand Nain hasn't flowered yet. I removed red and white Iholena.They will make it in are zone but they need to bloom spring or early summer. You stop growing Passion vines and started growing bananas .I am doing the opposite.
Clare_CA
10-20-2011, 04:42 PM
Okay. Great. Thanks. Well, I used to have a collection of passifloras before I started growing bananas. I had about 15 different passifloras that I just loved. The problem was that they grew to be monsters and took over my very small back yard. That was back when I was renting a house. After we bought a house and moved, I started growing bananas and planted Michelias, Plumerias, Palms, and fruit trees. The only vines that I have now are Stephanotis and Wisteria, both in pots. I do love many vines still, but they take too much maintenance to keep them in control. I'm finding that a lot of bananas take a lot of maintence too, which is why I need to get rid of probably about half the ones that I am growing. I don't do much pup removal because it is murder on my back. As always, I so appreciate your help and advise:-) If I can help you with any passiflora or other questions, please let me know.
sunfish
10-20-2011, 04:48 PM
Okay. Great. Thanks. Well, I used to have a collection of passifloras before I started growing bananas. I had about 15 different passifloras that I just loved. The problem was that they grew to be monsters and took over my very small back yard. That was back when I was renting a house. After we bought a house and moved, I started growing bananas and planted Michelias, Plumerias, Palms, and fruit trees. The only vines that I have now are Stephanotis and Wisteria, both in pots. I do love many vines still, but they take too much maintenance to keep them in control. I'm finding that a lot of bananas take a lot of maintenance too, which is why I need to get rid of probably about half the ones that I am growing. I don't do much pup removal because it is murder on my back. As always, I so appreciate your help and advise:-) If I can help you with any passiflora or other questions, please let me know.
Thanks.Yes the passion vines do take some care.I think it's just a matter of pruning them back every year. You probably know but watch the wisteria.If that thing escapes from the pot you'll never get rid of it.
hydroid
10-20-2011, 07:03 PM
Sunfish is right about that wisteria. We had one kill a huge pine tree when I was a kid, just choked it out. It will run away.
Darkman.... yes I will give you a holler if I clear that lot, you did a great job there at your place. But it sure sounds alot like work to me, he he.
Clare_CA
10-21-2011, 06:03 PM
Yeah, I do know about the wisteria. That's why it's in a giant pot. It's grafted, and there's no way it can escape:-) Thanks:-)
sunfish
10-21-2011, 06:10 PM
Yeah, I do know about the wisteria. That's why it's in a giant pot. It's grafted, and there's no way it can escape:-) Thanks:-)
I have some coming up in my yard from the neighbor.
sunfish
10-22-2011, 11:36 AM
What the heck is going on ?
Clare_CA
10-22-2011, 12:21 PM
I tried to get on the site all day yesterday. I think it was down.
Darkman
10-22-2011, 05:43 PM
I guess here we expect Wisteria to pop up everywhere and just pull up what we don't want. I have one that I'm training to grow in a tree form. It is now about 7' tall with a three inch trunk diameter. The canopy is about a five foot circle. A few times a year I'll trim back the long vines and remove any suckers that pop up. I also have a white flowering one that I may train to a trellis.
Clare_CA
10-22-2011, 08:35 PM
I guess here we expect Wisteria to pop up everywhere and just pull up what we don't want. I have one that I'm training to grow in a tree form. It is now about 7' tall with a three inch trunk diameter. The canopy is about a five foot circle. A few times a year I'll trim back the long vines and remove any suckers that pop up. I also have a white flowering one that I may train to a trellis.
I love the look of the wisteria tree. It is so pretty. I have a white one too in a pot that stays really small for some reason, but I don't care because I just love it. It smells heavenly when it blooms.
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