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Markku Hakkinen
10-24-2010, 07:26 AM
Hi,
I loaded two photos to the gallery from which it is easy to identify M.yunnanensis vs. M.itinerans before their flowering stage.
Markku.

Gabe15
10-24-2010, 01:09 PM
Here are Markku's photos

M. itinerans
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37751&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37751&ppuser=8286)

M. yunnanensis
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37750&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37750&ppuser=8286)

Markku Hakkinen
10-24-2010, 02:40 PM
Thanks Gabe!
I'll load some more photos for identifying purposes later on. I have so many other commitments to do affter returning back from China / Hong Kong which keeps me quite busy.
Markku.

Caloosamusa
10-24-2010, 07:15 PM
I'm looking forward to the yunnanensis subspecies (forms) differences pictures!! I hope your trip and return were rewarding. I figured out leaf corrugation on bananas.

Thanks for the pictures and information Dr. Hakkinen!!! Thanks also Gabe. :jalapenonaner:

planetrj
10-24-2010, 07:18 PM
Thank you for this! I have one of those either/or's that I've been trying to figure out for a year. I always thought that one of these was supposed to grow to 40 feet... another myth?

Also, is one of these an edible or seedless?

Gabe15
10-24-2010, 08:23 PM
Thank you for this! I have one of those either/or's that I've been trying to figure out for a year. I always thought that one of these was supposed to grow to 40 feet... another myth?

Also, is one of these an edible or seedless?

M. itinerans var. xishuangbannaensis is the very tall one which can grow up to 12m in the wild, but not all M. itinerans forms grow to be that large.

Both are wild species and do not produce "edible" fruit in the sense of "edible bananas". Both fruits would have seeds if pollinated, but growing in cultivation it is doubtful if you could have them even be pollinated. You would likely end up with no fruit at all.

Raules
10-24-2010, 08:32 PM
In many shops sell seeds which wrongly name Musa itinerans, and actually it is seeds Musa yunnanensis. Distinctions essential. Thanks for photo Markku!

Markku Hakkinen
10-25-2010, 05:01 AM
Hi,
There is one big difference of basal flowers between M. yunnanensis variants and M. itinerans variants.
All M. yunnanensis are selfpollinators and all M. itinerans variants will need pollination except var. xishuangbannaensis which is a selfpollinator.
Markku.

Markku Hakkinen
10-25-2010, 06:34 AM
Hi,
Here is a picture of M.yunnanensis basal flowers. They are more or les similar in all its variants. However, I don't know how to load it directly?
Markku.

Gabe15
10-25-2010, 12:13 PM
Markku,
To post photos into the conversation, go into your gallery and view a photo, and the bottom of the photo there is a box which reads "Code for bulletin boards", copy the text in that box and paste it into your post and it will show up as the photo.

Below are Markku's photos.

M. itinerans female flower
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37773&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37773&ppuser=8286)

M. yunnanensis basal flowers
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37771&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37771&ppuser=8286)

Markku Hakkinen
10-25-2010, 12:52 PM
Thanks Gabe!
There is coming more photos about the differences of those two species.
Markku.