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ivo_nekitov
08-19-2011, 02:03 AM
I already asked but in the beginning of the summer the plant was too little, and suppose it was difficult to recognize it. So let's try again:

the unknown banana when I planted it (http://ivonekitov.glog.bg/_files/5278319.jpg) in the middle of may
and the same banana few days ago (http://ivonekitov.glog.bg/_files/5301130.jpg), 3 months latter.

Why its so important to me to identify it? Because of it's wintering: I must know does he have some chances to overwinter in 7a zone (at least his corm - well mulched or even with some heating - I just became in love in that plant, it grows from 2 feet in the first photo to 10 to 10 and more(to the top of the spear) for 3 months only, and seems very great and... "architectural" :) Even regret that planted it there, so close to that peach, but HOW I to expect him to grow SO BIG?? :)

Some additional information: in june I cut 2 of 4 pups he had, but unfortunately they haven't roots :( I put him in water. One lives, but not the big one: he made from the part of older's corm I cut another one little(maybe 1 inch large) with two little pups and some roots, So I planted it and the new banana had already 2 new leaves, 2-3 inches big. Hope it will survive.
But the more serious problem is with the big plant. To the end of vegetation it will be at least with 7-9 feet pseudostem, with very hard and big underground corm and it will be practically impossible or very difficult to dig it and put in large pot to overwinter. Even that, I will try to do anything possible to save it - it looks just great, my first banana taller than 10 ft :)
So pls, let me know what kind is it. Will try to do some bigger photos this weekend when i go to my "rancho" there :)

If they are helpful, some older photos of the plant:
25th of june (http://ivonekitov.glog.bg/_files/5290092.jpg)

11th july (http://ivonekitov.glog.bg/_files/5293749.jpg)

And more: this plant have some hardiness: last winter he survived two periods of few days with temps between 35-45 F it that room where keep it, even in February grows a little.

hydroid
08-21-2011, 02:12 AM
I'm no expert but it looks like a Basjoo to me. Hope this helps.
hydroid

ArchAngeL01
08-21-2011, 04:52 PM
Definitely not a Musa Basjoo, it lacks the "wings" on the petioles.
I would say that gabe will give you an id.

ivo_nekitov
08-22-2011, 01:52 AM
Thanks for the answer, Bo, but seems it is not Basjoo, it,s too different from my other Basjoos, and have some waxy ... thing: ) on it, I read older discussions here, Basjoo didn't. And the pups seems very different to Basjoo little pups, they(and the old one) have more... hm, "aristocratic" view:))
Will try to upload some new photos in bananas galleries in a few minutes.

Done. Made a gallery and uploaded some photos (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1901), hope they will be useful to recognize it : )

hydroid
08-22-2011, 03:12 AM
HMMMM!! goes to show you what I know, he he.

bikoro child
08-22-2011, 03:38 AM
Hi ,your pics do'nt really show all the characters of your banana...we do'nt see how the petioles really are (closed or open) ,do'nt see the shape of the leaves base but I would say maybe dwarf orinoco...

ivo_nekitov
08-22-2011, 04:32 AM
Thanks, Ivan, your suggestion is the second one for that kind of banana. I'll try this weekend to make some more quality pics with higher resolution (these in the gallery now are 2 MP only). I read the banana Wiki and maybe your assumption is nearest to the true. In this case I will happy, because as I see, that banana has some hardiness and in a same time produces edible bananas : ))

Gabe15
08-22-2011, 11:57 AM
It is too young to ID for sure.

kcj1219
08-22-2011, 05:10 PM
It does look a lot like a Dwarf Orinoco. Not for sure though. But you'd be in luck then because its very cold hardy. They normally flower at 6-7'.

ivo_nekitov
08-23-2011, 01:18 AM
It is too young to ID for sure.
Thanks, Gabe. I'll take as a working hypothesis this is D.Orinoco, and till November will take a decision to leave it in a ground or try to dig it in a big pot for wintering. Wiki said the plant will survive 7b, so my zone is "on a deadline"(7a), but think with a heavy protection the corm will be OK, but its not enough, I want to save the p-stem too :)
So I will gladly accept any advice about that. Thanks again, have a nice day,
Ivo

ivo_nekitov
08-23-2011, 01:26 AM
It does look a lot like a Dwarf Orinoco. Not for sure though. But you'd be in luck then because its very cold hardy. They normally flower at 6-7'.

Thanks about that information(flowering height), that re-confirmed my decision to keep at all costs its beautiful p-stem and who knows, maybe the next summer we will see it flowering?)