Passiflora

[sunfish]

What is it? The flower is awesome.

I haven't been able to ID that one

[sunfish]

I'd like to grow one of these. Do you have any seeds?

Yes but lets work out something for a plant instead. I'll get back with you

[momoese]

Ok

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=001-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/001-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Yug]

Take a look and tell me what this might be. I bought it and it was marked on the pot Passiflora Pressii, but I can't find that name anywhere online. It looks more like P. coccinea to me. Whatever it is, it is not supposed to be in Hawaii.

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48770><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48770&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48769><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48769&size=1 border=0></a>

[sunfish]

Take a look and tell me what this might be. I bought it and it was marked on the pot Passiflora Pressii, but I can't find that name anywhere online. It looks more like P. coccinea to me. Whatever it is, it is not supposed to be in Hawaii.

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48770><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48770&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48769><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48769&size=1 border=0></a>

I've seen that name before hang on.:lurk:

[sunfish]

Passiflora 'Piresii' (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-piresii.htm)

[sunfish]

This one is from seed from Croatia.

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=004-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/004-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Yug]

Passiflora 'Piresii' (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-piresii.htm)

You are da MAN!! :08:

(although I wish it had been a species... )

[Dalmatiansoap]

This one is from seed from Croatia.

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=004-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/004-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

doing pretty good there
:nanadrink:
do U have Edulis Sims?

[sunfish]

doing pretty good there
:nanadrink:
do U have Edulis Sims?

I have a couple seedlings. It is actually p.edulis edulis.

[venturabananas]

It is actually p.edulis edulis.

Right. This is standard scientific naming convention. You give the name of the organism, in this case Passiflora edulis, followed by the name of the person who named the species, in this case Sims. Any cultivar of Passiflora edulis should technically be followed by Sims. This naming convention is now ignored in lots of scientific writing, presumably to shorten the writing.

[Dalmatiansoap]

Caeruela loaded with buds
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4820.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4819.jpg

incarnata
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4821.jpg
:woohoonaner:

[sunfish]

:0519:Caeruela loaded with buds
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4820.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4819.jpg

incarnata
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4821.jpg
:woohoonaner:

[sunfish]

p.tripartita var. mollissima
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/009-1.jpg

p.red rover
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/008-1.jpg

p.alata
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/007-1.jpg

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=008-1-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/008-1-1.jpg" border="0" alt="008-1"></a>

[Yug]

I don't know for sure what this is, but the leaves resemble some types of passiflora I've seen you folks post photos of. It is a 'volunteer' plant that is growing in the back center of my garden plot. I would never have planted any there so I know it is not my doing. I'm still trying to locate a photo online of the leaves to compare. Unfortunately it has been hit with my weed-eater, but once I saw the leaves and recognized it as a probable passiflora type, I am now protecting it until I see just what it is. We have P. edulis and P. suberosa growing all over the place, but this is not one of those. I've been told that P. quadrangularis grows here, but I have no idea what the leaves look like. It would be just too much of a coincidence to be that one. Sunfish - I'm counting on you, but I'm still looking in the meantime. Mahalo.

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48849><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48849&size=1 border=0></a>

[sunfish]

I don't know for sure what this is, but the leaves resemble some types of passiflora I've seen you folks post photos of. It is a 'volunteer' plant that is growing in the back center of my garden plot. I would never have planted any there so I know it is not my doing. I'm still trying to locate a photo online of the leaves to compare. Unfortunately it has been hit with my weed-eater, but once I saw the leaves and recognized it as a probable passiflora type, I am now protecting it until I see just what it is. We have P. edulis and P. suberosa growing all over the place, but this is not one of those. I've been told that P. quadrangularis grows here, but I have no idea what the leaves look like. It would be just too much of a coincidence to be that one. Sunfish - I'm counting on you, but I'm still looking in the meantime. Mahalo.

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48849><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48849&size=1 border=0></a>

It isn't p.quadrangularis

[sunfish]

Is it okay to post your pic on another forum for ID ?

[sunfish]

I don't know for sure what this is, but the leaves resemble some types of passiflora I've seen you folks post photos of. It is a 'volunteer' plant that is growing in the back center of my garden plot. I would never have planted any there so I know it is not my doing. I'm still trying to locate a photo online of the leaves to compare. Unfortunately it has been hit with my weed-eater, but once I saw the leaves and recognized it as a probable passiflora type, I am now protecting it until I see just what it is. We have P. edulis and P. suberosa growing all over the place, but this is not one of those. I've been told that P. quadrangularis grows here, but I have no idea what the leaves look like. It would be just too much of a coincidence to be that one. Sunfish - I'm counting on you, but I'm still looking in the meantime. Mahalo.

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48849><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48849&size=1 border=0></a>

Maybe this one,\\

Batwing passionflower, Passiflora coriacea | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flowerfreak/4924161498/)

[Yug]

Is it okay to post your pic on another forum for ID ?

Sure, whatever you need to do. I appreciate the help. :08:

[sunfish]

Sure, whatever you need to do. I appreciate the help. :08:

Batwing passionflower, Passiflora coriacea | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flowerfreak/4924161498/)

[sunfish]

Sure, whatever you need to do. I appreciate the help. :08:

Cool beans :08:

[Yug]

Cool beans :08:

I'd say that is probably what it is, although I do see some variation in the leaf shape in the pictures on-line. That appears to be due to the size of the plant; the older vines have a more rounded/ovoid shape in their leaves. Bloom seems to be small, but not as small as the P. suberosa, and about the same light green color, but with a dark circular area. I have not seen any blooms around my garden that look like it yet, but at least I know what to look for now.

Tks again. :08:

[sunfish]

Two people have said a young P. suberosa

Passiflora suberosa (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-suberosa.htm)

[Yug]

Two people have said a young P. suberosa

Passiflora suberosa (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-suberosa.htm)

If they knew that P. suberosa grows all over this place, and therefore is present to compare and eliminate as a possibility, they would not have guessed that. The P. suberosa leaves look like bird's feet, with the center lobe being as long as, or even longer than, the side lobes. On this one, the center lobe is almost missing, and on some larger plants is completely absorbed in the rest of the leaf. I think you have it pegged already.

I would have to admit though, that due to the very small size of the bloom, and its very close resemblence to P. suberosa, I'd be willing to bet that they would be able to be crossed with each other - buy who would want to? I don't see much appeal to the blooms based on the relative lack of size and color.

[sunfish]

p.trisecta

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/012.jpg

[sunfish]

p.purple haze

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=009-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/009-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

p.tripartita var. mollissima

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=008-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/008-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

p.trisecta

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=007-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/007-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>:0519:

[caliboy1994]

I think I saw one with bright orange, oval-shaped fruit growing on the side of the road. I'm tempted to pick a few and gather seeds.

[caliboy1994]

I collected some fruit from it today. There were no open flower buds on the plant, but lots of both mature and immature fruit. I'm going to try germinating it. I'm thinking Passiflora caerulea. What do you think? Also, what medium should I try germinating the seeds in?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48894&size=1

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48895&size=1

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48896&size=1

[sunfish]

I collected some fruit from it today. There were no open flower buds on the plant, but lots of both mature and immature fruit. I'm going to try germinating it. I'm thinking Passiflora caerulea. What do you think? Also, what medium should I try germinating the seeds in?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48894&size=1

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48895&size=1

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48896&size=1

It is caerulea very easy to germinate.

[caliboy1994]

Awesome. Is there an easy way to separate pulp from seed?

[sunfish]

Awesome. Is there an easy way to separate pulp from seed?

You can spread out the seed let the pulp dry out and then just rub off. No need to remove pulp for sowing. Those seed will germinate outside now no need for heat mat.

[sunfish]

p.amethystina

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=007-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/007-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=003-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/003-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=002-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/002-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Dalmatiansoap]

Foundt few P. Phoenicea sprouts :)

[sunfish]

Foundt few P. Phoenicea sprouts :)

Good.Are they poenicea x alata ? or x caerulea :08:

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=002-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/002-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=003-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/003-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=006-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/006-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Dalmatiansoap]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4908.jpg
edulis seedlings
:nanadrink:

[sunfish]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4908.jpg
edulis seedlings
:nanadrink:

Do you have enough or do you want more seed :goteam:

[Dalmatiansoap]

Do you have enough or do you want more seed :goteam:

More than enough!
That goes for Edulis , course :ha:
:woohoonaner:

[Dalmatiansoap]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/Prvapasiflora030.jpg
:woohoonaner:

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=008-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/008-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> p.red rover :woohoonaner:


unknown :woohoonaner:

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=010.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/010.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=013.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/013.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Quote "What this country needs is dirtier fingernails and cleaner minds." Whoohoo

[Yug]

These were growing wild by themselves, but since they are on my side of the garden plot, and they get my water and fertilizer, I consider these to be mine now. Thus far, I have three that were already growing here before I got my garden plot - Passiflora edulis var flavicarpa (in the photo), P. suberosa, and a newly discovered (for me anyway) P. coriacea. It is more expensive to live here, but I feel quite blessed by its bounty.

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49021><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49021&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49018><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49018&size=1 border=0></a>

[Dean W.]

Ante, I hope you have a big place to plant all that stuff! :woohoonaner::ha:

[Dalmatiansoap]

Ante, I hope you have a big place to plant all that stuff! :woohoonaner::ha:
And a bit more:ha:
:woohoonaner:

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Today/?action=view&amp;current=007-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Today/007-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Today/?action=view&amp;current=006-4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Today/006-4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Today/?action=view&amp;current=005-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Today/005-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> :08:

[Dalmatiansoap]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4934.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG4935.jpg
:woohoonaner:

[sunfish]

This is a cross I did p.incarnata x p.Constance Eliott. Should open today.:08:
<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=001-4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/001-4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

p.alata from seed

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=002-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/002-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> :08:

[Dalmatiansoap]

Any fruits of the season yet?

[sunfish]

Any fruits of the season yet?

Lots of fruit but only on the ornamental so far.:08:

[sunfish]

p.hybrid

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=006-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/006-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Dalmatiansoap]

p.hybrid

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=006-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/006-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Bravo! Well done

[sunfish]

[QUOTE=sunfish;196185]This is a cross I did p.incarnata x p.Constance Eliott. Should open today.:08:
<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=001-4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/001-4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Just opened :08:

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=022.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/022.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

:woohoonaner:

Hybrid from cross pollination of two of my Passiflora

p.alata x p.constance eliott :08:

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=006-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/006-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Starwanderer]

The pictures on this thread are amazing. I love the Passiflora blooms. Just stunning! Kudos to you all.

I've tried twice, unsuccessfully, to germinate both P. edulis and P. incarnata. 0% germination rate. On the last attempt, I tried a 2 day soak in 5% ethanol cider, as that is supposed to help leech out the germination inhibitors from the seeds. Still no joy. :(

I'm wondering if my seed is just too old? I purchased it early this year, but that's no guarantee of viability.

Can anyone point me in the direction for good, fresh seed? This thread has really inspired me. I want to try again.

[sunfish]

The pictures on this thread are amazing. I love the Passiflora blooms. Just stunning! Kudos to you all.

I've tried twice, unsuccessfully, to germinate both P. edulis and P. incarnata. 0% germination rate. On the last attempt, I tried a 2 day soak in 5% ethanol cider, as that is supposed to help leech out the germination inhibitors from the seeds. Still no joy. :(

I'm wondering if my seed is just too old? I purchased it early this year, but that's no guarantee of viability.

Can anyone point me in the direction for good, fresh seed? This thread has really inspired me. I want to try again.

I know someone in Tenn. that sales plants :)

[Starwanderer]

I know someone in Tenn. that sales plants :)

Thanks. I may eventually have to go that route, so if you can give me contact info, I'd appreciate that. However, I would really like to raise it from seed though. It's basically a challenge to me now. :)

[venturabananas]

I'm wondering if my seed is just too old? I purchased it early this year, but that's no guarantee of viability.

Tony would know best, but the only Passiflora seeds I bought on the internet never germinated. Probably too old. The ones I harvested from a ripe fruit basically all germinated with no special treatment.

[sunfish]

Tony would know best, but the only Passiflora seeds I bought on the internet never germinated. Probably too old. The ones I harvested from a ripe fruit basically all germinated with no special treatment.

Well the seed don't necessarily need to be fresh from the fruit. Some seed are empty and won't germinate no matter how fresh.I've germinated passiflora seed that are 3 years old.

[sunfish]

Here is another cross I did with my plants.Just opened
<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=008-4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/008-4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

p.caerulea from seed to flower in six months

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=001-6.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/001-6.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=001-7.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/001-7.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=005-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/005-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

Passiflora hybrid

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=003-7.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/003-7.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[saltydad]

OK, my p. incarnata has gotten completely out of hand. Not only is it moving to cover more fence at the speed of a small train, its in the yard, and worse, is now in the neighbor's yard and trees and shrubs. I was hoping she would say she liked it, but she's now moving and I don't see a passiflora infestation as a positive selling point. So if necessary, how do I kill it off? Can I be selective and allow some to stay-or will I just be postponing the inevitable? It covers over 50 feet of fence.Thanks all.

[Dalmatiansoap]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG5097.jpg
:woohoonaner:

[sunfish]

This will never flower but has Pretty Good looking foliage
p.vitifolia x p.phoenicea

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[sunfish]

p.foetida

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[Dalmatiansoap]

This will never flower
why?

[sunfish]

I've been told it is just one of those hybrids that won't flower . Some have had it for 6 years and no buds.

[sunfish]

OK, my p. incarnata has gotten completely out of hand. Not only is it moving to cover more fence at the speed of a small train, its in the yard, and worse, is now in the neighbor's yard and trees and shrubs. I was hoping she would say she liked it, but she's now moving and I don't see a passiflora infestation as a positive selling point. So if necessary, how do I kill it off? Can I be selective and allow some to stay-or will I just be postponing the inevitable? It covers over 50 feet of fence.Thanks all.

How to remove passiflora incarnata? - Passiflora Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/passiflora/msg0416583525124.html)

[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

:woohoonaner:
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:woohoonaner:
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:woohoonaner:
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:woohoonaner:
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[sunfish]

:woohoonaner: First p.incarnata this year.

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[Yug]

OK you passion flower gurus, I saw this passion flower plant at the store and at first
passed it up, thought about it a while, and had to go back and buy it. I have no
idea what it might be, but I'm pretty sure it is not what it is marked as. The tags are
confusing. The one in the pot says 'Passiflora Edulis'
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49388><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49388&size=1 border=0></a>

and the sticker on the pot says 'Passiflora Purp. E. Playboy' which makes me think it may
be a hybrid, or a specific P. edulis cultivar.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49383><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49383&size=1 border=0></a>

I don't think it is a straight P. edulis since if you look at the leaves, they are quite different.
P. edulis has leaves that resemble a 3-fingered mitten, while these are rather heart shaped.
They are also larger than the P. edulis I've seen.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49386><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49386&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49387><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49387&size=1 border=0></a>

The flower buds are not shaped like P. edulis
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49385><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49385&size=1 border=0></a>

And the stems have these flares or wings (like the 'Winged Bean') that I don't see on my P. edulis.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49384><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49384&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49389><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49389&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49390><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49390&size=1 border=0></a>

So, I was wondering if even without any blooms yet, someone could give me an idea what it was.
I know I went overboard with the photos, but I wanted to give a complete idea how it looked.

[sunfish]

OK you passion flower gurus, I saw this passion flower plant at the store and at first
passed it up, thought about it a while, and had to go back and buy it. I have no
idea what it might be, but I'm pretty sure it is not what it is marked as. The tags are
confusing. The one in the pot says 'Passiflora Edulis'
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49388><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49388&size=1 border=0></a>

and the sticker on the pot says 'Passiflora Purp. E. Playboy' which makes me think it may
be a hybrid, or a specific P. edulis cultivar.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49383><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49383&size=1 border=0></a>

I don't think it is a straight P. edulis since if you look at the leaves, they are quite different.
P. edulis has leaves that resemble a 3-fingered mitten, while these are rather heart shaped.
They are also larger than the P. edulis I've seen.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49386><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49386&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49387><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49387&size=1 border=0></a>

The flower buds are not shaped like P. edulis
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49385><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49385&size=1 border=0></a>

And the stems have these flares or wings (like the 'Winged Bean') that I don't see on my P. edulis.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49384><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49384&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49389><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49389&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49390><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49390&size=1 border=0></a>

So, I was wondering if even without any blooms yet, someone could give me an idea what it was.
I know I went overboard with the photos, but I wanted to give a complete idea how it looked.

P.alata ,Decaisneana or a hybrid. How many petiole glands does it have ?

[Yug]

P.alata ,Decaisneana or a hybrid. How many petiole glands does it have ?

What is a petiole gland, and where would it be found?

[sunfish]

What is a petiole gland, and where would it be found?

On the petiole :). The nectar glands ,I can see one has at least 3. The little bumps on the petiole

[sunfish]

Passiflora alata petiole glands (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/herbert1111211.htm)

[Yug]

Got to check after work. I never noticed those little things. Tks.
(of the ones you mentioned, what would those have?)

[sunfish]

From 2 to 4.Quadrangularis has 6.

[Yug]

After a carful examination of the photos, the number that pops up consistentently is 4, two pairs. The one with 3 looks like one was broken off. I even saw one photo that looked like it may have had 5; two pairs and a 5th small bump that may or may not have been on of those glands. Do any of the ones you mentioned have those 'wings' on the stem?

I wonder how someone would mistake this for P. edulis? I'm not an expert, but it was obviously different. The leaves alone were a dead giveaway.

edit - I went back home and checked it out - it typically has 4 on each petiole. Thanks for the info, now I know of something else to check for when I see passiflora.

[sunfish]

P.Edulis Alba

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[sunfish]

:08:

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[Yug]

I think this is P. alata. This is the one that had P. edulis on the tag, but also had Passiflora Purp E. Playboy on the label on the pot. I believe it it is P. alata based on the 'wings' on the stems, or maybe a hybrid because of that name 'Playboy'. Anyone know what distinguishes P. alata from P. decaisneana? Oh, another thing I noticed was that it has three open blooms, and all of them hang straight down. My P. edulis does not do that.
Passiflora alata (?)
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49480><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49480&size=1 border=0></a>

[sunfish]

?
<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=011-1-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/011-1-1.jpg" border="0" alt="011-1"></a>

[sunfish]

?
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[sunfish]

One of my hybrid's

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[sunfish]

:08:


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:0519:

[sunfish]

New hybrid :woohoonaner:

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:goteam:

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=007-8.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/007-8.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=006-10.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/006-10.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=005-8.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/005-8.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=004-7.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/004-7.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=003-13.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/003-13.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=002-8.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/002-8.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>:woohoonaner:

[nullzero]

Sunfish,

Are these all edible hybrids? I am trying to germinate some Passiflora mollissima seeds. Also going to be germinating some Passiflora alata. Beautiful photos!

[sunfish]

Sunfish,

Are these all edible hybrids? I am trying to germinate some Passiflora mollissima seeds. Also going to be germinating some Passiflora alata. Beautiful photos!

They're not all edible

[nullzero]

They're not all edible

Thanks for the update, I heard Passiflora alata has great tasting fruit. Taster said it tastes like soursop.

[sunfish]

Thanks for the update, I heard Passiflora alata has great tasting fruit. Taster said it tastes like soursop.

They are good.Sweeter than purple edulis

[nullzero]

They are good.Sweeter than purple edulis

Thanks for confirming this, can't wait to germinate some seeds :). Currently growing Passiflora 'Mission Dolores', Passiflora edulis var. flavicarpa, and Passiflora lutea (for its yellow flowers).

[sunfish]

Thanks for confirming this, can't wait to germinate some seeds :). Currently growing Passiflora 'Mission Dolores', Passiflora edulis var. flavicarpa, and Passiflora lutea (for its yellow flowers).

I have started a few Mission Dolores from seed but they died on me.

[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

P.Incarnata's

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=006-11.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/006-11.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=005-9.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/005-9.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>:goteam:

[Yug]

My 2nd plant of Passiflora Piresii. This one has more red in the blooms, and is a larger plant.

Passiflora Piresii - my 2nd plant. More red than the first one.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49622><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49622&size=1 border=0></a>

[sunfish]

My 2nd plant of Passiflora Piresii. This one has more red in the blooms, and is a larger plant.

Passiflora Piresii - my 2nd plant. More red than the first one.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49622><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49622&size=1 border=0></a>

Vitifolia

[Yug]

Vitifolia

I believe that is one of the parents, but it was marked as P. Piresii, and I'm not experienced enough to know one from another. I know they look similar, but that's about all I know. If a cross is made isn't there some variation in the progeny so that some resemble one parent while some resemble the other, and some have characteristics of both? In orchids that is how it works; some are almost identical to one parent or the other, and the majority have a mixture of both parents to varying degrees.

[sunfish]

I believe that is one of the parents, but it was marked as P. Piresii, and I'm not experienced enough to know one from another. I know they look similar, but that's about all I know. If a cross is made isn't there some variation in the progeny so that some resemble one parent while some resemble the other, and some have characteristics of both? In orchids that is how it works; some are almost identical to one parent or the other, and the majority have a mixture of both parents to varying degrees.

It is p.vitifolia 3 lobed leaves, Doesn't piresii have single lobe ?

[sunfish]

p.vitifolia 3 lobed leaves ,white corona

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[Yug]

It is p.vitifolia 3 lobed leaves, Doesn't piresii have single lobe ?

I saw a photo on-line of a P. Piresii with large single-lobe leaves now that you mention it, but if you remember the first one I posted, the one that was more orange tinted, and I did know what it was until you providd a name? Well, that one is getting longer now, too. The new leaves are beginning to show the three lobed trait, too. I'll see if I can get a photo of it.

[sunfish]

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48770&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48770)

[sunfish]

P.Vitifolia fruit. Vitifolia does not self all these fruit contain hybrid seed:0519:

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[Dalmatiansoap]

nice color!!

[sunfish]

Oddball albino flower

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=008-10.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/008-10.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Yug]

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=48770&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48770)

You are right about the coronas, the orange one has no white in the corona, but the larger plant does have white. Is it possible that it is still a hybrid, but just exhibits the traits of the P. vitifolia parent? I'm not stuck on the hybrid aspect either way, I wanted P. vitifolia at some point anyway.

[sunfish]

You are right about the coronas, the orange one has no white in the corona, but the larger plant does have white. Is it possible that it is still a hybrid, but just exhibits the traits of the P. vitifolia parent? I'm not stuck on the hybrid aspect either way, I wanted P. vitifolia at some point anyway.

Sure it could be a hybrid.

Plants of Hawaii: passiflora coccinea (http://www.hear.org/starr/images/search/?q=passiflora+coccinea&o=plants)

[Yug]

Sure it could be a hybrid.

Plants of Hawaii: passiflora coccinea (http://www.hear.org/starr/images/search/?q=passiflora+coccinea&o=plants)

Interesting link. The plant that I thought was P. mollissima is actually called P. tarminiana. There is apparently a beautiful white one, P. subpeltata, that I want to locate. The reddish one I just got resembles P. miniata, P. incarnata x miniata, or P. vitifolia more than a P. Piresii, with the color leaning more to the P. miniata, but a few petals fold back like the P. vitifolia so I'm not sure about what it really is.

Tks for that link. Lots of banana pictures, but not much info on the varieties they were. The Koa'e (Ae Ae) and Iholena plants were pretty obvious, but the others could be anything.

[sunfish]

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=013-4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/013-4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=004-8.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/004-8.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sunfish]

One of my hybrids

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/?action=view&amp;current=002-12.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/Passiflora/002-12.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[saltydad]

OK, since the incarnata is so successful that I have to kill it off before it devours the entire house and garden, are there any other possibilities for zone 7a that are less obstreperous? Cerulea seems to go like crazy too. Otherwise I have to just put out in pots so I can easily move them inside for the winter.

[sunfish]

OK, since the incarnata is so successful that I have to kill it off before it devours the entire house and garden, are there any other possibilities for zone 7a that are less obstreperous? Cerulea seems to go like crazy too. Otherwise I have to just put out in pots so I can easily move them inside for the winter.

Passiflora lutea (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-lutea.htm)

[sunfish]

:woohoonaner:

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/?action=view&amp;current=004-16.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/004-16.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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[sunfish]

:woohoonaner:

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[Yug]

Passiflora edulis with visitor.

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49883><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49883&size=1 border=0></a>

[sunfish]

P.Incarnata :woohoonaner:

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[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

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[Dalmatiansoap]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/Snapbucket/E05E77B9-orig.jpg
I hope to be better luck with incarnata this time
:nanadrink:

[sunfish]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/Snapbucket/E05E77B9-orig.jpg
I hope to be better luck with incarnata this time
:nanadrink:

Is that plant from seed I sent ? That is amazing growth.My seed must be special :ha::ha::ha:

[Dalmatiansoap]

Is that plant from seed I sent ? That is amazing growth.My seed must be special :ha::ha::ha:
Oh yes, its from your seed.
Course, and some woodoo yada:ha:
:woohoonaner:

[Yug]

Passiflora Piresii - vine is considerably larger with darker healthier looking leaves. Continues t
to crank out blooms, but never see any sign of fruit. Maybe needs another plant to breed with.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49987><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49987&size=1 border=0></a>

[sunfish]

Passiflora Piresii - vine is considerably larger with darker healthier looking leaves. Continues t
to crank out blooms, but never see any sign of fruit. Maybe needs another plant to breed with.
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49987><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49987&size=1 border=0></a>

Yes

[nullzero]

Sunfish,

What are your best fruiting and eating quality Passiflora for your location?

[sunfish]

Sunfish,

What are your best fruiting and eating quality Passiflora for your location?

Passiflora Edulis Frederick is the best. P.alata and P.phoenica second best. Frederick is easier to grow is self fertile and self pollinates

[Yug]

Yes

Ahhh, I see...

I'll bet it would be 'real' happy growing right next to my P. vitifolia (or possible P. vitifolia cross) for some 'birds & bees' type relations. :03:

[sunfish]

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None chemical germination
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[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

I am very interested in obtaining some fresh P. Alata 'Ruby Glow' seeds. I do not have anything to trade, does anyone here sell fresh seeds?

I do not believe anyone in the U.S. has true P.phoenicea. They're all going to be crosses with another passiflora.

[caliboy1994]

Just picked up some Passiflora 'Fredericks' from HD. :)

[sunfish]

OK, let me try again as I must not be understanding. I am very interested in obtaining some fresh P. phoenicea 'Ruby Glow' seeds. I have seen dried ones for sale at other sites, but does anyone here sell fresh seeds?
This plant has been grown for many years as Passiflora alata 'Ruby Glow' but more recently been identified as a species, Passiflora phoenicea,
There is p.alata and (p.alata ,ruby glow) Phoenicea. Two different plants,both very similar,flower s are almost identical,fruit is shaped different but taste the same. Not trying to be a smart a$$ just letting you know. You can find p.alata seed but not (p.alata ruby glow) phoenicea seed.

[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

Lovely

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[caliboy1994]

I'm giving Passiflora caerulea another shot. This time I'm going to try germinating them outside. I put several seeds in each pot, watered them in, and then covered it with a compost-perlite mixture. Hopefully it will do the trick this time, as the seeds are fresh.

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Germination/6f462916.jpg?t=1345764757

I also managed to get some pictures of the parent plant's flowers.

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Passiflora/fe766e98.jpg?t=1345764285

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Passiflora/9c411fa2.jpg?t=1345763732

Absolutely stunning!

[PR-Giants]

I put them in my dog's food and let them decide where to plant.
Yesterday after harvesting some bananas, I looked up to find this.
The ground was covered with hundreds.
Dogs are great.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50276&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50276)

[sunfish]

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[caliboy1994]

Any idea of how long fresh caerulea seeds typically take to germinate? I haven't seen anything on mine yet.

[Dalmatiansoap]

2-3 weeks

[caliboy1994]

Hopefully before I leave for college. :ha:

[sunfish]

Hopefully before I leave for college. :ha:

Take them with you

[caliboy1994]

I guess I could take them into my dorm and grow them from there! :ha:

[sunfish]

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[lkailburn]

^Which variety is that? It looks just like the one I was going to ask about.

Can I get an ID on this variety i just bought from a nursery. Alata? Quadrangularis?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50687&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50687&ppuser=10645)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50685&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50685&ppuser=10645)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50686&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50686&ppuser=10645)

Thanks!

-Luke

[sunfish]

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[momoese]

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m161/momoese/2012-09-24-1106.jpg

[G.W.]

wow I have to grow these never seen them before !!

can anyone post some seeds? got no trouble covering postage ++

or suggestions on seed vendors and must have varieties? i see there are some polination concerns....

[caliboy1994]

My dad just texted me. My Passiflora 'Fredericks' back at home is starting to bloom! :woohoonaner:

[sunfish]

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[lkailburn]

Hey Tony any guess as to the ID of the vine I posted on page 45?

Thanks!

-Luke

Edit: typed wrong page number. Corrected

[sunfish]

Hey Tony any guess as to the ID of the vine I posted on page 46?
Thanks!

-Luke

If it is blooming now it is most likely P.phoenicia

[sunfish]

If it is blooming now it is most likely P.phoenicia

Your welcome

[lkailburn]

Your welcome

Hey Tony! Thanks for the ID. It is blooming now, although I only just bought it from a nursery so I don't know if there are techniques used to force bloom. Looks like phoenicia is very similar to alata and quadrangularis. The scent of the flowers is certainly interesting. Not exactly a typical sweet flower smell but interesting! Very beautiful.

Thanks again!
-Luke

[sunfish]

Hey Tony! Thanks for the ID. It is blooming now, although I only just bought it from a nursery so I don't know if there are techniques used to force bloom. Looks like phoenicia is very similar to alata and quadrangularis. The scent of the flowers is certainly interesting. Not exactly a typical sweet flower smell but interesting! Very beautiful.

Thanks again!
-Luke

Yes alata and phoenicea flowers are almost identical quadrangularis is close.If it has two bright yellow glands on the petiole,leaf stem,it is phoemicea.No real difference in the taste of fruit between the two. You will need to pollnate the flowers with another passiflora ,caerulea works

[caliboy1994]

'Fredericks' in bloom :woohoonaner:

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Passiflora/IMG_7837_zps3c330436.jpg

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Passiflora/IMG_2152_zps3b231248.jpg

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Passiflora/IMG_8842_zpsacb5e538.jpg

It's in a container. Do you think it'll set fruit?

[venturabananas]

'Fredericks' in bloom :woohoonaner:

It's in a container. Do you think it'll set fruit?

If there are pollinators around, it'll set fruit. I don't have many around, so if I want nice big fruit, I have to hand pollinate. Just a q-tip, works great and is quick and easy.

[caliboy1994]

Awesome. I live five hours away from where the plant is, so I'll make sure my dad does it for me. Will the fruit ripen by the end of the growing season?

[venturabananas]

Awesome. I live five hours away from where the plant is, so I'll make sure my dad does it for me. Will the fruit ripen by the end of the growing season?

Given that it's still a small plant, shouldn't take him more than a couple minutes a day. Yes, they will ripen. It takes mine a few months to ripen, but your plant will get a lot more heat than mine, so will probably ripen faster. I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure I've harvested into January, certainly December. I've never had ones that didn't ripen because it was too cold.

[Yug]

Passiflora suberosa
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50769&perpage=24><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50769&size=1 border=0></a>

Passiflora edulis
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50771&perpage=24><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50771&size=1 border=0></a>

[venturabananas]

Here's a couple different varieties of Passiflora edulis: Fredericks and one I grew from seed of fruit from a plant in Moorea, French Polynesia. The flowers are very similar but distinguishable. In general, the Moorea one has more purple pigment on various parts, including the stems of the plant. Haven't been able to get the Moorea one to set fruit, despite being out there playing bee, with my q-tip.

Fredericks:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50840&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50840&ppuser=7760)

Moorea:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50841&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50841&ppuser=7760)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50843&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50843&ppuser=7760)

[sunfish]

Here's a couple different varieties of Passiflora edulis: Fredericks and one I grew from seed of fruit from a plant in Moorea, French Polynesia. The flowers are very similar but distinguishable. In general, the Moorea one has more purple pigment on various parts, including the stems of the plant. Haven't been able to get the Moorea one to set fruit, despite being out there playing bee, with my q-tip.

Fredericks:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50840&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50840&ppuser=7760)

Moorea:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50841&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50841&ppuser=7760)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50843&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50843&ppuser=7760)

I know how to get fruit on the Moorea :)

[sunfish]

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[venturabananas]

I know how to get fruit on the Moorea :)

Is it top secret? :ha:

[sunfish]

Is it top secret? :ha:

No :ha::ha:

[venturabananas]

No :ha::ha:

OK, I'll bite. :ha: What do I need to do to get fruit to set on Moorea?

[Little Passifloramye]

Hi all, I need some help with id of my passiflora. It was sold as P. quadrangularis, but I realised straight away it wasn't the case as the leaves had 2 petiole glands, so my conclusion was P. phoenicea (according to: Passiflora alata Key (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-alata-key.htm)). Before the flower buds opened I started to suspect that as the bracts were very small, hardly noticeable on many of them. Also the sepals seamed the same length as the petals, so I again checked the petiole glends and found some leaves (very few) with four of them. Today the first flowers opened and I'm even more confused. sepals do look shorter than petals, but not so much, the color is not as red as with P. alata, but not as purple as with P. phoenicea. Now I believe that it is either a cross between P. alata and P. phoenicea, or a variety of alata. Could it be that P. 'Ruby glow' is a cross between this two, or a form of P. alata? I've read that what used to be considered P. alata var. 'Ruby Glow" is now a separate species P. phoenicea. Again, maybe P. phoenicea and P. 'Ruby Glow' are not two of the same taxa... BTW, mine has purplish-lilac petals outside and the corona filaments seam much longer than those of P. phoenicea. To conclude, the plants has traits from both species. I was going to upload the pic, but can't do it straight from my camera, is there a way I;m not aware of? Many thanks.

[Dalmatiansoap]

Hi all, I need some help with id of my passiflora. It was sold as P. quadrangularis, but I realised straight away it wasn't the case as the leaves had 2 petiole glands, so my conclusion was P. phoenicea (according to: Passiflora alata Key (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-alata-key.htm)). Before the flower buds opened I started to suspect that as the bracts were very small, hardly noticeable on many of them. Also the sepals seamed the same length as the petals, so I again checked the petiole glends and found some leaves (very few) with four of them. Today the first flowers opened and I'm even more confused. sepals do look shorter than petals, but not so much, the color is not as red as with P. alata, but not as purple as with P. phoenicea. Now I believe that it is either a cross between P. alata and P. phoenicea, or a variety of alata. Could it be that P. 'Ruby glow' is a cross between this two, or a form of P. alata? I've read that what used to be considered P. alata var. 'Ruby Glow" is now a separate species P. phoenicea. Again, maybe P. phoenicea and P. 'Ruby Glow' are not two of the same taxa... BTW, mine has purplish-lilac petals outside and the corona filaments seam much longer than those of P. phoenicea. To conclude, the plants has traits from both species. I was going to upload the pic, but can't do it straight from my camera, is there a way I;m not aware of? Many thanks.

:pics:
Dobrodošla
Tony might know

[Little Passifloramye]

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50856&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50856&ppuser=14273)

[Little Passifloramye]

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50855&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50855&ppuser=14273)

[Little Passifloramye]

uffff, this was tough! :) Hvala Dalmatino!!!

[sunfish]

Hi all, I need some help with id of my passiflora. It was sold as P. quadrangularis, but I realised straight away it wasn't the case as the leaves had 2 petiole glands, so my conclusion was P. phoenicea (according to: Passiflora alata Key (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-alata-key.htm)). Before the flower buds opened I started to suspect that as the bracts were very small, hardly noticeable on many of them. Also the sepals seamed the same length as the petals, so I again checked the petiole glends and found some leaves (very few) with four of them. Today the first flowers opened and I'm even more confused. sepals do look shorter than petals, but not so much, the color is not as red as with P. alata, but not as purple as with P. phoenicea. Now I believe that it is either a cross between P. alata and P. phoenicea, or a variety of alata. Could it be that P. 'Ruby glow' is a cross between this two, or a form of P. alata? I've read that what used to be considered P. alata var. 'Ruby Glow" is now a separate species P. phoenicea. Again, maybe P. phoenicea and P. 'Ruby Glow' are not two of the same taxa... BTW, mine has purplish-lilac petals outside and the corona filaments seam much longer than those of P. phoenicea. To conclude, the plants has traits from both species. I was going to upload the pic, but can't do it straight from my camera, is there a way I;m not aware of? Many thanks.

Could be a hybrid of the two. I have fruit with this cross.

[sunfish]

P.phoenicea.Fruit with P.alata pollen
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[Little Passifloramye]

thank you Sunfish, that's my guess too, but I haven't had any experience with them before, only the info available on the internet (so much incorrect info there). btw, the color of the petals and sepals is actually a lot darker, richer purple than the camera captured, more blue hues than the red. i pollinated one flower with it's own pollen, and the other with P. caerulea, although doubt the fruit will manage to develop as it is only a matter of days when the min. (night) temps are going to drop below 15 centigrade. i'd appreciate if you'd tell me what's the min temp the flowers/fruit can stand, for P. quadrangularis too? I am expecting P. quadrangularis flowers to open any day. Also, is there a registered hybrid of P. phoenicea and P. alata? If yes, what would be the name? Sorry to bother, but searched the web and haven't managed to find any info on this. Many thanks!!!!

[Little Passifloramye]

P.phoenicea.Fruit with P.alata pollen
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ohhhh my!!! that is really and truly stunning!!! both flower and fruit!!!!! you're soooooooooooooo lucky!!!!!!

[Little Passifloramye]

we'll be patient and see the outcome, probably it's going to turn out something like mine...

[sunfish]

thank you Sunfish, that's my guess too, but I haven't had any experience with them before, only the info available on the internet (so much incorrect info there). btw, the color of the petals and sepals is actually a lot darker, richer purple than the camera captured, more blue hues than the red. i pollinated one flower with it's own pollen, and the other with P. caerulea, although doubt the fruit will manage to develop as it is only a matter of days when the min. (night) temps are going to drop below 15 centigrade. i'd appreciate if you'd tell me what's the min temp the flowers/fruit can stand, for P. quadrangularis too? I am expecting P. quadrangularis flowers to open any day. Also, is there a registered hybrid of P. phoenicea and P. alata? If yes, what would be the name? Sorry to bother, but searched the web and haven't managed to find any info on this. Many thanks!!!!

Phoenicea is fine at that temp.Even night time temp. of 50f is fine.Phoenicea will hold fruit all winter here with lows in the 40's.I have never got fruit on phoenicea with it's own pollen but caerulea works every time.I don't know of any registered hybrid but there must be one.Quadrangularis I don't know about other than what I've read ,no personal experience.

P.phoenicea glands,I have never seen more than 2

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P.alata glands 2 and sometimes 3 or 4.
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[sunfish]

Looking at the leaves of your plant I do not believe it is P.phoenicea

[Little Passifloramye]

thank you very much for all the info + beautiful pics!! still, will have to bring it in soon as the winter is approaching and cut the longest stems + try to root the cuttings although haven't had much success so far. my mystery passy is definitely not pure P. phoenicea, so we'll see... i'll try and pollinate flowers with it's own pollen, that of P. caerulea and P. quadrangularis. If there is no registered hybrid of P. phoenicea and P. alata (any direction, which is REALLY strange) you could do it!!!

[sunfish]

thank you very much for all the info + beautiful pics!! still, will have to bring it in soon as the winter is approaching and cut the longest stems + try to root the cuttings although haven't had much success so far. my mystery passy is definitely not pure P. phoenicea, so we'll see... i'll try and pollinate flowers with it's own pollen, that of P. caerulea and P. quadrangularis. If there is no registered hybrid of P. phoenicea and P. alata (any direction, which is REALLY strange) you could do it!!!

Right now no one is running the register.

[Little Passifloramye]

My alleged P. quadrangularis turned out to be P. x decaisneana, the flower is enormous. Should've paid more attention to details when tried to id it, such as the size of the stipules, ahh well...http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50891&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50891&ppuser=14273)

[sunfish]

My alleged P. quadrangularis turned out to be P. x decaisneana, the flower is enormous. Should've paid more attention to details when tried to id it, such as the size of the stipules, ahh well...http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50891&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50891&ppuser=14273)

Your better off with this one anyhow.Use the pollen from your other plant alata

[Little Passifloramye]

You're right Tony, apparently P. quadrangularis is very difficult to grow in conditions different from those in it's natural habitat, especially in our extremely hot and dry summer conditions. Have done the pollination in all possible combinations, so now am hoping it was successful and the fruits will manage to develop, even though I doubt that...

[caliboy1994]

Passiflora caerulea is finally sprouting....

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Germination/IMG_1689_zpsa0d6b2fe.jpg

[sunfish]

New P.edulis bloom

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[sunfish]

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[caliboy1994]

'Fredericks'

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http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Passiflora/2012-10-20102854_zps01a4eaaf.jpg

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[caliboy1994]

Caerulea sprouts as of 10/20/12.

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Germination/2012-10-20102928_zpsc56f744e.jpg

[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

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[Yug]

Passiflora Piresii
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[sunfish]

P. loefgrenii x P. amethystina

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[sunfish]

Yummy

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[2woodensticks]

ok the grenadilla {passion fruit}i was eating in costa rica,large and yellow/orange in color..slightly oval with a hard outer skin..flesh was clear and VERY tasty.seeds were black..any idea on type??and if i will be able to find seeds somewhere??thanks.. i love the flower photos you all have submitted

[sunfish]

ok the grenadilla {passion fruit}i was eating in costa rica,large and yellow/orange in color..slightly oval with a hard outer skin..flesh was clear and VERY tasty.seeds were black..any idea on type??and if i will be able to find seeds somewhere??thanks.. i love the flower photos you all have submitted

Like this ?

Passiflora ligularis fruit (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-ligularis-fruit.htm)

[sunfish]

P.maliformis

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[2woodensticks]

Like this ?

Passiflora ligularis fruit (http://www.passionflow.co.uk/passiflora-ligularis-fruit.htm)

yes just like that..can i ask a couple of questions??easy enough to grow??seeds easy enough to find??should grow here in west central FL.??and thanks so much SUNFISH

[sunfish]

yes just like that..can i ask a couple of questions??easy enough to grow??seeds easy enough to find??should grow here in west central FL.??and thanks so much SUNFISH

Seed are easy to find.In Florida you may need to grow under shade.It burns up if grown in full sun in San Diego.

[2woodensticks]

ok i have done a little looking but seems like no one selling seeds this time of year??am i wrong..have looked at a few differant sites...fresher is better???so when might be a good time of year to look for fresh seeds???again thanks sunfish..

[sunfish]

ok i have done a little looking but seems like no one selling seeds this time of year??am i wrong..have looked at a few differant sites...fresher is better???so when might be a good time of year to look for fresh seeds???again thanks sunfish..

passiflora ligularis seed | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=passiflora+ligularis+seed&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

[sunfish]

This is probably the best known seller

Passiflora Ligularis 10 Seeds | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Passiflora-LIGULARIS-10-seeds-/380356603417?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f052e19)

[sunfish]

I now this seller.
Passiflora Ligularis Seeds Sweet Grenadilla | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/passiflora-Ligularis-Seeds-Sweet-Grenadilla-/140789289025?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c7b21041)

[2woodensticks]

thanks sunfish...should be ok to start this time of year??do you presoak in milk??or water???2 weeks to germ??papertowel methed for germ. ok??thanks..sorry 4 so many questions..but when i start something new i gotta get all info..thanks

[sunfish]

thanks sunfish...should be ok to start this time of year??do you presoak in milk??or water???2 weeks to germ??papertowel methed for germ. ok??thanks..sorry 4 so many questions..but when i start something new i gotta get all info..thanks

You can start seed anytime of year,just need temps above 70f.Pre-soak for 2 days in warm water.Paper towel should work

[sunfish]

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[2woodensticks]

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and what type is this??

[sunfish]

and what type is this??

Passiflora edulis. This is the variety you should grow.Very easy and has great fruit.

[sunfish]

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[2woodensticks]

thanks again sunfish...i am just going to throw it out..might anyone of you pro passi growers have any fresh seeds to part with???i know ebay is a way to go but would rather keep it in the family{so to speak}thanks either ligularis or edulis??again thanks..

[sunfish]

thanks again sunfish...i am just going to throw it out..might anyone of you pro passi growers have any fresh seeds to part with???i know ebay is a way to go but would rather keep it in the family{so to speak}thanks either ligularis or edulis??again thanks..

If I ever get my butt in gear I'll have seed for sale at a reasonable price.

[sunfish]

Mark I think this one is from your seed.

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[sunfish]

Whoohoo

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[Dalmatiansoap]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG5845.jpg
:nanadrink:

[sunfish]

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG5845.jpg
:nanadrink:

Is this one of the first Frederick seedlings ? No flowers yet ?

[Dalmatiansoap]

No, this one is of second edulis batch. Anyway, still no flowers on first Fredericks even some vines are more than 10ft. Great growth, shine color, no flowers?

[sunfish]

'P.Byron Beauty x inspiration' pollinated with 'P. loefgrenii x P. amethystina' :woohoonaner:



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[sunfish]

No, this one is of second edulis batch. Anyway, still no flowers on first Fredericks even some vines are more than 10ft. Great growth, shine color, no flowers?

:(

[2woodensticks]

If I ever get my butt in gear I'll have seed for sale at a reasonable price.

thanks let me know..

[sunfish]

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[Dalmatiansoap]

Is this one of the first Frederick seedlings ? No flowers yet ?

This one is
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG5954.jpg

[sunfish]

This one is
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG5954.jpg

I am a little surprised it has not flowered yet

[Dalmatiansoap]

Yup. I hope next season will be better. After I tasted home grown Feijoa fruits I definite need more home grown tropicals:ha:
:woohoonaner:

[JodoGarden]

Awesome photos... You have quite a collection going!

[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

Patrice Dreckmann of Rainbow Heights Nursery

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[sunfish]

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[JodoGarden]

Do you find that a heat mat is needed for germination?

[sunfish]

Do you find that a heat mat is needed for germination?

No it does not have to be a heat mat just heat.A light bulb will work.In summer just outside temps.work just fine.

[sunfish]

No it does not have to be a heat mat just heat.A light bulb will work.In summer just outside temps.work just fine.

A heat mat is a safer in damp environment.

[sunfish]

P.incarnata x P.amethystina

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P.edulis Frederick x P.incarnata

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[2woodensticks]

P.incarnata x P.amethystina

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P.edulis Frederick x P.incarnata

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i see you use rockwool..what eles do you start them in??gota get into growing them..thanks ...do you do any cross pollination of your own????

[sunfish]

i see you use rockwool..what eles do you start them in??gota get into growing them..thanks ...do you do any cross pollination of your own????

Just plain rockwool for germination and then pot into 50/50 coco coir and perlite or peat and perlite. Yes I have 100's of crosses/hybrid fruit

[sunfish]

...do you do any cross pollination of your own????
Hybrid fruit
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[sunfish]

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[Dalmatiansoap]

alata?

[sunfish]

alata?

Close.This one is a very rare cross P.alata x P.edulis

[Dalmatiansoap]

your production?

[venturabananas]

This one is a very rare cross P.alata x P.edulis

Cool. Do the leaves resemble alata or edulis, or somewhere in between?

[sunfish]

Cool. Do the leaves resemble alata or edulis, or somewhere in between?

More alat but with some serration on the leaves. This may be the only hybrid of these two in the U.S.

[sunfish]

Still blooming and setting fruit in December

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[venturabananas]

Still blooming and setting fruit in December

Mine gave up on that about a month ago, maybe a bit longer. Must be nice and toasty in your yard. Mine are still growing leaves, and it's a good thing because the fritillary caterpillars are going nuts on them. Strangely, so far they're only eating the Moorea P. edulis and not the Frederick.

[sunfish]

Mine gave up on that about a month ago, maybe a bit longer. Must be nice and toasty in your yard. Mine are still growing leaves, and it's a good thing because the fritillary caterpillars are going nuts on them. Strangely, so far they're only eating the Moorea P. edulis and not the Frederick.

I think it's the amount of light :ha::ha:

[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

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[sunfish]

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[Little Passifloramye]

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51868&ppuser=14273><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51868&size=1 border=0></a>Hi, today I pruned my P. x decaisneana and P. alata as they got infested with red spider mites. Had to take them out and spray them, but since they got enormous I cut them down to about 1.5m. :((((( Along went the only fruit on P. x decaisneana. Now, I wonder how yellow/orange does it have to be for the seeds to be ripe and able to germinate? Below is the pic of the fruit. To me it seams still green, so can it ripe when cut down from the plant?