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Willow87
10-22-2010, 09:31 AM
I planted 80 loquat seeds but only a few made it. This one was the first to sprout and its opening up more and more. I've never been really successful growing plants from seeds but I'm so happy that I got at least a few loquat trees to sprout. I'll keep posting updated pictures. Hopefully they will flourish. It took about a month for them to germinate.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37684&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37684)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37683&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37683)
Soon you're going to have about 80 plant's I'd bet and be giving them away!:woohoonaner:
Willow87
10-22-2010, 03:26 PM
Hi Bob,
Unfortunately 70 of them molded. I guess I didnt plant them soon enough. But I think I'll at least have 8 or 9 trees possibly. I have one that's about 5 feet tall and I cant wait until it fruits so I can collect more seeds. It was only a few inches tall when i got it.
I grew about a dozen... from seed from a member here from Texas and kept two. .... then sent the rest to another member....in Texas!:ha: At least there they're hardy. Mine grew to about 20" this year and I dug and brought them in. In a year or two I'll try planting them close to a foundation and wrapping for winter protection them like lots of people do with figs here.
Willow87
10-22-2010, 03:38 PM
LOL wow. I got mine from a friend that lives near me. She has a giant one in her backyard and its flowering right now. I think she hers for over 20 years. I hope you have success with wrapping them. I kept mine outside all winter in a container. its survived ice storms and snowfall. Its become my favorite fruit tree
Patty in Wisc
10-22-2010, 10:25 PM
Cameron, when your plant is a yr or 2, get a dormant branch of your friends tree & graft it onto your tree so you can get fruits much sooner.
Bob, same to you (hey, I didn't see that tree at your house!) I bring all my potted trees inside...the figs lose their leaves & go dormant but the loquat doesn't lose any leaves & grows slowly over winter.
I planted very fresh seeds in March 06 & the tree is about 8ft but no fruits yet except for a stick I grafted on of Big Jim has a bunch of baby fruits on!!
Richard
10-22-2010, 10:28 PM
I planted 80 loquat seeds but only a few made it. This one was the first to sprout and its opening up more and more. I've never been really successful growing plants from seeds but I'm so happy that I got at least a few loquat trees to sprout. I'll keep posting updated pictures. Hopefully they will flourish. It took about a month for them to germinate.
If you are trying to sprout them outdoors, the rest might sprout when the soil temperature returns to the 70's F in the days and nights. Loquats do not sprout "true to type", so the seedlings are used as rootstock for a proven cultivar.
Willow87
10-22-2010, 10:30 PM
Thanks Patty. I've never had experience with grafting trees. I'll ask my friend if I could take a dormant branch. That would be so neat to have it fruiting earlier. I'll do some research on the steps for grafting. Thanks again Patty
Willow87
10-22-2010, 10:33 PM
Hi Richard. I have the ones that survived in a make shift greenhouse. which is a plastic cake holder from the grocery store. I have them in full sun and I add a little water to raise the humidity. The temperature outside have been in the 80s but the night time temps have been in the 50s. So I really do need to find another branch to graft onto the rootstock. I'll have to read up on that. Thanks again Richard
Patty in Wisc
10-22-2010, 11:05 PM
too soon to graft now, but I can send you a link on how to graft it.
Willow87
10-22-2010, 11:07 PM
Ok that would be great Patty. Thanks so much I really appreciate it
saltydad
10-22-2010, 11:31 PM
Not to derail the thread, but Bob, what variety of fig are the folks growing outside in Jersey? We tried Brown Turkey in Westchester, and you had to wrap it with burlap. Thinking also about Celeste and Chicago Hardy.
Not to derail this either but I'm growing one fig that came with the house that I assume is Brown turkey and have never protected it but am going to this winter to see if it bears bettter fruit next year> I started fertilizing and giving it better watering this year and it bore the most and biggest fruit ever. I just got one var. "Sucrette" this year from Pitangadiego when I was there and it's now a 6 ft. tall shrub from a 6" plant in March and bearing lot's of fruit I doubt will ripen.
Celeste is the other one grown by everyone here and Chicago Hardy is the other I would have chosen if I were going to get another. Jon picked the Sucrette for me based on taste and hardiness.
sunfish
10-23-2010, 09:05 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37709&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37709&ppuser=2868)
champagne loquat.
Willow87
10-23-2010, 09:07 AM
Wow Tony, that is gorgeous! One of my friends has one in bloom right now. I thought they bloomed in winter? I have a larger loquat that is about 2-3 years old and its 5 feet. This one was from another friend.
Willow87
10-23-2010, 12:40 PM
I looked today while I was watering and a second loquat popped up overnight
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37714&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37714)
sunfish
10-23-2010, 01:27 PM
I looked today while I was watering and a second loquat popped up overnight
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37714&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37714)
I've plant lots of Loquat seed pretty much all germinated. Some just take longer than others so don't give up on them.
Willow87
10-23-2010, 01:43 PM
Thanks Tony. I have 4 pots with maybe 3 seeds in each pot so I'm hoping they all sprout. They are all still green so thats a good sign, unlike the others that turned brown and molded
Dalmatiansoap
10-23-2010, 02:33 PM
Do U need to graft them for better fruiting same as Avocado for example?
I dont have any and I might try.
sunfish
10-23-2010, 03:02 PM
Do U need to graft them for better fruiting same as Avocado for example?
I dont have any and I might try.
http://www.bananas.org/144958-post7.html
Patty in Wisc
10-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Tony, I just heard that Champaigne tastes very good. Can I swap anything for a stick to graft onto mine? I grafted Big Jim in early spring. Is that the best time or is any time good? Does your tree cgo semi-dormant?
sunfish
10-26-2010, 07:32 AM
Tony, I just heard that Champaigne tastes very good. Can I swap anything for a stick to graft onto mine? I grafted Big Jim in early spring. Is that the best time or is any time good? Does your tree cgo semi-dormant?
Patty I am a beginner as far as grafting but I would guess early spring is the best time.The trees here don't go dormant.
Patty in Wisc
10-27-2010, 01:16 AM
Tony, I myself am a beginner too. I know w/ some fruit trees (esp the apple I bought for Mike), I got dormant sticks & put them in my fridge crisper till the tree started to bud & then grafted w/ much luck. The Big Jim came to me in March & looked dormant but maybe just leaves cut off & I grafted it then.
Willow87
10-27-2010, 10:30 AM
Today when I was watering my plants. I checked and found 2 more loquats sprouted, so I have 4 total. I'll take picture of the new sprouts when the get bigger. The first one that sprouted has 4 leaves on it at the moment.
sunfish
02-04-2011, 06:42 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40145&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40145&ppuser=2868)
Willow87
02-04-2011, 09:08 PM
Wow Tony, My biggest tree is 6 feet tall. I'm wondering when it will produce flowers though they would probably die here.
sunfish
02-04-2011, 09:15 PM
Wow Tony, My biggest tree is 6 feet tall. I'm wondering when it will produce flowers though they would probably die here.
Trees that are vegetatively propagated will begin to bear fruit in 5 years or less, as compared to 8 to 10 years in seedling trees
Willow87
02-05-2011, 10:12 AM
Ok mine was a seedling when I got it. So I guess I'll have to wait a few more years lol
sunfish
02-05-2011, 12:44 PM
Ok mine was a seedling when I got it. So I guess I'll have to wait a few more years lol
Or try some grafting
Willow87
02-05-2011, 01:12 PM
Someone told me about chip budding, i think thats what its called
Patty in Wisc
02-05-2011, 01:19 PM
Cameron, I planted my loquat seeds in March '06 and I'm hoping for it to blossom this year. I do have 13 baby fruits on the branch that I grafted Big Jim to.
Tony, I'll pm you for a possible trade of a branch of your Champaign. If I graft it (& it takes), I will get fruits next year from it....hopefully even later this year.
i
Willow87
02-05-2011, 01:23 PM
Wow Patty, I need to try grafting my loquat. I brought it inside for a couple of days because the temps were in the single digits. The is another member that lives nearby that has a loquat tree. I got some seeds from him too.
sunfish
02-06-2011, 01:43 PM
Patty will these work ?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40180&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40180&ppuser=2868)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40179&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40179&ppuser=2868)
Patty in Wisc
02-06-2011, 01:54 PM
There you are, yes, those will work. Cut 2 (please) w/ 5-6 leaves on then cut the leaves off. Wrap damp ppr towel around bottom & put in crisper(to force some dormancy) till we have temps above freezing LOL. This week will go below 0 F .
Cameron, I did a cleft/ wedge graft. It's so nice to know ppl who have fruiting trees to graft with or may take another coupl years for mine to bear fruit. It is 5 yrs old.
I'll post pics of the graft as I do it.
sunfish
02-06-2011, 02:06 PM
There you are, yes, those will work. Cut 2 (please) w/ 5-6 leaves on then cut the leaves off. Wrap damp ppr towel around bottom & put in crisper(to force some dormancy) till we have temps above freezing LOL. This week will go below 0 F .
Cameron, I did a cleft/ wedge graft. It's so nice to know ppl who have fruiting trees to graft with or may take another coupl years for mine to bear fruit. It is 5 yrs old.
I'll post pics of the graft as I do it.
I'll do that. Let me know when your ready
We always have seedlings from 1 - 2 years old, a couple inches tall to 1' - 2' tall.
We keep our main producer pruned down to 5' - 6' tall so we can reach all the fruit w/o needing a ladder.
Ours started producing fruit when it was only a couple years old.
I'd love to swap with anyone who has some Veinte Cohol or Dwarf Namwah or else if someone wants to cover postage, I'll be happy to mail seedlings / saplings after frost danger has passed.
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/divers3/images/6feb11/155.JPG
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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/divers3/images/6feb11/162.JPG
We have mailed tons of these guys down to the New Orleans / coastal Alabama area to repopulate foliage wiped out in Katrina so we've got the mailing techniques down pat.
:2722:
Patty in Wisc
02-10-2011, 04:14 PM
I found a pic I took yesterday . For some reason when I put my SD card in puter, it hides the pics & I have to find them. :(
This is Big Jim loquats on a small branch that I grafted last March... oops, I think it was more like March of '09. They are 1 inch so far.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40247&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40247&ppuser=432)
There are 13 fruit ... but there was over 100 blossoms. I did some hand pollinating as I wasn't sure if they are self Pol.
I will try to find a pic of the simple graft I did.
Patty in Wisc
02-10-2011, 05:03 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/Patty_in_Wisc/Wedgegraft.gif
This is cleft/wedge graft. I use a razer for utility knife - sterilized in alcohol. When you cut the top part to a point, make sure it is smooth & even. Also, on the edges of the V, take a tiny sliver off each end on both sides. Make sure the budstick is same size as the branch you choose - preferrably not too high up the tree.
Not TOO tight w/ the rubber band but give some stretch. Then wrap from bottom up with graft tape or even strip of plastic from a bread bag.
Hope this helps. Don't be discouraged if it doesn't take ...I grafted 2 diff sticks & only 1 took on my tree. 5 of 6 took on my paw paw trees.
sunfish
03-02-2011, 02:46 PM
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Patty in Wisc
03-02-2011, 09:25 PM
Tony, you got banana, pitaya & loquat growing together. Are they all on same rootstock? LOL.
How big are those loquats now? Mine are 1 1/2 inches long. Hopefully, none fall off before they're ripe -- like the damned citrus!
sunfish
03-03-2011, 12:41 AM
Tony, you got banana, pitaya & loquat growing together. Are they all on same rootstock? LOL.
How big are those loquats now? Mine are 1 1/2 inches long. Hopefully, none fall off before they're ripe -- like the damned citrus!
There's a Passion vine in there too.Mine are about the same size.
The Hollyberry Lady
03-03-2011, 01:10 AM
Cool thread, Cam!!! :waving:
Zac sent me my first loquat seeds ever, a couple years ago now. He also sent me some of his homemade Loquat jam!!! :goteam:
Here were my first Loquat plants to sprout from his seeds...
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/hollyberrylady08/2nd%20album/043-1.jpg
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/hollyberrylady08/2nd%20album/330.jpg
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/hollyberrylady08/2nd%20album/369.jpg
Never saw any fruit but they were way too young and I gave them as gifts to a few people. I still have
seeds. :D
How are your plants doing now, Cam?
: )
Dean W.
03-11-2011, 01:14 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40695&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40695)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40696&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40696)
Willow87
03-11-2011, 07:20 AM
Wow Sherry. Mine are still small but I set them outside and all of them are growing better. I need to get out and water them today lol. Dean your tree is just beautiful.
Nice "training job" when your loquat was young, Dean! :bananas_b
sunfish
03-11-2011, 07:39 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40729&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40729&ppuser=2868)
Patty in Wisc
03-25-2011, 01:13 PM
My Big Jim loquats are turning a golden color! They are about 2 1/4 inches long & very fat. I propped the branch w/ a mop for support ... they are so heavy. I'll try to post a pic soon.
sunfish
03-27-2011, 02:32 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41130&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41130&ppuser=2868)
Patty in Wisc
03-31-2011, 05:41 PM
This branch is so heavy, I have a mop proping it up. Going to pick one soon & weigh it. I have 12 here...one rotted & fell off few weeks ago.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41251&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41251)
Dean W.
03-31-2011, 05:50 PM
Let us know how they taste, Patty. What variety is that? They look great!:goteam:
sunfish
03-31-2011, 05:59 PM
These Loquats were as large as Apricots.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31421&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31421&perpage=12&ppuser=2868)
Patty in Wisc
03-31-2011, 06:14 PM
That was taken 3 days ago, here's one just taken.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41252&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41252&ppuser=432)
I gotta pick one now LOL...can't wait.
Patty in Wisc
03-31-2011, 06:45 PM
They are more golden than what's shown. I just ate one...very very juicy & taste was excellent! It weighed 2 ounces. Going to let the others ripen more.
3 seeds in it -almost 3/4 inches long X 1/2 inch wide. This is a keeper for sure.
Dean, it is Big Jim that i GRAFTED on 2 yrs ago. My tree was planted from seed of fruit I picked in Fl almost exactly 5 yrs ago. This variety tastes MUCH better than whatever that variety was - & I don't know what that was. I should start getting fruit off it in couple yrs.
I am very surprised at how good it tastes & did I say JUICY? I liked it much more than the dragon fruit.
Tony, I'm confused about your pic...are all 4 of those loquats? The smaller ones look like them...how big do they measure? Stilll have my fingers crossed on the Champaigne sticks you sent. Some are turning black at the tips :(
Jananas Bananas
03-31-2011, 06:57 PM
Patty my mouth is watering now! They look so yummy. Are you saving the seeds? If not please do, I would love trying to start one from seed. I bought an unidentified one from a nursery last year, but who knows what it will taste like!
Yours too Tony! Is that an avocado also?
~JaNan
sunfish
03-31-2011, 07:03 PM
Patty my mouth is watering now! They look so yummy. Are you saving the seeds? If not please do, I would love trying to start one from seed. I bought an unidentified one from a nursery last year, but who knows what it will taste like!
Yours too Tony! Is that an avocado also?
~JaNan
Yes it's an Avocado.
Patty in Wisc
04-01-2011, 11:38 AM
Dean, you showed a pic of your tree w/ blossoms on it. How R they doing? You getting ripe fruits yet?
Janan, I'm saving the seeds....hope they grow true to type.
sdpanther
04-01-2011, 12:38 PM
Funny I never thought about there being other varieties of Loquats. Around here Loquat trees are everywhere, almost like weeds! ok, not quiet like weeds, but seems every few houses you'll find one. Last summer the kids started picking up randoms seeds while we went on our evening walks and we picked up several Loquat seeds. My 4yr old planted three of them and all three sprouted and are about 4-6inches high. A few years ago I had some mystery plants growing in my garden, and they both turned out to be Loquats. I gave them both away then regretted not keeping one.
Dean W.
04-01-2011, 01:01 PM
Dean, you showed a pic of your tree w/ blossoms on it. How R they doing? You getting ripe fruits yet?
Janan, I'm saving the seeds....hope they grow true to type.
I think most of them fell off. It's not a grafted variety and the weather was bad for them I guess.
sunfish
04-01-2011, 01:12 PM
They are more golden than what's shown. I just ate one...very very juicy & taste was excellent! It weighed 2 ounces. Going to let the others ripen more.
3 seeds in it -almost 3/4 inches long X 1/2 inch wide. This is a keeper for sure.
Dean, it is Big Jim that i GRAFTED on 2 yrs ago. My tree was planted from seed of fruit I picked in Fl almost exactly 5 yrs ago. This variety tastes MUCH better than whatever that variety was - & I don't know what that was. I should start getting fruit off it in couple yrs.
I am very surprised at how good it tastes & did I say JUICY? I liked it much more than the dragon fruit.
Tony, I'm confused about your pic...are all 4 of those loquats? The smaller ones look like them...how big do they measure? Stilll have my fingers crossed on the Champaigne sticks you sent. Some are turning black at the tips :(
Yes all four are Loquats.The small ones in the pic are about 1 3/4" long.
sunfish
04-01-2011, 01:32 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41295&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41295&ppuser=2868)
sunfish
04-01-2011, 01:38 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41296&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41296&ppuser=2868)
Patty in Wisc
04-01-2011, 03:43 PM
That's a shame Dean. Such a nice big tree.
Tony, your tree is HUGE. Is that the Champaigne?
Panther, I have a pic of the tree in FL ( planted my tree from its seeds) ...I took it so someone could ID it for me. I took a chance & tasted the fruit even after some idiot told me they might be poison LOL. Before that, I never saw or heard of loquats. I wonder if anyone else in Wisconsin has one LOL.
sdpanther
04-01-2011, 04:04 PM
Here are the three seeds we planted. I need to figure out what was eating on the leaves! Still not sure what I'm going to do with them.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41297&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41297&ppuser=7293)
sunfish
04-01-2011, 04:21 PM
That's a shame Dean. Such a nice big tree.
Tony, your tree is HUGE. Is that the Champaigne?
Panther, I have a pic of the tree in FL ( planted my tree from its seeds) ...I took it so someone could ID it for me. I took a chance & tasted the fruit even after some idiot told me they might be poison LOL. Before that, I never saw or heard of loquats. I wonder if anyone else in Wisconsin has one LOL.
this is a neighbors tree ,the fruit is more orange than the Champagne
Patty in Wisc
04-01-2011, 06:26 PM
They are so pretty.... some ppl grow them as ornamentals only.
cherokee_greg
04-01-2011, 06:31 PM
They are so pretty.... some ppl grow them as ornamentals only.
Hi Patty there nice mine died this winter I was so sad.
Patty in Wisc
04-01-2011, 07:05 PM
Well hello Greg.... welcome back - again. Was your loquat inground or pot? How old was it -- fruiting?
Nice to see you back on the forum:)
cherokee_greg
04-01-2011, 07:09 PM
Well hello Greg.... welcome back - again. Was your loquat inground or pot? How old was it -- fruiting?
Nice to see you back on the forum:)
Thanks Patty. I want to thank you again for that card you sent me when I was in the hospital it really shined a light on my day.
The tree was in ground for four years and fruiting I miss it so much I donot know what happened.
sunfish
04-03-2011, 02:31 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41427&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41427&ppuser=2868)
Dean W.
04-03-2011, 04:31 PM
Here's one of my seedlings.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee185/Dean_Wil/SDC10699.jpg
sunfish
08-12-2011, 09:49 AM
These Loquats were as large as Apricots.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31421&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31421&perpage=12&ppuser=2868)
Seedling from large fruit
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45038&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45038&ppuser=2868)
These Loquats were as large as Apricots.
Ya have to stop that, my keyboard ain't waterproof!
(drooling) :rolleyes:
lkailburn
08-12-2011, 11:36 AM
Seedling from large fruit
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45038&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45038&ppuser=2868)
What happened to the edge of the leaf? Sunburn or overwater?
I've got four seeds in some pots ANXIOUSLY waiting hahaha
-Luke
sunfish
08-12-2011, 02:14 PM
What happened to the edge of the leaf? Sunburn or overwater?
I've got four seeds in some pots ANXIOUSLY waiting hahaha
-Luke
Sunburn from lack of water
lkailburn
08-24-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm amazed! my first loquat seed has already sprouted in just a few weeks.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=45287&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=45287&ppuser=10645)
-Luke
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