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modenacart
11-08-2006, 03:51 PM
if your plant has a waxy pseudostem does it mean its an edible variety?
mrbungalow
11-08-2006, 04:40 PM
Wax doesn't determine edibility. Some edible varieties have wax, some don't. Some seeded varieties have wax too, such as musa thomsonii.
modenacart
11-08-2006, 05:04 PM
what about basjoo? Does it have a waxy pseudostem does
mrbungalow
11-09-2006, 01:18 AM
what about basjoo? Does it have a waxy pseudostem does
Not basjoo.
modenacart
11-09-2006, 04:30 PM
I guess that is not what I have then. I thought it was but it has a really waxy look to it. When I get my camera back from the shop I will take a few pictures of the small plant. The big one I have already put under the house. I am glad though because it might be an edible type.
mrbungalow
11-09-2006, 04:35 PM
Look at the midribs and petioles. If the midrib is redish above and the petioles have "wings" (extention of leaves) then it's basjoo.
I have never seen a basjoo with a waxy stem.
modenacart
11-09-2006, 07:42 PM
The midrib is a pink on the mother plant, but I don't see what I would call wings on the petioles, of course I might not really understand what you mean. The pup has a darker pink midrib with a pink line all the way around the outside of the leaf. This plant I have in a pot. I don't think the plants I planted in the ground had the pink midrib but I can't say for sure right now.
PaulOdin
11-09-2006, 08:05 PM
I might not even know from a picture, but it sounds more like my Ice Cream than anything else.
Paul
modenacart
11-09-2006, 08:46 PM
I might not even know from a picture, but it sounds more like my Ice Cream than anything else.
Paul
It would be funny if it was, because I just asked a couple of days ago if someone would want to part with Ice Cream pups. I will post a picture when I get my camera back. It should be 5 to 10 business days.
modenacart
11-30-2006, 12:13 PM
Ok, I finally got my camera back. These are the pictures of the plant.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1723&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1723&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1724&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1724&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1725&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1725&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1726&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1726&ppuser=501)
This is the pup attached to the plant.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1727&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1727&ppuser=501)
I had one just like it planted in the ground over the summer. It was about eight feet tall when I dug it up. The leaves were further apart on that on than the one in the photo. Also at the base it had more pink. The pups have pink on the midrib, but the leaves become all green when the plant gets larger.
I traded one of the pups for this plant.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1728&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1728&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1729&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1729&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1730&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1730&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=1731&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1731&ppuser=501)
I have no idea what type either one is. If anyone can help that would be great.
Thanks.
mrbungalow
11-30-2006, 03:31 PM
Paul Odin must be more like the all-knowing norse god, Odin. Fits ice-cream's description perfectly in the first photos.
Definately not m. basjoo. The other one you traded looks like it could be a sword-sucker of either dwarf cavendish or grand naine. I'm guessing this because of the fat trunk, low stature, black markings, and relatively skinny leaves (sword sucker trait).
I like your tiles BTW.
Erlend
modenacart
11-30-2006, 04:46 PM
Thanks for the information and the compliment on the tiles. The in-laws helped install them about three months ago. What does sword sucker mean?
mrbungalow
12-01-2006, 01:23 AM
Sword-sucker = a "good sucker", as opposed to "Water-sucker". A Sword-sucker usually has narrow and skinny leaves, almost no leaves at first. A water or "Umbrella sucker" has very wide leaves and are said to be useless for planting because of lack of vigour. So beware when buying on e-bay!
Erlend
MediaHound
12-01-2006, 08:03 AM
I agree with mrbungalow on the first one. Not only does the whole plant look identical to my Ice Cream banana, it has black pepper markings like my Ice Cream banana does. Look where the leaf meets the pseudostem.
The sucker shows the dark midrib like a sucker on mine, too.
The plant and pup both have a striking resemblence to Ice Cream.
When it flowers you'll have a better idea. It's only a matter of time :)
modenacart
12-01-2006, 08:48 AM
Thanks guys. Will a water suckers produce a nice corm that produces good plants in time?
MediaHound
12-01-2006, 12:00 PM
Yes!
Check out this thread
http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?t=243
MediaHound
12-01-2006, 12:05 PM
I went out earlier and checked the water pup on my Ice Cream, it has a thin pink edge surrounding the leaves.
As the plant gets larger, it looses this.
modenacart
12-01-2006, 03:18 PM
The pup on mine has the pink ring around the leaves.
MediaHound
12-02-2006, 12:34 AM
If you remember when this plant finally flowers, post some photos of the bloom.
modenacart
12-02-2006, 10:04 AM
Ok, I will do that.
modenacart
07-31-2008, 05:26 PM
The plant has finally pushed up a flag leaf. Well, its not the one in the pot, but its from the same group the one in the pot came from.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=11927&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11927&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=11928&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11928&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=11929&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11929&ppuser=501)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=11930&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11930&ppuser=501)
Its shorter than I expected it to be when it flowered because I have another one that came from the same group that is about a foot taller, however I kept the one that has flowered in the ground over winter with bubble wrap and the taller one went under the house.
harveyc
07-31-2008, 08:05 PM
Congrats to a zone 8 grower!
:woohoonaner:
modenacart
08-09-2008, 07:40 AM
New pictures are being added to this thread.
http://www.bananas.org/f12/who-am-i-5414.html
TracyWV
08-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Here are some pics of a young Ice Cream for reference:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12228&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12228)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12229&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12229)
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