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momoese
08-19-2005, 03:53 PM
Has anyone heard of this one? I went to look at some Ae Ae's today and while there bought a few new ones. From left to right are Pisang Klotek, Ele Ele, and Super Dwarf 'Novak'. After doing a google search the closest thing I find to Pisang Klotek is Pisang Klutuk. The owner said it was from Sri Lanka and very rare. He also said only the Kings were allowed to eat the fruit. Any thoughts?
http://home.comcast.net/~momoese/ebayimages/newfriday.jpg
tlturbo
08-19-2005, 03:58 PM
I don't see an Ae Ae in there????? :D
Going Bananas has a PISANG JARI BUAYA in there list but not the one you mention. Dessert variety, 8-10 ft long leaves, thin pseudostem, slender fruit and long with slightly sub acid sweet fruit - rare and unique.
Terry
momoese
08-19-2005, 04:06 PM
Ya I know, no Ae Ae's for me today. I did see 3 of them at two different nursuries and they were very large in 15 gallon containers, but not ony were they pricey, I wasn't that excited with the amount of white in them. I'm going to wait for my little feller to come in the mail before dropping 250.00 on one of these big guys. If anyone wants one and lives in so cal you find them at xotix-tropico on fairfax. Leon is really into rare stuff and travels the globe finding it. Super cool place! They really need a web site though.
bananalover
08-19-2005, 08:23 PM
Nice to get new ones isn't it! Looks like they need some fertilizer and a bit less sun(right now anyway), hard to tell what they look like when they are so droopy like that. Hope you can find out about the pisang, sounds very interesting.
I wouldn't spend $250 on a Ae Ae either. I would love to have one but my obsession with bananas doesn't quite go that far! lol.
Good luck with these!
Gabe15
08-19-2005, 09:48 PM
Pisang means banana. There are many hundreds of varieties from Asia that begin with Pisang and the guy who you bought it from just happend to get one from over there, so you will probly not find any info on it.
momoese
08-19-2005, 10:17 PM
Well I,m going back with my wife to do a little shopping tomorrow so I'll ask him for more details. It's not looking good for this one!
momoese
08-20-2005, 04:19 PM
Well he told me that is the correct name and that it's a loose translation of Banana of the kings. He also said good luck finding any info on it due to the extrememe rarity. He brought them to the US from TC's and suposedly not many in the tray survived. He has a lot of really strange stuff that he personally brought back from expeditions around the world so I guess this is just one of them. It will be cool to see how it grows and what the fruit tastes like! We bought lots of cool stuff and I even managed to talk my wife into buying one more Banana, a Sikkimensis Red Tiger. :D
tropicalkid
08-21-2005, 04:08 PM
momoese:
My best advice would be to transplant it to a bigger pot or to the ground, as it looks small to the plant at the moment, and besides you will make the plant less stressed than leaving it there for a couple weeks, and then transplanting it.Remember that every time it is submitted to stress, it will stop growing.Just my opinion.
tropicalkid:cool:
momoese
08-22-2005, 01:08 AM
Your right, it was looking pretty sad in that little plastic container so I planted it yesterday and it looks just fine so far! :) After our big buying spree on Saturday I will still be planting stuff tomorrow but not until I pick up a load of free compost from the city!!
tropicalkid
08-22-2005, 02:08 PM
Your right, it was looking pretty sad in that little plastic container so I planted it yesterday and it looks just fine so far! :) After our big buying spree on Saturday I will still be planting stuff tomorrow but not until I pick up a load of free compost from the city!!
Please keep updates as to how fast/slow the plant grows.Never heard of this variety before.
tropicalkid:cool:
D_&_T
12-08-2007, 07:29 PM
couldnt see the picture, and wondering how it is growing:drum:
momoese
12-08-2007, 07:33 PM
couldnt see the picture, and wondering how it is growing:drum:
It's doing great! This is the same plant that is being given away in the latest contest thread.:0521:
D_&_T
12-08-2007, 11:05 PM
Mitchel, thank you
juttboy
08-16-2014, 04:55 AM
works quite often for me. Also the picture of the DC is very intriguing, if I am correct is the flower coming straight out of a 2ft pseudostem. :woohoonaner::0519:
momoese
01-13-2015, 05:57 PM
Hello! Doing a Google search this thread is the first result for Pisang Klotek.
I'm enjoying some right now. :)
crazy banana
01-13-2015, 06:11 PM
:drum:Hello! Doing a Google search this thread is the first result for Pisang Klotek.
I'm enjoying some right now. :)
They are super delicious, fruitier than other varieties in our yard. We are enjoying a huge bunch right now, too. I would call them the potato chips variety: cannot have only one ;)
Overgrown
05-03-2015, 03:01 AM
I still have pups from the original one I got from you almost 7 yrs ago. Anymore info on them? I had a flower once but a series of circumstances (wind, dogs, moving, etc) have yet to get fruit. I have managed to save two pups from it and it is in my garden now where it has a better chance of fruiting.
bananimal
05-03-2015, 10:35 AM
I finished up a bunch this year and gave away some. Everybody said it is the best tasting naner they ever et. Follow on pups are now at 10 and 8 ft.
Consensus so far is the same - the PK is the Pisang Ceylon.
venturabananas
05-03-2015, 10:38 AM
I still have pups from the original one I got from you almost 7 yrs ago. Anymore info on them? I had a flower once but a series of circumstances (wind, dogs, moving, etc) have yet to get fruit. I have managed to save two pups from it and it is in my garden now where it has a better chance of fruiting.
There are some other threads that talk about Pisang Klotek. It is a Mysore variety (Mysore subgroup). Whether it is a just a different name for a known cultivar or a unique cultivar is the question. I think it is just another local name for what is more commonly called Pisang Ceylan (Ceylon). That conclusion is based on a small, unreplicated experiment in my yard. I planted Pisang Klotek (from Momoese) and Pisang Ceylan is the same hole so they would experience the same conditions. After about 4 years of growing them side by side, they are indistinguishable to me, so much so that I'm not longer sure which p-stem is from which plant. They are identical in height, coloration, fruit characteristics, etc. Great plants. My only complaint is they are taller than I'd like.
bananimal
05-03-2015, 10:49 AM
There are some other threads that talk about Pisang Klotek. It is a Mysore variety (Mysore subgroup). Whether it is a just a different name for a known cultivar or a unique cultivar is the question. I think it is just another local name for what is more commonly called Pisang Ceylan (Ceylon). That conclusion is based on a small, unreplicated experiment in my yard. I planted Pisang Klotek (from Momoese) and Pisang Ceylan is the same hole so they would experience the same conditions. After about 4 years of growing them side by side, they are indistinguishable to me, so much so that I'm not longer sure which p-stem is from which plant. They are identical in height, coloration, fruit characteristics, etc. Great plants. My only complaint is they are taller than I'd like.
What I said in fewer words. Sri Lankans have their own language. I think PK translates as the king's banana.
crazy banana
05-03-2015, 01:34 PM
Some observations and differences between Pisang Klotek and Pisang Ceylon ( two different mats but not too far from each other with same growing conditions) in my yard are:
- Pisang Ceylon pups a lot more, while my older PK mat rarely sends out a pup)
- Pisang Ceylon fruits at a shorter height
- Pisang Ceylon has smaller bunches ( my last Pisang Klotek bunch had over 175 delicious bananas)
- Pisang Ceylon pups tend to lean more
hydroid
05-03-2015, 07:21 PM
Dan, my PK is doing well. I purchased what was marked as a Mysore from Lowes last year but it has no red at all so I'm not for sure what I got there. But your PK has a lot of red in the stem just like the mysore I saw in the South Pacific.
Bo
from the sea
05-05-2015, 09:15 AM
some tc mysores dont have the red in them
Akula
03-28-2020, 12:26 AM
Hard bump on this thread...
I have a Pisang Klotek that I obtained from CountryBoy1981 over in Baldwin County in early summer of 2019. Thanks CB! I'm not sure who he got it from and he's not very active on the blog so hoping that he got if from either Momoese, Crazy Banana or Hyrdroid in Gulf Shores.
The PK made it through our winter and is now about 6 feet tall. Its at least 12 months old. This thing is very slow growing compared to my namwahs. Wondering how tall it needs to get before throwing a flower and if I have a good chance to get it to fruit this year. Any tips pertaining to this culture would be great i.e. fertilizer requirements (High, medium, low), watering, etc.
I checked Momoese's gallery and he has probably the best collection of photos of this variety. If anyone has a full length photo of the plant with flower/fruit, please post it up!
hydroid
03-28-2020, 01:03 AM
Hey Akula, I think Country Boy got his PK from me. I got mine from Charles aka Darkman and he got his from a guy in Florida, maybe they will chime in here. We have PK out here in the Marshall islands and they are very tasty.
Akula
03-28-2020, 10:29 AM
Thanks Hydroid!
Did you get your PK to fruit over there in Gulf Shores? I reviewed all the posts about PK and everybody gives it a thumbs up for taste. Just hope it can flower this year!
venturabananas
03-28-2020, 11:06 AM
I don't have any photos handy, but I got PK from the original source, Momoese. It makes wonderful fruit, but I got rid of it because it is so darn tall. I think the shortest p-stem height mine every fruited at was 12' for the original mother plant, and the rest were always 14-16' and usually would collapse under their own weight without propping of bunches, or get blown over in hight winds. I think mine were particularly tall because they were crowded and searching for light. I was sad to remove them from my yard because there were my favorite variety to eat, but they were just too difficult to manage in my small, crowded yard, and it got to the point I could get a ripe bunch because they would collapse prior to ripeness and I couldn't prop them at the height they got, when so crowded.
A couple other comments:
If you have plenty of room to space them so they get good light, they should fruit shorter, but probably will still need propping. If you have the space, PK is fantastic for flavor and absolutely worth growing. I just wish there was a dwarf version!
It's a resilient plant that grows very well and doesn't mind cool weather. But hardly anything is as tough as Namwah, so that's maybe not a very fair comparison.
I grew PK and Pisang Ceylan side by side for years. They were indistinguishable in height, flavor, or anything else. I know Crazy Banana noted some differences, but neither of us have enough replication to say anything definitive about whether they are the same variety or different. Personally, I think they are the same.
hydroid
03-28-2020, 01:21 PM
Akula….my PK struggled the first few years in the winter, so bad I thought it was completely dead, but then somehow it got hardy and started pupping nicely. If I were home am sure I could get it to fruit but I spend so much time here in the Marshall Islands am never home and my son has his hand full keeping up with my plants, haha. I think the PK is one of the prettiest with the red edging, just a beautiful plant. Out here the Marshallese call it "300" because it looks like it must have 300 to a bunch. Much better tasting than the other local banana here "Blue Java" is not that great tasting compared to PK in my book. Your mileage may vary. The PK is one of the best tasting Bananas I've ever tried.
momoese
03-28-2020, 08:47 PM
I've heard the same from everyone that's grown PK to fruition or tasted PK fruit from my garden, it's the best tasting banana. And I agree compared to all that I have grown or tasted elsewhere.
I have two mats now because my wife who has never liked bananas demanded that I grow more of them.
I don't have a problem with PK height here in Los Angeles. I did remove my Red Jamaicans and Hawaiian Apples because they were so tall the Santa Anna Winds were snapping them in half.
CountryBoy1981
04-02-2020, 01:58 PM
Hey Akula, I think Country Boy got his PK from me. I got mine from Charles aka Darkman and he got his from a guy in Florida, maybe they will chime in here. We have PK out here in the Marshall islands and they are very tasty.
Correct. I got mine from hydroid. I think I may be too far from the Gulf to successfully get fruit on this one unless we have an extremely mild winter. I did have it in a bad spot in my yard and moved it to a new location last year so we will see what this year will bring.
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