View Full Version : Post if getting Musa 'Siam Ruby' from Agri-Starts
tlturbo
10-19-2006, 03:17 PM
ONLY POST HERE IF YOU ARE WILLING (no backing out) TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ACE of HEARTS PURCHASE.
Example - YES, $20 but $40 if not enough people.
This should get us a count - (We'll also see how many people can READ)
Terry
jeffreyp
10-19-2006, 03:36 PM
YES, $20 but $40 if not enough people
doubravsky
10-19-2006, 05:27 PM
I'm in.
D'Andra
10-19-2006, 05:49 PM
Terry,
I'm in for $40 even if we get enough people. If we get more than enough, I'll back down on one at $20 and just get one. I kinda want to get two at $20, but one at $40 would be great too. I hope we can get this baby to grow! Who is collecting the $$$? It would be nice if it's someone with a merchant or paypal acct.
Does this post make any sense to you? I just read it and Gosh! I confused myself!
_______________
D'.
AnnaJW
10-19-2006, 06:18 PM
I'm in!!!
PaulOdin
10-19-2006, 07:32 PM
Ditto. Where do we send the $$?
Paul
jeffreyp
10-19-2006, 09:11 PM
we can worry about that once we have enough responses, but lets not get into non contributing repsonses on this thread.
Taylor
10-20-2006, 08:37 PM
I'm in!
$20 only...I'm poor..haha.:06:
Taylor
10-20-2006, 08:39 PM
That's already like $200!!!!
GO BANANAS!:bananas_b
Pithy_Cherub
10-21-2006, 01:53 AM
I have to 'delurk' for this, folks!
Yes, $20 but $40 if not enough people ... definitely, YES!
Saw this one go for $565.00 (if I remember the ending bid correctly - for sure more than the website asks for - I suspect that the ebayer/seller is also affliated with the Asiatic Nursery, both are from PA. Maybe he's the client that has the license for the TC from Agristart?).
Came here looking for a source for Ae-Ae, & found gold! What a wealth of info here!
grammie
10-21-2006, 07:10 AM
I'm in for $20
Taylor
10-21-2006, 10:45 AM
HALF WAY TO $500!:woohoonaner:
:bananarow: :bananarow: :bananarow: :bananarow:
MediaHound
10-21-2006, 04:32 PM
Like I said in the other thread (http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?t=1091), I'm in.
NANAMAN
10-22-2006, 08:49 PM
I'm in for 20 or 40 too!
Taylor
10-22-2006, 08:55 PM
If we add up all the possible $40 people and all the $20 only people,
then....we have
$480!!!!!!!!
:goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam:
ALMOST THERE GUYS!!!!
Sorry, I like Math!
Possible $40 People ........... $ 20 people
tlturbo..............................taylor_loves_bananas
jeffreyp ..................................grammie
doubravsky
d' andra
anna jw
paulodin
pithy_cherub
mediahound
nanaman
garnetmoth
bgreen
garnetmoth
10-23-2006, 06:38 AM
ok ok, ill be a 40/20 person.
I do reserve the right to not take (ie gift) mine to someone else tho, I probably wont have a greenhouse by the time they are ready. im just curious about this!
PaulOdin
10-27-2006, 06:59 PM
I've posted because this thread had fallen to page #2. Are we still adding people? It would be a shame to quit when we are this close.
Wasn't someone on the list raising these just north of Orlando? If Agri-Start is producing a few thousand, I don't think we will affect his business, and he might be a better source.
Anyway, let's get this project active again!
Paul
BGreen
10-27-2006, 09:44 PM
I would be willing to go $20 and very possibly $40, to put us over and cover shipping. But I do have a few questions. Have we decided what we are going to do with the plant, TC, TC a pup, etc. And we need to think about when the TC is successful does $20 get 1 plant and $40 get 2?
:2737::2748::2737::2748::2737::2748::2737:
Take Care,
BGreen
Taylor
10-27-2006, 09:47 PM
If we add up all the possible $40 people and all the $20 only people,
then....we have
$480!!!!!!!!
:goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam: :goteam:
ALMOST THERE GUYS!!!!
Sorry, I like Math!
Possible $40 People ........... $ 20 people
tlturbo..............................taylor_loves_bananas
jeffreyp ..................................grammie
doubravsky
d' andra
anna jw
paulodin
pithy_cherub
mediahound
nanaman
garnetmoth
bgreen
jeffreyp
10-31-2006, 03:35 AM
It turns out I'll have some tissue cultured Red Thai banana plants within the next 4-6 months. I'll sell them to to those interested here.
I'd like to participate, but I do have a few questions:
1. If I pay $20 or $40, what do I get ? 1 plant 2, a TC tray with 100 plants.?
2. I live in Belgium, will they be shipped here, who will ship them ?
3. We've all contributed our $$ and received our plants. What happens next with the TC cultures? Trow away? Who will sell them further?
Don't get me wrong. I want to contribute and I want to participate, but at the moment I see a lot of enthusiast people waving with their $$, but I don't see a lot of direction.
grammie
10-31-2006, 07:58 AM
I'd up mine to $40 if we can get some concrete answers about what is going to happen to the one plant.
and Jeffrey, I'd love to have a Red Thai.
YES, $20 but $40 if not enough people
PaulOdin
10-31-2006, 04:05 PM
I think Jeffrey has given us a better proposal. For one thing, it might be faster than buying a plant, waiting for it to pup, and then starting the tc process. For another, it takes away the risk to the 'investors', and Keith, if the tc's gets contaminated.
A few questions however:
...Jeffrey, do you know how much you will be able to sell the tc'd plants for?
...Am I correct that Ace of Hearts is just another name for Red Thai?
...Do you know how many plants you will be able to get?
Paul
Agri-Starts
10-31-2006, 04:50 PM
Good Afternoon,
My name is Ty Strode & I am the Director of Marketing for Agri-Starts, Inc. I have read though all the postings & have seen all that you are going through to get Musa 'Siam Ruby' (Asiatica is calling it 'Ace of Hearts' which is not taxonomicly correct, & I believe they will be changing it).
I have contacted Brian Williams of Brains Bontanicals, he will be the first one to recieve our production of 'Siam Ruby' in Feb. or March of 2007.
His website is: http://www.briansbotanicals.net/
I suggested to Brian to offer 'Siam Ruby' to you all first, after seeing the extent the community is going to get their hands on one. He has agreed, and wants to put together a list of names of the people who would like one.
He would be willing to offer it to the members of Bananas.org for $45.00. If someone could put together a list of names of all interested, Brain will make sure you get one first.
STEELVIPER
10-31-2006, 06:24 PM
Count me in. :woohoonaner:
MediaHound
10-31-2006, 06:45 PM
Thanks Ty! :11:
ok so far in for $45 from Agristarts
STEELVIPER
MediaHound
STEELVIPER
10-31-2006, 06:50 PM
Let me know where and when to send the money,and its in the mail!
mediahound: i take it your starting the list? Great!!!
Thanks Ty!!!
BGreen
10-31-2006, 07:52 PM
Thank you TY and Brian!
Count me in on one too!
tlturbo
10-31-2006, 07:55 PM
Me 2
Terry
bigdog
10-31-2006, 08:39 PM
That's awesome, Ty! Count me in also, please. How long before the price drops on it from $45? I know it's a rare banana, and the contributor of the banana wants to capitalize on the market (and why not). That being said...if it can be tc'ed, the price should drop drastically relatively soon thereafter...am I right?
Considering that this is a species banana, and not a cultivar, Musa 'Siam Ruby' wouldn't be correct either. I noticed that Tony Avent of Plant Delights had named it that. Is that where the name came from? Doesn't he have it in tc also? I'll be interested to see what the taxonomists do with this one. If it truly is a species banana, and produces viable seed, it should have a botanically correct name. The sooner the better also! I've seen it called 'Siam Ruby', 'Ace of Hearts', 'Palawan Variegated', amongst other names. Too many names=too much confusion. Although with this one, a picture would avoid all confusion for sure! Sure is a beauty.
While I'm on the subject of species vs. cultivar...if it is a species, it shouldn't be able to be patented. Has someone tried to do this yet? I've noticed that the Wollemi Pine has been patented, but I don't think that holds water in a court of law. I can understand how GMOs and special hybrids get patented. It takes a lot of work, research, etc., to develop them. I just don't understand how a plant with species status gets patented! Thanks.
thebananadude
10-31-2006, 10:43 PM
HOLD UP.
Are the common people really going to have ONE business, that will only provide a safer TC, make all of your hard work go down the drain!???!??!?!
HONESTLY GUYS! Take a risk.....If you must....wait until the Ace of Hearts pups to insure a good TC, but don't let one business take over us....
Not to be a pain, but Jarred, why can a business post on here!? This is a site for Banana Growers alike that love to grow bananas......... NOT A BUSINESS..... You know deep down they are just here for the financial value. As you can see already......that is the only reason.
Agri-starts.........GO DESTROY YOUR OWN FORUM.
BESIDES- Agri-Starts........... WRONG THREAD.
GUESS YOU CANT READ NOW HUH!?
STEELVIPER
10-31-2006, 10:54 PM
Relax! its just a plant. its not like its clean water or oxygen.It may not even go through. OK move it to another or the right thread i get it. geesh!
Steve in France
11-01-2006, 05:05 AM
I don't have a problem with a company helping out with a rare plant or annoucing it. I've been looking at Agri-starts site for the last three years and wishing there plants were available in Europe . At UKOasis many of the best Exotic plant nurseries post , not to advertise most of the time I must add , but once in a while they will say if they have got there hands on a special plant. It's a fine line between a free for all and interesting and helpful info , I guess as long as the line is not crossed then it will be good for the folks here.
I'll be putting my name down for a 'Siam' and perhaps a few more from the next run if possible. I'm looking forward to our move to the US and to meeting in person some of you guys , I did look to see how far Brians Bontanicals is from Maryland , it's a ways but I'll be making the trip as soon as I can , the website looks great and any person with the passion for plants Brian has must be met in person.
Taylor deserves a big Thanks for starting this thread and even tho the result is different the goal is about to be achieved , Well done Taylor .
Later
Steve
PaulOdin
11-01-2006, 07:02 AM
...Please Note...
Agri-Starts is not offering to sell us plants directly, but pointing us toward the people who have the rights to sell the tc's they are producing. Brian's Botanicals is not Agri-Starts, andTy doesn't need to be slammed for doing us a courtesy.
If A-S is doing anything really commercial here it is trying to find a price point for Thai Reds. Personally, I'm waiting for Jeffrey to get back into the string. We may be getting tc's from the same source he planned to use, or he may have new information.
Paul
aroidgrower
11-01-2006, 02:58 PM
Brian Williams here from Brians Botanicals. I should first say I am glad to be apart of this web-site and wish I had found it a long time ago as I am a true plant nut like many of you.
I have not read all the post yet so I am not up to date. I will be reading them soon to catch up.
I think I should first try to help out my good friend TY. He contacted me about this site saying you were all interested in getting starts of this banana and he suggested that I release some to you guys first due to your dieing need for them. I understand that you had a plan to get the plant and if you would rather follow through with this plan I understand. What I was going to offer is a small amont of the plants to just this group of people for the lowest cost. This would be 1 plant per person and I would only take the names for a few weeks then the list would be finished and no one added. I would consider this being very generous because the first plan was to release them on E-bay slowly and let people bid for them one at a time till their set price was made. Which I would believe much higher than this price.
If this will cause a huge argument or problem I can pull the offer off the table. It was not ment to cause fighting among such good people just a different solution for your banana delima.
This maybe the oddest introduction I have had and I am sure some will be glad I offered this to the site others may be upset. I am sorry if this steps on peoples toes it was not intended for that. I will let you guys decided on what you want to do.
I look forward to being a regular member and would like to share hybrid info and hardiness info with the group. I am sure this topic will be dominate for sometime but I do have much to offer the forum and many new banana varieties will soon be coming out from me. THANKS
jeffreyp
11-01-2006, 03:14 PM
I'd like to participate, but I do have a few questions:
1. If I pay $20 or $40, what do I get ? 1 plant 2, a TC tray with 100 plants.?
2. I live in Belgium, will they be shipped here, who will ship them ?
3. We've all contributed our $$ and received our plants. What happens next with the TC cultures? Trow away? Who will sell them further?
Don't get me wrong. I want to contribute and I want to participate, but at the moment I see a lot of enthusiast people waving with their $$, but I don't see a lot of direction.
I can ship just about anywhere. All overseas orders require at the minimum a phytosanitary certificate which costs me $50 and I pass that on to the customer.
- Jeff
jeffreyp
11-01-2006, 03:19 PM
Good Afternoon,
My name is Ty Strode & I am the Director of Marketing for Agri-Starts, Inc. I have read though all the postings & have seen all that you are going through to get Musa 'Siam Ruby' (Asiatica is calling it 'Ace of Hearts' which is not taxonomicly correct, & I believe they will be changing it).
I have contacted Brian Williams of Brains Bontanicals, he will be the first one to recieve our production of 'Siam Ruby' in Feb. or March of 2007.
His website is: http://www.briansbotanicals.net/
I suggested to Brian to offer 'Siam Ruby' to you all first, after seeing the extent the community is going to get their hands on one. He has agreed, and wants to put together a list of names of the people who would like one.
He would be willing to offer it to the members of Bananas.org for $45.00. If someone could put together a list of names of all interested, Brain will make sure you get one first.
Hey Ty,
I'd buy one for $45.
Best,
JeffP
momoese
11-01-2006, 03:19 PM
Brian and Ty, thanks for the posts. Do either of you know whether or not this plant will produce edible fruit?
Taylor
11-01-2006, 03:24 PM
Ill take one-
Taylor
Agri-Starts
11-01-2006, 03:26 PM
I'm sorry if some people have misunderstood my intentions, which were purely to assist the banana-fanatics of this community. I can assure you, financial motives never even crossed my mind when I made the decision to post you all that offer. It was simply to help you all get something you wanted sooner & eliminate the risk. I do not get excited about selling a handful of plugs, however I do enjoy getting unique & rare plants into the hands of people who truly appreciate them.
In the future I will clear ideas such as this with Jarred.
The offer still stands for those interested, just email me the list of members interested & I will pass it on to Brian.
Thanks, Ty
Gabe15
11-01-2006, 03:32 PM
To adress the issue about what exactly this plant is, I will add my thoughts. I was first showed this plant over 3 years ago, before it was offered anywhere, I have pictures of the the original ones. Now from what I have been told, it was found in the wild in Indonesia somewhere and it is my opinion it is just a red mutant of a wild Musa acuminata subspecies. You can't be sure weather it is a new subspecies or a mutant of one without doing extensive field work. But I belive it is rather safe to say it is NOT edible and is seeded. I have many Musa acuminata ssp. zebrina with so much red they come close to this 'Siam Red'.
Welcome to the board Brian! I am definetly in for getting one from you if we can get it together.
Zac in NC
11-01-2006, 03:40 PM
I'd like to be put on the list. I am just curious when we'd have to pay?
Zac
STEELVIPER
11-01-2006, 03:52 PM
It was just one guy letting off some steam. If Brian <like he just wrote>is willing to let us here acquire 1 "siam red" for the price he has stated, then why not? It will not be till next year if i read his post right. i would trust that one of bananas.org creators or one of the many senior members could take names, make a list etc... even collect money? i just think that this is a great break for all of us here in the forum. Thanks to Ty and Brian again.
jeffreyp
11-01-2006, 04:54 PM
But I belive it is rather safe to say it is NOT edible and is seeded. I have many Musa acuminata ssp. zebrina with so much red they come close to this 'Siam Red'.
Welcome to the board Brian! I am definetly in for getting one from you if we can get it together.
I agree with Gabe...its form looks alot like musa acuminata zebrina.
aroidgrower
11-01-2006, 05:36 PM
The offer would be 1 banana each person at 45.00 plus shipping. This will only be offered for a short time after the window is closed no one else will be added to the list. I would not want payment till the plants are here and ready. For people out of the country if someone is willing to ship people plants out of the country they can make their own list and I will send them a few to ship out to our friends over seas. I do not ship out of country due to laws and problems that tend to occur.
As for the future of the banana it will be sold by a handful of friends for the next few years. These people are friends and run similar operations like I do. It is small hobbiest nurseries like this that bring new plants to the market and produce new hybrids. Keeping me and others like me in buisness will help keep the market fresh and exciting.
Pithy_Cherub
11-01-2006, 05:36 PM
The hand you see waving in the air, jumping up & down, is mine!
In ... & already planning where to put it!
How wonderful that Agri-Start contacted Brian & led him to our little 'banana collective'!
If Keith(?) is going ahead w/his original aquisition/pupping plan I'll honor my pledge for that one as well (no backing out) - doesn't do any harm for backup plans & I've committed. So that one is in his ballpark to decide. I've already handed my kids my Xmas list ... banana funding! (makes me ever so easy to shop for - just make out the check to Mom, kids! LOL!)
Next year is gonna be a good year for nanner growin'!
tlturbo
11-01-2006, 06:23 PM
I'm in however we decide to do it and I think it is great for Ty and Brian to be part of our community. See what you started Jarred? HA
And thanks Brian for the kind offer that you DID NOT have to make. I appreciate your thoughtfullness.
By the way Steve, Taylor didn't start this thread I DID.
Terry
doubravsky
11-01-2006, 06:42 PM
Me too on both counts. I'd like one from Brian, and if the original commitment goes ahead I'll honor that.
D'Andra
11-01-2006, 06:46 PM
A BIG thanx to Brian and Ty!
How sweet this is!
I Am So In!
D'Andra
11-01-2006, 06:49 PM
If this is the list, I'm on it!
If we still want to go with the other plan, I'm there too.
BGreen
11-01-2006, 07:07 PM
Thank you Brian.
I would like to be added to the list too!
STEELVIPER
11-01-2006, 07:16 PM
Im in.
MediaHound
11-01-2006, 07:56 PM
yep, in too
I wish we could keep it all in one thread, but if ya'll wanna keep creating new threads, have at it!
Zac in NC
11-01-2006, 08:09 PM
I am in for one of the ones from Brian. If this is the list, then I am on it.
Zac:ropingnaner:
MediaHound
11-01-2006, 08:28 PM
Brian - A warm welcome! Make yourself at home! Thanks for extending this offer to us. Please continue to make additional offers here, as well. I'm looking forward to reading your posts on the forum and hope to see some edits come from your direction in the wiki when its opened up! Thank you for taking the time to join.
Ty - No need to run it by me, not only do I endorse what you did 100%, but I invited you here. You are in no way out of line. Taylor seems to be an overzealous 14 year old.
and Taylor, I know what you did. If you create one more fictitious account here, you will be banned. I will post proof for everyone if you deny it, but thebananadude is taylor_loves_bananas. You have been warned! Ty was INVITED to join and ASKED to offer us specials as well as share information, and in addition is a founding member of our soon to be released wiki - he's ELITE and deserves more respect than you've shown him. You should apologize and be ashamed of yourself.
And now you've started a cross-thread, I'm this close to merging it with this one, because there was no need for it.
http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?t=1225
PaulOdin
11-01-2006, 09:02 PM
Count me in for a Siam Red, tho this seems a bit disorganized at this stage.
Keith, I felt before that you got sorta conscripted into this project, but if you still plan to buy a plant and tc a pup, I'll be happy to contribute. I'd also like to see a 'wiki' on tissue cloning bananas. I'm at the "buy a kit from Agri-Starts" stage, but want to know more about it. As a hobby, it looks pretty addictive.
Paul
grammie
11-01-2006, 09:12 PM
I want in on any and all lists. I have bought from Jeffrey, Agristarts and Brian and can only say good things about all of you.
imdocrob
11-01-2006, 09:35 PM
Count me in on the list as well. Thanks, Rob
grammie
11-01-2006, 09:48 PM
I want on the list too. Thanks Brian.
AnnaJW
11-01-2006, 11:02 PM
IN!!!:weightliftingnaner:
thebananadude
11-01-2006, 11:41 PM
Whatever Jarred.....are you still mad about the forum thing about 2 months ago? Seems I get infractions quite a lot.......... I didnt see any curse words and I hope it wasnt officious. I guess im a bad boy. NOT.:ha:
MediaHound
11-02-2006, 12:11 AM
Next!
momoese
11-02-2006, 12:34 AM
Banana board drama.........Taylor, looks like Jarred has :ropingnaner: you!
:2780:
Steve in France
11-02-2006, 04:00 AM
Alls well that ends well .
I had a look on Google Earth and it's only an 11 hour drive to Brians Botanicals from where we will be in the US come January . So I'll be making a Roadtrip or two in the late Spring :0519: .
Now , what's the next Holy Grail for a Banana grower ?
A pic from a post I made at UKOasis , http://www.ukoasis.co.uk/index.php
http://upload4.postimage.org/1541516/Steve1185.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1541516/photo_hosting.html)
I wish I'd found this site a while ago . Thanks all for the great pics and info here. :)
Later
Steve
aroidgrower
11-02-2006, 09:31 AM
Steve you ask what is next and I have seen a few things not yet on the market. Their are around 9 variegated forms of bananas in Thailand all selling at around 1,000.00 I am planning on getting a few new forms in the near future. One has red trunks with white var a few others yellow variegation.
The most unusual thinks I think we will see are out of the crazy labs in Thailand that are trying to produce some extremely odd stuff. They are using any process and chemical known. Some seem to be almost unethical LOL. One which I am talking about is adding firefly genes to plant cells to get them to glow in the dark. It works and the plants do produce light. They are also hitting seeds with gamma rays to produce mutations and variegations. It seems to be working on some scale.
Steve in France
11-02-2006, 09:40 AM
Thanks Brian , interesting times ahead , do you think they will come up with one to plant on both sides of the gate to the house that could take out unwanted guest or clients that ask dumb questions :eek:
Later
Steve
imdocrob
11-02-2006, 12:29 PM
I'm in as well, sounds like a lot of fun if we can get it going. Rob
Gabe15
11-02-2006, 04:37 PM
count me too...
Maury
11-02-2006, 04:59 PM
I'd like to be involved with this purchase. Can I get some background info on who is purchasing, when, etc. What can you tell me about the plant, specifically hardiness and care? I'm well on my way to killing my second Dwarf Namwah Pearl. :)
Thanks, Maury
momoese
11-02-2006, 06:10 PM
I'm well on my way to killing my second Dwarf Namwah Pearl. :)
Join the crowd! Mine has survived one winter but looks to having some issues at the moment. I don't think many have survived.
Zac in NC
11-02-2006, 06:52 PM
Look, there are some things I have to say publicly. While I understand that Taylor has said things that shouldn't have been said and made multiple accounts, I do not think he should be banned permanently. I know you have a grudge against Taylor, Jarred, but you should be an impartial moderator and not let your personal animosity make the decision. I know you are still upset that he tried making his own forum, but he deleted it. It would not have competed with yours. You could delete the offensive posts and warn him.
We have to remember that Taylor is a 14 year old. I am glad there are young people on this board and it should not be an exclusively adult board. He is very enthusiastic about growing bananas and we should be encouraging him, rather than banning him. A month of banning should be adequate. That is a good smack on the wrist and should discourage this behavior. I know several other people who have emailed Taylor think that he is enthusiastic about plants, and that is quite rare for a teen.
I am considering leaving this board because of this. I don't care if you ban me, but I think everyone has the right to say what they feel. Rest assured, I WILL NOT be recommending this forum any longer and you will not be getting more posters because of me. I enjoyed my stay here but I think I will go where everyone is wanted and not where personal feelings of the moderator are allowed to taint what should be an impartial job.
You know, ban me if you like, Jarred. I don't really care anymore. I will not be back if the lack of impartiality issue is not cleared up. I love plants and really enjoy talking about Musaceae, but this is a bit rediculous. Goodbye!
Zac
MediaHound
11-02-2006, 08:25 PM
Zac, Taylor was given a chance to apologize and spit it right back at me.
How would have you handled the situation? A 1 month ban? That's not far off from what I did, rather we haven't even reached that point yet. I still think we're on the same page, we're in clear agreement so far, Zac.
Taylor will have some cooling off time to think about creating multiple personalities just to ruffle feathers. In the meantime, I will reconsider his ban being either permanent or temporary. I'm sorry you do not see the seriousness of this as I do, but it needs to be nipped in the bud. This board is like a fine stew with lots of ingredients. When we mix them together, we have a wonderful thing. When we have the wrong chemistry, it falls apart. Being the chef, I have to make decisions in the best interest for everyone.
And I do appreciate all the support you've given to us, you know that, we've spoken about it before...
I know you and Taylor are friends and whatnot, so if you want to relay any message from him to me in a PM, please do. Thanks
JoeS475
11-02-2006, 10:08 PM
Not sure which thread to put this in, but I don't want to miss it, so I'm in for the $45 tc. Is there going to be an official list started? Also - at what point will payment be made, and at what point will the plants be ready to go? No rush, though, we're lucky to have this opportunity, thanks Ty and Brian!
~Joe
pitangadiego
11-02-2006, 10:24 PM
I am with JoeS475. put me on the list, where ever it is, and let me know what's next.
bigdog
11-02-2006, 11:29 PM
I'm in for a $45 Musa 'Siam Ruby' from Brian! Sounds like a nice deal, and thank you.
Steve in France
11-03-2006, 03:58 AM
Up for at least one plant , more if possible at a later date.
Later
Steve
MediaHound
11-03-2006, 07:18 AM
We tally it up (edit) on Nov. 30 so get your name in this thread asap if you want one!
imdocrob
11-03-2006, 09:12 AM
I'm confused. This is the second or third thread I've had to respond to but I dont want to miss the chance to get on the list. I'm in if you haven't already figured that out. thanks a whole heap brian and ty and while I'm at it any chance of an Ae Ae?
MediaHound
11-03-2006, 09:18 AM
Yea really. Deja Vu huh?
imdocrob
11-03-2006, 09:24 AM
Hey Zac, I think we all need to cool our jets and step back and rethink what we are saying. I don't really think you want to leave this forum. You have made many friends on here and for some of us it is the only place we find to communicate with each other and stay in touch. I understand Jarred's point though, I feel there is no need for deciet in this forum. Why the need for two forum names? The only reason I can think is to try and trick someone and there is no need for that in here. I am glad to see someone like Taylor taking such an interest in plants, heaven knows there are alot of other things a teenager can have an interest in and I feel it is the people in this forum who have the responsiblity to help nuture his interests but I know it is a fine line that needs to be nipped. I think we should all remember that we are here for one common goal and that is to share our interests in bananas. I think brian and ty have made an honest proposition to us all and I thank them for everyone who comes to this forum. I hope that we can all just push this under the bridge and let bygones be bygones. Hope to see you back soon Zac and Taylor.:discocrazed:
tlturbo
11-03-2006, 09:53 AM
Don't forget me - Terry
MediaHound
11-03-2006, 12:20 PM
The two most recent threads about this plant are now merged for posterity's sake.
STEELVIPER
11-03-2006, 12:45 PM
Excellent!!!:2223:
pitangadiego
11-03-2006, 10:46 PM
Merged or not, please add me to the list.
aroidgrower
11-04-2006, 04:51 AM
I will close the window of opportunity on Nov. 30th at that time if you have not put your name on this list to bad and you will have to wait for them to get released. Once the time has ended I will check the list and get your information so that spring they will go out as soon as they are ready. Once I have them I will email each person personally and wait for payment. Once paid they will be wrapped up and sent out priority mail. I will not be held responsible if your post office fails to get you the package. I will have a receipt as proof and hopefully tracking numbers for each plant. People in Hawaii or other states that have a tendency to have boxes lost with plants in them this would be at your own risk. I rarely lose boxes but had three go missing this year out of the thousands I had shipped.
I would ask that everyone interested in getting the banana to keep this offer personal and to the group. Bragging to others about this low price offer will not help me sell the plant once released and may get me hate mail. So please refrain from posting on other boards about this if possible.
If their are any questions do ask and I will put up the list Nov. 30th to make sure I have everyone's information. THANKS
For the people who miss out on this offer please do not beg or bombard me with e-mail. The plants will first be sold on ebay and then onto my web site. The price that they were sold here for was a one time offer. THANKS
STEELVIPER
11-04-2006, 10:52 AM
Sounds good to me.My mouth is shut.:0490: Thanks again!
imdocrob
11-04-2006, 07:58 PM
Zipping lips as we speak. Does anyone have any information on obtaining a Ae Ae while we are at it.:birthdaynana:
momoese
11-04-2006, 08:25 PM
I might be needing another Ae Ae too seeing my large one has stalled in the middle of pushing a new leaf. I'm not sure if it's the change in weather or over watering which I have since stopped after noticing the problem. :2757:
NANAMAN
11-05-2006, 12:19 AM
Please add me to the list, and thank you for making this generous offer to us!
Count me in for one plant.
Mark Hall
11-06-2006, 02:29 PM
If it can be posted to the uk cheap I would like oneplease..
Steve L
11-06-2006, 03:23 PM
I'm in.
Steve L
puggybw
11-09-2006, 02:06 PM
Hi,
Thanks for the offer of the Siam Red.
I would like to be included to purchase to buy one.
mudcat25
11-09-2006, 07:42 PM
Please add me to the list.
mudcat25
zergas
11-09-2006, 07:56 PM
please add me in for 1 plant
padillawong
11-10-2006, 05:46 PM
Hi,
Please add me to your list.
tlturbo
11-11-2006, 08:06 AM
Jarred,
I hate to be a wet blanket, but have you noticed that 3 of the last posts asking for a plant have only one post? Brand new members that probably have signed on just for this offer with no names or locations. I think we should limit this purchase to established board members. Hell, I could sign on as 5 new names and get 5 plants but doesn't that defeat the purpose?
Terry
Mark Hall
11-11-2006, 09:19 AM
I am a new member since october and I am willing to retract my offer of wanting one if it is going to cause problems with the more senior members of the forum. I joined this for info on bananas and swapping and buying was a bonus.
Mark
MediaHound
11-11-2006, 10:16 AM
Don't worry about it, Mark. If they can be shipped out to you in the UK, you're fine. You have been an active member here. Terry is referring to folks with one post just joining for the purpose of getting these plants.
The whole offer is a learning experience. In the future, if the offers need to be tailored so that only existing members are offered the plants, then that will be the case. For now, nothing has gotten out of hand in my humble opinion.
I do appreciate your pointing it out, and I did certainly notice the trend as it happened. I also had a feeling beforehand that there would be a few folks who would join just for this purpose.
I would hope the new members continue to be active. And I'm sure that getting these plants would give them reason to continue to stop by here every now and then and make a post or two, upload some photos of the progress of their 'Siam Ruby', etc.
I wouldn't recommend signing on for multiple accounts to get multiple plants, though! That's dishonest and could bite you in the rear (not you, Terry, just generally speaking). Besides, next time I stop by for a trade, I would see them in your yard :)
:exercisenaner:
Brian is more than welcome to add his 2¢, of course.
bigdog
11-11-2006, 10:32 AM
Terry, while I see your point, remember that Brian is the one with the plants, and it should be his decision to include or exclude anybody. What difference does it make if somebody joined just for this offer? Can you blame them? If it brings more folks to this forum to share their knowledge, experience, and wisdom, then I'm all for it!
Besides, I think that the more people that have this plant, the better for everyone else growing it. When there is an opportuntity to make a rare plant become widely available, I think everyone wins. That is, except for the folks who were going to try to make a fortune off of it on eBay (and I'm not talking about Brian, I'm talking about people who sold this plant on eBay before it is becoming available from tissue culture. I'm also NOT condemning those same people for selling them on eBay! In fact, I'm a firm believer in working the market, and getting the most that you can from a product! It is called capitalism and entrepreneurship!). A plant as striking and beautiful as this one should be in every banana enthusiast's yard!
PaulOdin
11-11-2006, 12:42 PM
I had noticed... but what struck me is that the forum is new and still evolving. If this becomes a place to find 'inside deals' on bananas we may need to limit deals to the sale/trade section. It is pretty obvious that we are picking up new, experienced growers at a pretty fast rate. If we start picking up people w/ a related special interest like tissue culturing, that would be good, too.
Brian can always shorten his deadline, but he is probably/hopefully drawing more new people than multiple accounts. A year from now Jeff's Ae-Ae at $150 will look like a better deal than Siam Reds at $45.
Paul
mudcat25
11-11-2006, 01:54 PM
I was one of the last three who asked to be added to the list which was started after I joined this forum. I don't have alot of posts because for one I live in MO and my trees are put away for the season. I joined because there is alot of information from some very experienced people. I'm just a guy who got a couple of banana trees a few years ago and have turned into someone who can't spend enough time in my yard now because of my interest in these trees. So if all I can get here is info. Then I am happy enough to get that.
Hi mudcat, nice to see another MO person here.
I really want to get one but since I am so new to bananas I’m afraid to try. My Namwah Pearl that I got earlier this fall is not looking to good and I would hate to kill another banana.
Jane
orionsbelt7@aol.com
11-12-2006, 10:50 PM
hi there-i would very very much like to be added to the list to buy a musa Siam Ruby for $45. the photos are stunning-i cant get over how beautiful it is. this is one of the reasons i love gardening-there is always something new around the corner to fall in love with. love or is it just red foliage lust? either way i really appreciate this generous offer. cant wait to grow this one! thanks-David
blonddude
11-16-2006, 08:21 AM
Hi All,
I go away from the board for a few weeks....wow!
Anyway-please count me in for the Siam Red-two if possible. I'll be happy to share pups with others in L.A. if they suceed.
Thanks-
David
Kylie2x
11-16-2006, 10:35 AM
Hey!!!!
I haven't been able to post for a few weeks...LIFE!!!!
I am still in on the Siam... I think it sounds like a wonderful offer.. Brian and Ty Thank You for allowing us this oppurtunity....
Blessings
Kylie :simpatica
Mustang
11-26-2006, 03:02 PM
Hi Guys. As I said in my 'unlurking post' in the cold hardy bananas forum, I've only just registered but have been reading for quite a while. However, I focused more on the cold hardy forum than this one, coming from a cold, dark, damp country ;-)
However, if it is deemed to be ok I would also like the opportunity to have one of these siam reds, if it can be sent to the UK. If the board feels that I haven't earned it yet, fair enough and I'll respect that.
The sound of other new ones being developed in Thailand certainly sound interesting ... I just hope that some are cold hardy as well as being fantastic to look at!
GordonHawk
11-26-2006, 03:39 PM
are the reds still being accounted and spoken for... I'm a new member ..for sure.. and did see this thread up ...but I came first from a link to bigdogs overwintering photos.. loved it..and joned to learn and increase the flock..
But count me in if this is active... and available.. it sems to be quite old
Gordon
chong
11-27-2006, 12:58 AM
Hello Mr. Terry,
Please put me in for four (4). If there's not enough people to keep the price down to $20 each, I'd be willing to buy more. What is the target number, anyway?
Thank you.
Chong
Chong,
You can't buy more to make the price drop. You are only allowed to buy one plant (unless Brian would change his mind about this) at $45.
Please put me in for four (4). If there's not enough people to keep the price down to $20 each, I'd be willing to buy more. What is the target number, anyway?
MediaHound
11-27-2006, 09:35 AM
Hello Mr. Terry,
Please put me in for four (4). If there's not enough people to keep the price down to $20 each, I'd be willing to buy more. What is the target number, anyway?
Thank you.
Chong
That idea was scrapped, I suggest you read the whole thread.
We're all getting the plants from Brian for $45.
Make sure you see post #25 in this thread from Agri-Starts (Ty) and post #39 from aroidgrower (Brian)
puggybw
11-28-2006, 06:50 AM
I'd like to address tlturbo:
I have read this forum pretty regularly for quite awhile, yes I did finally registered when the red Thai banana was offered. Frankly, there has never been anything posted that interested me enough to bother to register, just as with other gardening forums and forums regarding tropical plants etc.
The standard range of topics for these forums is "will my tropical plant grow in zone 4", "my sun and humidity loving tropical plant is not doing well in my dark living room with forced heat - why is that" and of course the common one. "gee it got to 25 degrees here last night and my tropical plant looks burnt".
Yes, there is a certain degree of sarcasm in the above paragraph, which is the reason I just don't respond, sarcasm doesn't come off very well in writing. Now, I don't fault anyone for wanting to grow whatever they do, wherever they do, but, it amazes me the lack of common sense and knowledge people use to try and grow something out of their climate.
But, in response to your comment, I did decide to post a topic, to which I have gotten a whole 3 replies. My personal opinion was it was a half ass okay question; afterall it is kinda hard to determine what kind of diameter a mature banana will have when all you are doing is staring at a small pup. Apparently though I was wrong that it is a dumb question that no one who grows any variety of bananas can answer - which of your plants has the thickest stems. So, I'll leave the more intelligent questions such as can my banana survive outside in Alaska, to the more knowledgeable folks.
It's kinda funny that both Agri-starts and Brian are "new" members as well and don't seem to have participated anymore in your lively topics. Whether I get a red Thai from Brian doesn't matter to me - he's just another potential source. I will find one sooner or later, be it from him or someone else. Here's the last time a red banana was offered on eBay, I am the losing bidder at $175. No signing up here for multiple names or fake names - you can see my id is the same here as is on eBay.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=130035580919
You can also see, I'm not afraid to spend the money. In this situation though, the plant is not worth $500 to me when I already know it is in tc.
Continue to have fun ruling your perceived little kingdom.
tlturbo
11-28-2006, 09:40 AM
In reply to PUGGYBW since you addressed your post toward me, and an apology up front to everyone else who has to read this.
YOU WROTE:>>I have read this forum pretty regularly for quite awhile, yes I did finally registered when the red Thai banana was offered. Frankly, there has never been anything posted that interested me enough to bother to register, just as with other gardening forums and forums regarding tropical plants etc.<<
I guess this first paragraph pretty well sums it up and explains why I made the post I did several weeks ago. Unless it is to your benefit, why bother registering and just saying HI and getting to know us. Obviously a lot of us on here are backyard growers, and one of the purposes of this type of forum is to provide help to anyone from beginners to the experts, and making new friends.
I do agree that some posts are annoying. If I read one more "How do I remove a pup" post, I'll scream. But at some point I'm sure I asked questions others saw as stupid or boring. These web sites are one of the best places to learn about your current interests. HEY JARRED - Maybe a FAQ secction?
YOU WROTE: >>Yes, there is a certain degree of sarcasm in the above paragraph, which is the reason I just don't respond, sarcasm doesn't come off very well in writing. Now, I don't fault anyone for wanting to grow whatever they do, wherever they do, but, it amazes me the lack of common sense and knowledge people use to try and grow something out of their climate.<<
That is called, dedication, desire and interest. How do you suggest they get this common sense if they don't associate with and ask questions of others that know a lot more than them? I had no idea how many people that live in colder climates actually dig up all their plants and store them under the house for the winter - THAT is a lot more dedication than I would have but more power to them.
YOU WROTE:>>But, in response to your comment, I did decide to post a topic, to which I have gotten a whole 3 replies. My personal opinion was it was a half ass okay question; afterall it is kinda hard to determine what kind of diameter a mature banana will have when all you are doing is staring at a small pup. Apparently though I was wrong that it is a dumb question that no one who grows any variety of bananas can answer - which of your plants has the thickest stems. So, I'll leave the more intelligent questions such as can my banana survive outside in Alaska, to the more knowledgeable folks.<<
I re-reading your post, all you asked for was suggestions of other dessert bananas that had thick pseudostems. I NEVER saw a question asking which of our plants had the thickest stem or how big your particular plant would get. I believe you received several suggestions and I will personally apologize to you for everyone on the message board who did NOT reply to you after you finally decided to honor us with your registration (oh yeah, I forgot about that red banana plant offer)
YOU WROTE:>>It's kinda funny that both Agri-starts and Brian are "new" members as well and don't seem to have participated anymore in your lively topics.<<
What a pleasure to have them join us. There was absolutely NO need for Agri-starts to see the effort we were all going through to get a red banana and contact Brian and suggest he make us an offer to get plants. I assume if you have been lurking on the board for some time, you read these posts and obviously had an interest in the Red since you tried to buy one on E-Bay. But did you register so you could join our effort? NO Only when the CHEAP offer presented itself did you decide to grace us with your presence.
And yes, YOU and your type were the main reasons I made that post. I can see no reason why people that found us boring and not worth associating with should reap the benefits of our efforts at trying to get a Red which resulted in the offer from Brian. I actually would limit the offer to those who offered to split the cost of a plant as we originally started out to do. Just look at how many people NOW have asked to buy one as compared to the number willing to originally split the cost. I'm sure when Brian made the offer he was looking at about 25 or so plants. I equate this to a community where several people want a boat ramp. They ask everyone in the community to help but only 5 neighbors do by chipping in time, money and effort to build a boat ramp in one of their yards but then when it is done, all the other neighbors who didn't want to help, think they should be able to use it too.
You wrote>>Whether I get a red Thai from Brian doesn't matter to me - he's just another potential source.<<
So let me get this straight. You don't care if you get a Red from Brian but you registered and made a post so you could ask for one even though you have never found any of our messages worth replying to and think many are stupid and a waste of time? I guess since you said you registered and made your post because of my comments I was right.
YOU WROTE:>>Continue to have fun ruling your perceived little kingdom.<<
I'm only a peon on here but I DO enjoy all the good friends I have made and I'm sure we all will enjoy our "little kingdom".
Have a good day.
Terry
I want to make sure I am on the list...thanks!
Mark Hall
11-28-2006, 02:33 PM
I felt the need to respond to puggybws thread as it p***ed me off a bit. We have a saying in the u.k that some people have more money than sense. I think he falls into that catagory. As for asking stupid questions...we all do it its called learning . so maybe puggybw you should lighten up....... or how do you say take a chill pill dude.
Mark
nucci60
11-28-2006, 03:46 PM
I agree with you ,Mark. It's easy to critisize tropical growers when you live in zone 10, South Florida. He can grow everything but Apples!
imdocrob
11-28-2006, 03:54 PM
Wow I go away for awhile and come back to such heated discussions. I agree with turbo, maybe the Red should be offered to the people who were willing to split the cost of buying an original Red before Brians offer was made. I am not sure if I was one of the ones who offered in time or not but it seems like there are several people out there who like some of the new members who are here for one reason only. I agree with turbo in that I feel I have made some nice aquaintances in this forum. If we are not good enough to share everyday questions with then we are definitely not good enough to share our bananas with. For those of us who dont live in zone 9 and 10, we pay a hell of a lot of money in heating, greenhouses and labor to keep our banana plantations up so it's about time you give us a break when we asks questions that seem sooo simple to you. I went to med school in California and I know how that climate is. You simply throw something on the ground their and it grows and thrives. It is a little bit harder to get bananas to grow and we appreciate any help we get from members in this forum. Okay stepping down from my SOAPBOX now.
tlturbo
11-28-2006, 05:34 PM
Thanks guys for the backup.
BUT I want you to understand that I also live in Zone 10, S FL AND I also have problems. I would LOVE to grow Hostas. I have killed quite a few in my attempts. Roses are also tough. Lots of things can't take the heat. I'm trying to get some Brugs to grow and some will take the heat and some won't. :2169:
I will admit that living here is a lot easier if you like bananas and palms (and staghorns, my other weakness) although the sun is tough on Ae-Ae and I have trouble with Jamaican Reds for some reason. I'm just a hobbiest and don't test soil PH and all that stuff. If it lives in the hole where I stick it, so be it HA HA
And YES, I have made quite a few nice acquaintances on here. I wish my plants were bigger so I could offer pups to people that ask for them. Maybe in a year or so.
Take care and Happy Holidays to everyone. :2787:
Terry
chong
11-28-2006, 06:28 PM
I agree with you ,Mark. It's easy to critisize tropical growers when you live in zone 10, South Florida. He can grow everything but Apples!
I don't know, but right now he's looking for "stout" bananas. So his bananas may not be doing so good during hurricanes. (LOL)
But seriously tho', I've seen Sabá and Abaca withstand up to 95 mph winds in the Bicol region, the typhoon belt of the Philippines. The Bicol region of the Philippines is the major source of Abaca - Manila hemp.
nucci60
11-28-2006, 06:29 PM
:2223: :2223: hi terry, being from New England, I would rather grow coconut tress than hostas. Or maybe bouganvilla! Bob
mudcat25
11-28-2006, 09:24 PM
Still new here, check in all the time, don't post much, could tell you how to grow hostas, just not going to work for most of you, if you'd like to try my way throw them in the ground in a shaded area, walk outside as my wife does and there they are,
I don't have any idea about the ph of my soil or how to "tc" a plant. I love to landscape my yard.
Then,
the banana tree.
Now I'm just here to look around a lot and I don't have many questions my season is on it's way though, so don't forget to keep posting pics cause I enjoy looking at them with great envy.
thanks to you, too turbo!
newbie
JoeS475
11-29-2006, 01:41 AM
Being one of the stupid, who actually dares to sometimes ask questions, I must say I really appreciate the friendly advice and atmosphere I get at Bananas.org! I've been growing plants for almost two years now (not much compared to most of you), but it is truly addicting, especially fast growing tropicals like bananas where you can see changes almost daily.
I'll be the first to say New Jersey sucks, and I'd kill to be in South Florida right now, like many members here, however the added challenge of keeping everything alive or dormant over the winter is fun for me. In South Florida you put it in the ground and your pretty much good to go!
Two years ago I couldn't tell one plant from another. Now I'm getting quite a green thumb, with much credit due to you folks at this forum who continually offer new advice and insights. My tropical collection is continuing to expand and thrive, and as I mentioned before, I'm really looking forward to the offer of the Siam Red from Ty and Brian! This will be my first rare plant, and I'm quite confident it will do very well up here in the Garden State (Tollbooth State)! Thanks again!
For the elite amongst us, PUGGYBW, this is for you: ------> :2780: :2780: :2780:
Kindest regards everybody else,
~Joe
aroidgrower
11-29-2006, 11:52 PM
Sorry to be late in responding to the post.
The list is now Officially Closed. 1 Plant per person sorry but I will have more once I have supplied my customers and so on.
MediaHound
11-30-2006, 08:02 AM
Thanks, Brian.
Nice run, huh?
:ropingnaner:
We really appreciate it :)
Please let us all know how to make our payments.
Will you be shipping them out come Springtime?
Kylie2x
12-04-2006, 02:10 PM
WOW!!!! Trouble in Paradise...LOL I always miss the good stuff dang it!!!
Looks like would be one of "those" (stupid question askin people)... Of course I don't think any question you ask is stupid if you don't know the answer...
Now that the offer has been closed. Is there a way to make sure that my name is on the list???
Once again Brian Thanks for making this available I am VERY excited!!
Blessings All!!
Kylie
MediaHound
12-04-2006, 04:06 PM
When did you first post on this thread?
Kylie2x
12-04-2006, 10:58 PM
Hey Jarred!!
That would be (ace of hearts) 10/19/06 @ 8:22 pm CST... I have also posted in this or the origanl thread of post only if buying /serious.. blah blah blah.. I read through all the debate about who could CT and if they could be sterle enough.. about Agri-start and who would contact them and THEN Ty and Brian come on board and I obligated myself THEN and thanked them for the offer.. I am not trying to scoot in on YOUR little deal I have been here and offerd up from the start!!
BLESSINGS!!!!
Kylie
Kylie2x
12-05-2006, 08:57 AM
Here is another post I made .. I didn't just show up out of nowhere...
Kylie
11-16-2006, 12:05 PM #112
Kylie2x
Junior Member
Kylie2x's Photo Gallery
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 20
Re: Post ONLY if getting "Siam Red" from Agri-Starts
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Hey!!!!
I haven't been able to post for a few weeks...LIFE!!!!
I am still in on the Siam... I think it sounds like a wonderful offer.. Brian and Ty Thank You for allowing us this oppurtunity....
Blessings
Kylie
MediaHound
12-05-2006, 04:30 PM
Then you're all good! I wasn't implying anything negative! No worries!!
Kylie2x
12-05-2006, 05:10 PM
Whew!!:nanadrink: Thank goodness...You had me going there. :2783:...LOL
Kylie
imdocrob
12-11-2006, 03:53 PM
I still think someone should compile a list of those who made the cut or not. I don't know if this is possible but thought I would recommend it anyway. Thanks again Brian for your generosity.
Kylie2x
12-21-2006, 12:49 AM
Hey!!
Just wanted to check in.. The Holidays have me runnin around like crazy!! I haven't had much time to spare...A List sounds good if there is anything I could do to help I would be more than happy to.This crazy-ness should be over soon. I hope everyone has a Safe, and Very Blessed Holiday Season and a Wonderful New Year!!!
Many Blessings
Kylie
imdocrob
12-21-2006, 03:25 PM
Thanks Kylie and you have a wonderful holiday season as well. Merry Christmas to everyone and hope all is well.
Rob
Kylie2x
01-07-2007, 11:51 AM
Hey!!!
I was just wondering where we stand on this or if there is any up date... Just now getting some free time ...Hope everyone is well.
Kylie
MediaHound
01-09-2007, 12:38 PM
I think when the weather gets warmer these will start to ship.
tlturbo
01-10-2007, 10:28 AM
Yeah, this winter weather really sucks. I actually had to put on jeans this morning instead fo shorts since it got in the low 50's last night.
Kylie2x
01-10-2007, 03:43 PM
OMG!!!!!
LOL.. Not the Freakin 50's!!!!! Hope you didn't have to iron those jeans....
We are lookin at a winter blast... today 65*.. Friday...callin for a low of 21*
I guess I better hold of that winter sowing for a few days...
Kylie
MediaHound
02-08-2007, 10:04 PM
This thread stuck, other thread (http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?t=1091) unstuck and closed.
:bananabeard:
MediaHound
02-08-2007, 10:16 PM
I will close the window of opportunity on Nov. 30th at that time if you have not put your name on this list to bad and you will have to wait for them to get released. Once the time has ended I will check the list and get your information so that spring they will go out as soon as they are ready. Once I have them I will email each person personally and wait for payment. Once paid they will be wrapped up and sent out priority mail. I will not be held responsible if your post office fails to get you the package. I will have a receipt as proof and hopefully tracking numbers for each plant. People in Hawaii or other states that have a tendency to have boxes lost with plants in them this would be at your own risk. I rarely lose boxes but had three go missing this year out of the thousands I had shipped.
I would ask that everyone interested in getting the banana to keep this offer personal and to the group. Bragging to others about this low price offer will not help me sell the plant once released and may get me hate mail. So please refrain from posting on other boards about this if possible.
If their are any questions do ask and I will put up the list Nov. 30th to make sure I have everyone's information. THANKS
For the people who miss out on this offer please do not beg or bombard me with e-mail. The plants will first be sold on ebay and then onto my web site. The price that they were sold here for was a one time offer. THANKS
Hi Brian,
Any estimate on the ship date? Can you start taking payments from everyone? I'm getting some inquiries and would like to know what to quote folks. Thanks in advance!
aroidgrower
02-08-2007, 11:00 PM
I have not yet gotten the plants so I would not feel good about taking money yet. From what I know they should be here this spring I am not yet sure if it will be early spring or later in the spring. I will see if I can find more info on exactly what date they will be ready.
Pithy_Cherub
02-09-2007, 12:58 AM
Has anyone made up the list, yet (Brian or ?) so everyone knows they are on or not?
From Brians' post:
If their are any questions do ask and I will put up the list Nov. 30th to make sure I have everyone's information. THANKS
I've been watching but haven't come across it yet.
BTW ... when the email came in saying this thread had an update, I almost had a fit! You'd think it was a call saying 'the baby is coming - time to drive to the hospital!'
GordonHawk
02-09-2007, 02:23 AM
Sure would like to see this get off the ground... Spring will behere before it's worked out... no doubt... Gordon:bed:
zergas
02-09-2007, 02:35 AM
again thank you brian for making this possible for all of us.
aroidgrower
02-09-2007, 11:34 AM
If I could get a list of every ones addresses and infomation it would make this go by much fast when they arrive. Personally I am a bit busy to email everyone that has posted and ask for this information to be put in to one clean cut email. But if someone would be kind enough to so do it would help out tremendously. I am currently working on a huge conservatory project in the greenhouse and once done I maybe able to do this myself. Once this information is collected I would contact everyone and after payment the plants will be sent out as soon as possible. Thanks
D'Andra
02-09-2007, 09:17 PM
Are you able to take paypal payments? We could just send account emails, you send invoices and we send payment with our addresses. I'm sure we can kick in a little more to cover the Paypal fees. Shouldn't be much more. (3.5%?)
aroidgrower
02-10-2007, 03:36 AM
I have a paypal acount and if you are set on paying now I will take payments and set aside a folder of people who had payed for when the plants arrive. It seems the paypal trasaction will be about 1.75 more for using paypal. Please include the shipping with this. I am not yet sure when the plants will be ready. From what I have heard April to May and that all is right on schedule if not better. So if your set on going ahead and paying it will be 45.00 for the banana 7.00 shipping and 1.75 added if you use paypal. Once you pay please do not email me weekly about were the plants are LOL. I will post a reply to here to let everyone know and send personal emails as the boxes go out. If I hear more I will post it up to let people know.
Another thing I am a bit worried about will be the size of the plants. I am not sure how large these plants will be in some cases they are 3 inches to 6 inches tall. So if their is a certain size 4 to 7 inches that you want the plant to be it may be a bit longer. I do not want to send out really small plants and have them die. I have no idea what they will look like till they are here.
D'Andra
02-10-2007, 03:49 AM
Sounds great!
I can wait for larger plants as I'm sure everyone else would also prefer a more established plant.
When I say this I mean, I Can Hardly Wait!
aroidgrower
02-10-2007, 03:57 AM
When they arrive I will take a few photos and let everyone see. Thanks I look forward to growing about 20 in my landscape this year as well.
Pithy_Cherub
02-10-2007, 04:02 PM
I have a paypal acount and if you are set on paying now I will take payments and set aside a folder of people who had payed for when the plants arrive. It seems the paypal trasaction will be about 1.75 more for using paypal. Please include the shipping with this. I am not yet sure when the plants will be ready. From what I have heard April to May and that all is right on schedule if not better. So if your set on going ahead and paying it will be 45.00 for the banana 7.00 shipping and 1.75 added if you use paypal. Once you pay please do not email me weekly about were the plants are LOL. I will post a reply to here to let everyone know and send personal emails as the boxes go out. If I hear more I will post it up to let people know.
Another thing I am a bit worried about will be the size of the plants. I am not sure how large these plants will be in some cases they are 3 inches to 6 inches tall. So if their is a certain size 4 to 7 inches that you want the plant to be it may be a bit longer. I do not want to send out really small plants and have them die. I have no idea what they will look like till they are here.
Should we PM you to get the PayPal account link/name to send to you? I would rather have it paid earlier rather than later (drives my insurance, electric, phone companies etc crazy ... I have a fetish @ paying early - as a just in case I lose a client & go broke measure! LOL!).
And I like the offer to hold them till they get some growth, that's a thoughtful gesture on your part - thank you! I'm antsy but not so impatient that I wouldn't wait for the best option for it thrive - I can wait.
You get 20 of these beauties planted out ... you better bring LOTS of photos when they 'get their grow on'! OMG, that's gonna be a spectacular display!
aroidgrower
02-10-2007, 08:29 PM
My paypal account address is
pugturd@alltel.net
I have two pug dogs they helped me get the old email name.
D'Andra
02-10-2007, 08:32 PM
pugturd!!! ROFL! Thats great!
MediaHound
02-10-2007, 09:01 PM
:)
A friend's pug site
http://www.pugsrule.com
aroidgrower
02-11-2007, 03:27 AM
The website is aweful LOL. I cannot think of any of my two pugs dieing. It is a good thing she is doing careing for these dogs but very sad to see how they each had problems that lead to their deaths. I have two pugs a solid black on which is now getting a bit gray MR. Spock and a fawn girl name Gerty Williams. Here they are at christmas.
Kylie2x
02-12-2007, 01:34 AM
SOOO! What is the deal with the "Siam Red"?? I got an E today sayin something was going on.??? I have upped on this from the start.. I looked back in posts and doesn't seem like much has happened.. What am I missin here...LOL???
We have a working Ranch and I haven't been in that much...Did I get cut out of this deal?? I'm so confused.. this has been an on going thing and I have tried to keep up ..BUT I just have TONS of life..happening..Damn ...
Kylie
Kylie2x
02-12-2007, 01:39 AM
LOL.... Did I mention I have CASH!!!!
Kylie
aroidgrower
02-12-2007, 03:29 AM
You have not missed much some people were interested in paying early so my info for doing so was posted up. I will hopefully have them come April May if all goes well and then I will be releasing them to you guys.
Pithy_Cherub
02-16-2007, 03:37 PM
My paypal account address is
pugturd@alltel.net
I have two pug dogs they helped me get the old email name.
Done & done - loved the 'pugturd' nick! I need to see if anyone has used the nick 'cat_turd' - that would be apropos for our house.
But it was kinda funny to explain why I had the giggles to the kiddoes when I was typing up, LOL!
.
aroidgrower
02-16-2007, 05:56 PM
Thanks I got your payment and will let you know more as they get ready. As for the email address I have. I first was on AOL years ago. They asked me to come up with a email address. I think I was their for several hours typing in all sorts of combinations. Finally my dog who was a puppy then used the bathroom on my floor. Thus the name pugturd was typed into the AOL site for a possible email account. To my suprize it was not taken so I kept it. The name has sense stuck with me over the years.
imdocrob
02-19-2007, 03:50 PM
Well I can't wait til spring. Thanks again Brian and I will wait until you get the plants and post some pics. I don't think we need to pressure you into anything. We have all waited for this plant, I am sure we can all wait a little longer. So whatever is the easiest way to make payment and when it is timely for you then let us know. Thanks agian for this wonderful gift.
Rob
Kylie2x
02-26-2007, 01:29 PM
WOOOHOOO!!!!
It was 76* yesterday.. I have almost completed the THRONE for this baby!!!LOL...I am really looking forward to getting it and will pay when ever you need it.. Just let me know..
Blessings |
Kylie
aroidgrower
03-28-2007, 08:40 PM
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!!!!
Well friends it is that time of the year. I hope you all are getting prepared. I have just recently been given a few of the saught after bananas Siam Ruby. Which to my suprise was bright yellow in color. They have sense started turing red with age and in brighter light. I am going to auction off these few on ebay. I have been told that more are on their way in the next week or two. So people who have already payed I will be sending yours out first. For those interested in paying now here is how to do it.
I have figured that adding it to my website it will make it much easier to keep records and information from everyone.
So go to my site at briansbotanicals.net
go to the banana section to the right
Now the red banana is being sold as DON"T YOU DARE BUY THIS
it has my dog Mr Spock in the photo.
This will only be up for 2 weeks. please do not tell your friends this offer was only for this group and this group alone!!! DO NOT order more than one (one plant per household). This was part of the deal. As more plants come in I will have them up forsale on the site but probably at higher prices till the market brings them down to this price!!!
You are allowed to get other items from my site and add it to this order if you wish.
This Offer expires in 2 weeks. Please act fast.
I hope they grow well for you all. THANKS
imdocrob
03-29-2007, 02:38 PM
Just went to website and bought mine. Thanks again Brian for this wonderful offer.
Rob
blonddude
03-29-2007, 02:56 PM
I sent for mine too! Yay!
:0495:
Steve L
03-29-2007, 02:58 PM
Paid for mine early this morning.
Steve
lwabirds
03-29-2007, 05:11 PM
When will the plant be shipped if we pay for it today?
NANAMAN
03-29-2007, 06:14 PM
Thanks again Brian, I can't wait to put mine in the ground!
aroidgrower
03-30-2007, 08:49 AM
I will be shipping out a few plants Monday. Then more next monday. I have many other orders so these will be worked in with the rest of the orders going out. So if you get it to me now 1 to 3 weeks at the latest.
lwabirds
03-30-2007, 09:15 PM
does anyone know the hardiness zone of this species?
D'Andra
03-31-2007, 06:49 PM
Paid! Thanx sooo much. Some really cool plants on your site. I'll have to check back when I get more space (e.g. my greenhouse finished).
Again, Thank You!
Pithy_Cherub
03-31-2007, 11:56 PM
Now ... it's formally Xmas!
Good thing this monitor isn't a 2-way thingy - I'd be embarrassing myself mightily right about now (picture Snoopy's happy dance ... w/a big, fool grin!)
You're a sweetheart for doing this for the group, pugturd - thanks so much!
Kylie2x
04-02-2007, 09:17 AM
Paid!!!! Great web site!!!! I enjoyed looking around and made a wish my list...
Thanks again for all your help in getting this done...
Kylie
pitangadiego
04-06-2007, 12:34 AM
Not much to start from - miracle if it lives.
http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP950-44.jpg
aroidgrower
04-06-2007, 01:04 AM
That looks aweful. I have no idea why it would look like that. It looks like it was cooked? Email me at brians botanicals will talk about a replacment. anyone else get their in this shape? Maybe it wont ship well?
MediaHound
04-06-2007, 01:20 AM
Got mine today, looks similar but not dessicated like that. Mine looks like it should make it. Thanks, Brian!
I wonder how long till we get the red! Can't wait!!
lwabirds
04-06-2007, 07:42 AM
that banana froze during shipping. We've had some really cold weather up here in Ky/OH area. It will still grow though
Steve in France
04-07-2007, 10:46 AM
Mine arrived a few days ago , it is fine , I just want a good new leaf to grow in the next couple, of weeks and I know it will be really fine . Snow here in D.C. overnight . I guess I'll be putting plants out for the day when it warms up again in a few days. Aroids I recieved also potted on.
Yes that plant looks like it has frost damage , baby it and it maybe fine.
Later
Steve
Pithy_Cherub
04-09-2007, 09:05 PM
Happy me, happy ... happy!
It looks like it had a long trip, but nothing that will keep it from recovering! Postman delivered this AM before I left for work, so all I had time for was a couple smooches (the banana, NOT the postman!) & to put it on the plant rack (grow lights).
Just got home & she (yes, SHE ... I can tell! LOL!) has already perked up a lot. Leaves were a bit limp, but they've firmed & lifted up just in this little time under the lights. It's the pale green/yellow in the pitangadiego's pic but w/less damage, and the root system looks healthy. I want to baby her for a few before repotting & giving any direct sunlight, even though I'm anxious to start seeing red. Baby steps ... baby steps!
Thanks again, Brian - you've made a fan here! Pugturd is gonna have a good home (my kiddoes have been calling the plant Pugturd since I had to explain why I was laughing when I sent you the PayPal!). Xmas is now complete! Thank you ... thank you - it was a most generous offer & I am appreciative of the way you've handled it (& us!).
.
aroidgrower
04-09-2007, 09:24 PM
I am extremely glad the plants are coming in. I shipped them out when it was 80s here and then the cold came in. I plan to replace the one shown that was severly damaged. I hope all of these turn out well I have seen a few mutations already in trays of plants. Some with dark green and lime yellow variegation and other mutations. I am keeping most all of them to see what comes of it. I will post them if their is something new and odd.
aroidgrower
04-09-2007, 09:27 PM
For people looking to order one. The deal will be gone tomorrow night. After that I am very sorry for the ones who missed out. THANKS
I will have them up forsale on the site but now open to the public and a much different price. THANKS
GordonHawk
04-09-2007, 10:43 PM
Thanks Brian... Mine came in and it seems fine.. I was trying to post to you before to thank you... but I lost the e-mail before it could be sent ... while mucking about trying to include a picture.. which I was hesitating doing as it looked so perfect.. and might make others feel slighted...
and I hate to say this... it also has a pup..
OK...I guess it's another complete miniscule little little plant from the TC 1/8" inch away from the big one... and barely showing..
so thanks Brian .. you've brought such great joy to Mudville..
Gordon
tlturbo
04-10-2007, 08:03 AM
Brian - sent a PM
bigdog
04-10-2007, 09:38 AM
I'm kind of glad mine hasn't shown up yet. The last six mornings here have been as follows:
31.6
30.4
22.5
17.2 (!)
28.9
28.4 (this morning)
No more freezes in the forecast though. All new growth on the trees has been killed, dogwood blooms toast, azalea blooms toast, etc. It went from a beautiful, warm Spring, straight down the toilet here. Nothing is blooming now, except the tulips and a couple of other hardy bulb plants.
Brian, did you get my pm? Thanks.
Steve L
04-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Know how you feel Bigdog. We had sleet periodically Saturday during the day. Our only salvation was that it stayed about 38 degrees and it melted. I had just planted all of my plumeria trees two weeks before and hauled 20 containerized heliconia out of the greenhouse. Fortulately, I'm not finding much damage yet.
Brian, I sent you a pm also.
Steve
JoeS475
04-10-2007, 11:36 AM
phew just got my order in! I'm a little concerned about the overnight lows in the 30s and highs in the 40s for the next week... did other peoples plants arrive ok after being shipped in similar temps?
Kylie2x
04-12-2007, 02:08 PM
Mine arrived today!! YEAH!! The top was broke off but the plant itself was hardy good size and very healthy... There is one leaf that has some signs red color I am very interested to see how it progresses... Brian THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Kylie
NANAMAN
04-12-2007, 04:20 PM
Mine just came in today, looks like it's in good shape, can't wait to see the color develop!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2550&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2550)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2549&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2549)
Thanks again Brian!!
D'Andra
04-12-2007, 06:38 PM
Ours just came in. YAY! It was broken over about 1/3 of the way up but should make it. Propped it up against a stick. Really a nice plant though. Thank You Brian!
When our we going to start a thread on the success and methods for this plant? I'm eager to see pics as others grow.
aroidgrower
04-12-2007, 08:03 PM
I am wondering with all the bent leaves and such if you think I could do anything different in my packing to keep this from happening? I have been using sleeves and newpaper to wrap them up also taping them to the inside of the box. I am just wondering if anyone knows something that could have been done that could have prevented any of the damage that has been shown from shipping? I know these are very fragile plants and bananas are not the easiest things to ship out specially if your looking to have all very nice leaves straight out of the box. Hopefully their is a method that is better? THANKS
bigdog
04-12-2007, 08:23 PM
Mine also arrived today. The lower leaves have been injured from cold, and the bottom part of the pseudostem is slightly bent, but I think that it will be fine. I wish I could offer you some advice on the packing question, Brian, but I don't really have a lot of expertise in that area. Your packing job looked fine, and the M. textilis in the same box arrived in great shape with no leaf injury at all. I suppose that they are just very tender, easily injured plants at this stage. I think what caused the bent pseudostem was the fact that you had newspaper taped to the top of the pot to prevent the soil (and the plant from falling out of the pot. It surrounded the pseudostem, and there was no support for the top part of the plant. So when the box itself got jarred around a little, the pot stayed taped firmly to the side of the box, but the portion of the plant above the pot had some wiggle room within that paper bag. I really don't have a solution to prevent this, except to say ship in a smaller box or ship larger plants.
When do they start developing red leaves? Mine are completely green.
Bob6012
04-12-2007, 08:49 PM
My Siam Green arrived today. 3 inches tall.....oh, the emerging leaf was broken and holding on by one strand. So, for $53.00 I got a 3 inch broken plant that is green and not red.
But, in all fairness to Brian, his web-site does state that he hates complaining 'picky' customers. If you are 'picky' you should buy your plants from another dealer. He must get tired of all the e-mails complaining of shoddy shipping.
And the worst part is I had to listen to my wife all day repeating "I told you it was a hoax" over and over and over.
So, if you're interested in a Siam Red I have some AMAZING! GENUINE X-RAY GLASSES to sell you........only $45.00 plus shipping and poor handling.
NANAMAN
04-12-2007, 08:51 PM
I have received plants with wooden dowels extending to the end of the box, you could package several in a box that way. That method worked well! I'm always fascinated by the way different vendors package their plants!!
bigdog
04-12-2007, 08:57 PM
My Siam Green arrived today. 3 inches tall.....oh, the emerging leaf was broken and holding on by one strand. So, for $53.00 I got a 3 inch broken plant that is green and not red.
But, in all fairness to Brian, his web-site does state that he hates complaining 'picky' customers. If you are 'picky' you should buy your plants from another dealer. He must get tired of all the e-mails complaining of shoddy shipping.
And the worst part is I had to listen to my wife all day repeating "I told you it was a hoax" over and over and over.
So, if you're interested in a Siam Red I have some AMAZING! GENUINE X-RAY GLASSES to sell you........only $45.00 plus shipping and poor handling.
Bob, I really don't believe that this is appropriate. If you have a problem, you should just email him directly, and not air it out on the internet. I'm sure that Brian would be more than happy to take care of your issues if you contacted him directly. However, doing it this way will immediately put him on the defensive. He was good enough to give us all first shot at this plant, not available anywhere else, and at a discounted rate. Give him a break.
aroidgrower
04-12-2007, 09:19 PM
Well I thought I would share the conversation completely with the group if this is to be made public as it already seems to be. You can make your own judgements from what has been written on both sides of this story. I believe I explain myself to the best of my ability.
I must say I DONT believe I will ever do anything like this again.
<p>
Dear Mr. Turd,
I received my Siam Green today. Enclosed is a photo of said non-Red plant. Notice that the top is broken off..........but in all fairness to you I should have read your disclaimer on your web site that notifed all potential customers that you've had so many complaints from previous customers that you folks do a ****ty job and if we don't like it we should just buy our stuff from another dealer. You're just plain tired of the complaints, right? I don't blame you one bit. It must be tiresome to get complaint after complaint after complaint everyday from us 'picky' customers about the shoddy workmanship you put out.
P T Barnum said it correctly " There's a sucker is born every minute."
Robert Ramey
Zachary, La
<p>
Here was my reply to this email.
<p>
OK well this has been an interesting Email. Lets first get something's straight. I care greatly about my customers and my products. I try to send great plants at good prices to collectors. I did not in anyway try to send you a plant in that shape. So it was not a personal thing as you seem to believe. I send the plants to the best of my ability and if the packing is wrong I will do my best to fix it. Your plant does not look anything like what was packed out and shipped a few days ago. The fist thing you should do is send me a email with the photo showing me the plant much like you already did. In this email you should tell me the problem in a reasonable manner and what you thins might have caused the problem in a reasonable way. Next I look at the photo and determine what should be done about it and who or what was at fault. I believe a few factors maybe in play as to why your plant looks to be in the shape it is in. Possibly it was not packed well or maybe the cold weather was to blame for some damage to the plant.
So from looking at your photo I would say I should replace your plant.
<p>
Also I should add that in the description it says( I quote - The leaves which are the main attraction for the plant are dark red in color with small spots of neon green. When young the leaves are usually bright yellow to green in color.) End quote.
<p>
Please send me your name and address for a replacement plant. Or you can send this plant back for a full refund this is up to you.
<p>
PS. I would recommend for future emails to not use harsh or rude language when email me. I do not mind helping fix a problem like this or answering emails. But I do not enjoy reading emails like this. I am doing the best I can do and as you can see from my extremely kind offers I do care. So please do your best to show the same respect and kindness. thank you
Brian William's
D'Andra
04-12-2007, 09:26 PM
I would suggest using skewers or some other type of dowels. I use 2 for pots the size you shipped. Get the dowels to a length that barely fits in the box and stick them through the tape that covers the top of the pot. Pack them as you did before with the sticks in there and you shouldn't have that problem anymore. Now, when I say shouldn't...it may not always work. I've ordered tomatoes from gardenerschoice.net before and 1 year all 6 plants were sheared off at the ground level. I have no idea how it could happen but it did. Every other year I've ordered from them they were packed the same way with no problems. Many plants I've ordered in the past have been shipped using the stick method. Give it a try and put a plant in a box for 3-4 days just like you'd ship it. Every day pick it up to shoulder level and drop it to the floor. After 3-4 days open it up and see what you got. We use methods like this to check shipping and packaging for our live earthworms. This way we may lose 12 worms as opposed to 12 lbs. or 24+ thousand.
Hope this helps, and thanx again!
STEELVIPER
04-12-2007, 09:36 PM
How about cutting the bottom off a 2-liter plastic cola bottle and some how using the top to cover/protect the leaves? I think it would work for the smaller plants.:2725:
aroidgrower
04-12-2007, 09:46 PM
Here was the conclusion to all the drama. from these email! I feel I have offered all I could.
From Bob6012
Brian,
I'm not interested in a replacement plant. This one experience with you will do quite nicely, thanks.
My email back
The feeling is mutual. I have no idea why you would post something like this on a board with out first talking to me about it. I also have no idea why you would be so pissed off. After I was willing to fix the problem to the best of my ability.. I offered all I could and if that is not enough so be it. I tried!!
I FEEL I DID ALL I COULD!!!
D'Andra
04-12-2007, 09:51 PM
Not a bad idea Mark.
I might add I've also had plants shipped to me (bananas) that were taped to a stick with Scotch tape (mmmm... Scotch). The tape pulls away from the wet plant but sticks to the dowel. That should help keep it in place.
One thing I hope people keep in mind is that this is a plant that is new to shipping, so the methods have to be tried before they are perfected. And even then, plants are a perishable item. They are not always going to be perfect when you get them.
What I should have posted when ours got here was:
I thought I was getting a dog! Where the heck is my Spock!
Now for that Scotch!
D'Andra
04-12-2007, 09:56 PM
You did right Brian. Let it go and don't let it keep you from being so generous and nice in the future. One bad experience can stick with you forever if you forget about all of the good you have done for so many. Take a moment and think of one persons life you've touched in a positive way today instead. I bet you can think of more than one!
JoeS475
04-12-2007, 10:13 PM
Brian,
I'm eagerly awaiting my plant, and realize that between non-caring employees of the shipping companies and cold weather there is a chance the bananas won't arrive looking like perfect display plants.
Lucky for me I have a brain and can read what you put on your web site, and also know that young plants don't necessarily have the same coloration as their adult counterparts. My zebrina had just pupped and it is taking a while for it to turn red.
Thank you again for the offer, and speaking for the rational vast majority of people here, we appreciate your generosity and hope that in the future you will continue to give us unique plants at a fair price!
D'Andra, pass the Scotch!
~Joe
pitangadiego
04-12-2007, 10:28 PM
Brian has already said that he would replace my plant, which had been frozen or fried.
Most shippers of potted plants now use a bamboo stick inserted in the pot, which is the length of the box, which keeps the pot from shifting up and down in the box. All of my fig trees were shipped that way. Taping the pot was insufficient. Let's face it, both the Post Office and UPS abuse a lot of packages, testing the limits of their endurance. I have had several packages from both carriers this year that were damaged, missing contents, etc. To some extent it is a "crap shoot".
STEELVIPER
04-12-2007, 11:25 PM
How about writing "Fragile " on the box? Maybe the guys at UPS, or the U.S. Post office will not use it for a baseball or football if they see the word fragile?:0493:
D'Andra
04-12-2007, 11:27 PM
:nanadrink: Joe, my 2 year old "had" to help me make dinner so as you can imagine there's not much left but just a little of this will do 'ya.
Pitangadiego Makes a very good point. We ship and recieve several packages a week, and no matter what carrier you use damages are going to occur. Since you brought up the word bamboo, I have to tell you my black bamboo I bought last year has just shot up 6 shoots. These are growing at a rate of 4 inches a day. I know, I know, but, I'm really excited. Pix to follow later (my partner ran over my camera!).
I had an E. ventricosum I started from seed that froze and looked really bad. It's about 2inches shorter than the others that I started at the same time but it's coming back strong. I've had a few bananas arrive that were broken off at soil level. Every one is still growing. I have taken a pup (DC) at 6 inches with absolutley no roots (looked like a piece of celery) and it died completely only to send up another pup about 4 inches away that is doing great.
My point here is
!. Dont post after drinking!
2. Even though it's been said so many times, don't give up on the plant you've got in your hands!
aroidgrower
04-13-2007, 01:07 AM
If you have a damaged plant and feel it needs replacing please send me a photo or email to
briansbotanical@alltel.net
You should hear back from me very soon afterwards.
I believe the plants are brittle possibly due to being grown under the misting system. So my plan is to grow them out larger before and harden them off more before shipping them. I also plan to test a few to see which way maybe best to ship them. Most everything I ship in sleeves or wrapped in newpaper does fine but this seems to be an exception. I tried to get them grown out to a nice size and shipped out as soon as possible for the people here.
Thank you for everyone who is understanding and has helped out.
Mustang
04-13-2007, 02:42 AM
When I occasionally post fragile/small plants, I use plastic pop bottles, as someone has already suggested. I cut almost completely (but not quite) around the neck. Drop the plant inside. Burn 4 holes in the bottle just level to the top of the pot/root wrap, and use soft wire fed thru the holes to keep the root ball in place and stop it moving. I then tape the top of the bottle back down, reforming the bottle shape and therefore making it stronger again. You could also fill the bottle with packing such as polystyrene or newspaper shreds?
Size of plastic bottles reflect the size of the plant ... use the smallest possible.
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I've also know a nursery who devised their own box to prevent it getting squashed. They put a 'roof' on the top of the box to stop other boxes being stacked on top, and help the box being kept the right way for bigger plants.
tlturbo
04-13-2007, 07:10 AM
Brian,
Bob6012 joined in Jan 2007 AND his complaint post was his 2nd post. This is obviously not a regular member, just someone taking advantage of your generous offer and then has the b...s to complain. Maybe fate intervened here? PLEASE just write this person off. I'm sure he won't be a regular on the board.
Obviously since he got in on this deal, his FIRST post was to get the offer. It is QUITE OBVIOUS as to WHY he is on this board. He either stumbled across the offer while "lurking" or someone told him about it. This is what I was complaining about when you first offered this deal. Anyone could join and get in on this offer. Many of us went to great lengths to try and figure out how to TC this plant before you came along and graciously made your offer. I still think it might have been better done thru PM's instead of on the open forum but that' my opinion.
I got mine yesterday and I didn't see any evidence of damage to the box. I LOVE the Pop bottle idea.
I agree, we need a thread for ONLY those that got a plant for progress reports. I also would like to know the growing conditions these were under so I won't alter it too much. Like is there any fertilizer in the soil? How about diluted Peters, etc?
Terry
Carolina
04-13-2007, 07:36 AM
Looks like I missed out on a deal. Ah well, I'm always a day late and $100 short. :)
About shipping... seems like you'd have to find a cost effective solution. I would imagine you do tons of shipping. The further something has to go the bigger chance for damage which is understandable. I received an order from Plant Delights yesterday. Not a mark on the box and plants were -wonderful-. But it came only about 100 miles in less than 24 hours.
mudcat25
04-13-2007, 04:25 PM
I recieved my plant yesterday. I had joined just before the original post. My new hobby (plants) had really just started to take off. I was a little skeptical of this new banana and the idea of going in on a deal of buying a $500.00 plant and hoping to get one after someone tc'd (something that I had know idea of what this meant) this one plant. As I kept this idea in mind and kept tracking the progress of this thread I still had not made my mind up. Then Brian came along with this deal and I thought why not give this a try. This being my first internet buying experience, I was still quite skeptical.
My plant was not in the best condition a plant could be in but it is also the first plant I've ever recieved through the mail. For that I think it came in fair condition!
I'm still a little nervous about this plant as I'm not as experienced as others here. My little six inch plant of $50 is a long way from where I want it to be, but hopefully with the help of others I can keep it alive and be very excited about a very rare banana and of being one of the first people to have one.
So to Brian I say "Thank you". You made this an easier decision with your offer.
And to the rest of you who bougtht this;
PLEASE HELP ME KEEP THIS ALIVE!
Bob (Not that Bob)
Steve in France
04-13-2007, 05:28 PM
I was lucky enough to join the board as the tread was starting and got on the list. My plant has been here for a week and is doing fine in a big pot by the window , it has a new leaf and the new leaf has a hint of pink in one area , Cool. I cannot wait for it to get big . Thanks to Brian again and all the Aroids are doing well too .
Later
Steve
aroidgrower
04-13-2007, 05:51 PM
I thought I should share this with the group. As you can see from my post I am trying very hard to get these plants to you fast and it good condition. I know many of you wanted them as soon as they came in but I felt growing them out a bit would be better. Still they are fairly small but the pressure to get them to you before anyone else is the main reason I put sold them at this size rather than a month or two later.
I have been growing them under mist with fertilizer injected into the mist ever 30 minutes for 20 seconds. They also have osmacote time release fertilizer on them. I can usually get a small plant to 1 foot or more in just a month or less under these conditions. The main problem here is this plant seems to be more brittle than most when grown this fast. So I plan to slow the growth of them down and add some Magnesium sulfate to harden them up more.
I have been shipping plants for over 10 years and this one has shown to be a bit more tricky than others. Most the plants I ship out seem to arrive in good to perfect condition. This one being and exception. I believe the best thing maybe to allow them to grow out a bit more and to harden them off. I am not sure if their is much more I can do to the packing to prevent what we have seen. I have looked into adding more shreeded paper and stiffer sleeves. But the problem maybe more in the plant being brittle now rather than the packing. So I will see what I can do to change that.
aroidgrower
04-13-2007, 05:56 PM
I thought I should post this up. This was sent to me today from Bob6012 about the Musa Siam Ruby that was damaged.
Brian,
Please accept my apology for my outlandish and childlike behavior the last three days. My personal attacks on you were simply atrocious and my posting of a private grievance on a public forum was unacceptable and it can only chalked it up to medication. Aricept is not as cracked up as the commercials tout.
Feel free to post this on the banana site as I'll no longer be visiting it as the embarrassment is far too great.
Someday, if you live long enough, you'll understand the changes we go through...........it's a mess.
Again, I'm sorry and I wish you good fortune for the future,
Steve L
04-14-2007, 06:32 AM
Brian,
Mine came yesterday. The new emerging leaf was broken but the plant is in fine shape and should grow nicely. Thanks for your efforts.
Steve
MediaHound
04-14-2007, 08:27 PM
I recieved my plant yesterday. I had joined just before the original post. My new hobby (plants) had really just started to take off. I was a little skeptical of this new banana and the idea of going in on a deal of buying a $500.00 plant and hoping to get one after someone tc'd (something that I had know idea of what this meant) this one plant. As I kept this idea in mind and kept tracking the progress of this thread I still had not made my mind up. Then Brian came along with this deal and I thought why not give this a try. This being my first internet buying experience, I was still quite skeptical.
My plant was not in the best condition a plant could be in but it is also the first plant I've ever recieved through the mail. For that I think it came in fair condition!
I'm still a little nervous about this plant as I'm not as experienced as others here. My little six inch plant of $50 is a long way from where I want it to be, but hopefully with the help of others I can keep it alive and be very excited about a very rare banana and of being one of the first people to have one.
So to Brian I say "Thank you". You made this an easier decision with your offer.
And to the rest of you who bougtht this;
PLEASE HELP ME KEEP THIS ALIVE!
Bob (Not that Bob)
Congrats on your choice to give it a shot. This internet thing really works! :2691:
What I did with mine was up-pot it into about a three gallon sized pot. I used a good quality potting soil mixed with a bit of compost for nutrients.
I keep it on a covered patio and keep the soil damp by misting it down every day or two. It shouldn't dry out and it also shouldn't be soaking wet. This combination of the outdoor warmth, filtered light, and good nutrition and ample space to grow is doing it perfectly.
When it gets larger, I'll move it out of the patio and into filtered sun for part of the day, see how it fares, and then slowly increase the light intensity and duration by moving it around to different spots and maybe even moving other things around to give it some shade.
mudcat25
04-15-2007, 09:16 AM
Jarred, Thanks for giving me some guidelines for keeping my new banana alive. I will definetly go with your way as compared to my guessing. I had a new leaf on it that was starting to come out and now is begining to open so the plant seems to be fine. I'm just a little nervous with such a delicate plant. Please keep any advice coming. I'm always lurking here, just don't post much.
Thanks,
Bob
the flying dutchman
04-16-2007, 12:55 PM
Here is the WIKI - page for Siam Ruby. (siam red)
http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_Siam_Ruby
Any info or pictures are so welcome.
Ron
NANAMAN
04-19-2007, 06:11 PM
The color is starting to develop nicely, what a difference a week can make!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2702&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2702)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2550&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2550)
aroidgrower
04-19-2007, 06:25 PM
Great to see the colors coming out. I have to keep them in a shaded greenhouse for now till the temps will agree with them. I need to post the odd balls that I have pulled out some variegated and odd streaked forms. I will do it as they grow up a bit they may just me young mutations.
Pithy_Cherub
04-19-2007, 08:46 PM
The color is starting to develop nicely, what a difference a week can make!
Nice, NANAMAN!
My 'Pugturd' is getting hints of color change, but I have to keep looking to be sure it's not 'my wanting to see' as opposed to really seeing (if that makes sense?). There are definite color changes on the stem, & tiny spots coming up on the leaves. Makes me feel less crazy seeing yours - I really didn't expect to have any red coming up this soon!
Mine was a wee bit smaller than your 1st pic, but she's growing well (we have a new leaf since arrival - YAY!) & catching up! I gotta get a camera ... your pics of the progression are a great idea!
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MediaHound
04-19-2007, 08:47 PM
Brian's shop on ebay:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZaroidgrower
MediaHound
04-19-2007, 09:03 PM
thread unstuck, too, btw
Now the wait is on for the next cool rare banana to hit TC...
:2732:
Pithy_Cherub
04-19-2007, 10:11 PM
thread unstuck, too, btw
Now the wait is on for the next cool rare banana to hit TC...
:2732:
I've got a feeling that just might be in Brian's 'oddballs' -
snipped from his post up ^ there:
'I need to post the odd balls that I have pulled out some variegated and odd streaked forms. I will do it as they grow up a bit they may just be young mutations.'
Brian? Briiiiaaaannn? We're ready for the next wave! Pictures, please .... lots of 'em! :0496: (when you're ready, I likes to tease!)
.
NANAMAN
04-19-2007, 11:45 PM
Nice, NANAMAN!
My 'Pugturd' is getting hints of color change, but I have to keep looking to be sure it's not 'my wanting to see' as opposed to really seeing (if that makes sense?). There are definite color changes on the stem, & tiny spots coming up on the leaves. Makes me feel less crazy seeing yours - I really didn't expect to have any red coming up this soon!
Mine was a wee bit smaller than your 1st pic, but she's growing well (we have a new leaf since arrival - YAY!) & catching up! I gotta get a camera ... your pics of the progression are a great idea!
.
Thanks Pithy_Cherub, I didn't expect to see mine color so fast either, but I've been giving it 6-8 hours of direct sunlight a day. I wish I would have taken pictures daily to show the progression,in the last 2 days, the changes have been dramatic!
tlturbo
04-20-2007, 06:48 AM
I CALL FOUL !!!!!!
Nanaman has TWO pups!!!!:woohoonaner:
Congrats on the color. Mine is still all green but about the same. I'm too scared to put it in any direct sun so maybe that's why.
Thanks again Brian.
Terry
NANAMAN
04-20-2007, 10:33 AM
Congrats on the color. Mine is still all green but about the same. I'm too scared to put it in any direct sun so maybe that's why.
Thanks again Brian.
Terry
Thanks Terry, I just like to push the envelope as far as sunlight goes, usually after 2/3 days, the plant adjusts to it & really starts to take off. Besides, as you pointed out, that 2nd. pup is my backup plan. Ha!
Steve in France
04-20-2007, 06:12 PM
Temps going up here in Bethesda, I'll put plants out tomorrow in the shade and see how the Siam Ruby starts to colour up.
Brian if your looking in I have a thread in 'other plants' that would benefit from your expert attention . :)
Thanks
Later
Steve
Pithy_Cherub
04-20-2007, 06:20 PM
I CALL FOUL !!!!!!
Nanaman has TWO pups!!!!:woohoonaner:
Congrats on the color. Mine is still all green but about the same. I'm too scared to put it in any direct sun so maybe that's why.
Thanks again Brian.
Terry
ROTFLMAO .... noticed that too, didja? I just averted my eyes & kept repeating to myself: That's okay, MY luck is gonna hit on the Ae'Ae fruiting/date contest! Seeing all that red on his Siam made it easy to look at, too!
I'm being skeery/cautious, too - between the cold snaps that keep sneaking in & the kitty critters prowling my garden, I'm letting it get some 'grow on' before setting it outside for more than a few hours a day. AND only when I'm home to keep a wary eye on her!
Chipping in w/your shout-out to Brian ... he done us all a good turn here, w/humor & grace. Thanks, Brian!
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NANAMAN
04-26-2007, 04:29 PM
Here's pictures at 2wks,1wk,and day one. Does anyone else have pics of theirs yet?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2718&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2718)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2719&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2719)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2720&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2720)
aroidgrower
04-26-2007, 08:07 PM
I set one out in full sun and it is looking much like your photo above. It's good to see the red coloration coming in. I have seen a few with more streaking but all in all they seem to be turning red.
STEELVIPER
04-26-2007, 08:26 PM
Looking good Nanaman. Looks like she is stating to take off in growth and color. very nice!:weightliftingnaner:
Steve in France
04-26-2007, 09:12 PM
Mine is a about a leaf behind that nice one , a little leaf burn from too much sun , my fault.It's in shade for the afternoon now , it just gets morning and late afternoon sun and is happier.Mine also has that little pup thing growing at the side , I guess they all do. I hope the little pup is dividable at some point.
Later
Steve
JoeS475
04-27-2007, 10:54 AM
Man those pics are starting to look good! Can't wait for mine to get here, but since I ordered on the very last day of the offer I may have to keep waiting a bit! It'll be worth it I'm sure. Keep posting more pics! :2726:
Thanks,
~Joe
JoeS475
05-02-2007, 03:13 PM
Got mine today! Its healthy with just a hint of red starting on the largest leaf, and has the little pup attached also!
Gonna pot it now I guess and get it in full sun asap, at least for a couple of hours a day.
Thanks again Brian!
~Joe
pitangadiego
05-02-2007, 08:59 PM
My replacement arrived today. The apparently frozen one only hung in there about a week. This one looks great. Thanx.
AnnaJW
05-03-2007, 03:38 AM
Mine finally bit the dust. :(
No fault of Brian's. USPS just beat the crap out it.
I'm loving the pics! What a beautiful plant!
chong
05-03-2007, 11:19 PM
Mine finally bit the dust. :(
No fault of Brian's. USPS just beat the crap out it.
I'm loving the pics! What a beautiful plant!
Anna,
Why not email Brian and tell him what happened. He said he was going to guarantee the product, and it included protection from shipping mishandling. He appears to be very upfront guy. I'm sure he'll work something out with you. If this happened to me, that's what I would do.
So far, I've been lucky. I got mine with all the leaves bent and the pot was even cracked. And I was in Walnut Creek, CA when it arrived in Seattle WA. A week later, I was back and saw the condition of the plant. I now have it with me in Walnut Creek(hand carried it with my miniature guavas) and last week, I saw a hair of a leaf trying to push thru. Today, the leaf almost 2 inches long and it looks like it wants to grow!
Chong
AnnaJW
05-03-2007, 11:34 PM
Hi Chong,
I did write/send pics to Brian. I was just hoping that the plant would make it. It really tried to. Brian was great, and did say he would send a new one.
That is great about yours! I hope it continues to grow! They sure are beautiful plants!
chong
05-04-2007, 12:33 AM
Hi Chong,
I did write/send pics to Brian. I was just hoping that the plant would make it. It really tried to. Brian was great, and did say he would send a new one.
That is great about yours! I hope it continues to grow! They sure are beautiful plants!
Wow! I knew Brian was a stand up guy! My hat's off to him!
mudcat25
05-04-2007, 04:06 PM
Sorry to hear about your banana. Great to hear you are going to get another. I've been really worried that mine would not make it(being so new to the plant growing world). So far all seems well and I am finally starting to see some red begin to show. Can't wait for a few more months then maybe I'll feel a little more confident that I will not kill it. Would love to see others to know that mine is progressing the way it should. Good luck to all.
Bob
bigdog
05-04-2007, 06:32 PM
Mine showed up pretty beaten up as well, with a bent pseudostem and burnt leaves. Since then, I've repotted it, and it has straightened its pseudostem and been growing nicely. I even have a pup, like several others do. It is, however, still very green, with not even a hint of red showing yet.
NANAMAN
05-04-2007, 08:40 PM
heres pictures of the Siam Ruby at day1, wk1, wk2, wk3. the color change has been amazing!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2550&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2550)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2702&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2702)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2718&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2718)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2827&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2827)
Pithy_Cherub
05-04-2007, 09:19 PM
Outstanding pics, Brian!
Mine is at the stage of your 2nd pic going into the 3rd - it's outside full time now, but has semi-shade for the midday. How many hours a day of full sun are yours getting? Absolutely stunning, & exciting to see!
My daughter made some rather 'unkind' remarks @ my potting setup - I've got it surrounded by those long, wooden, shish-kabob sticks (pointy tip down) to keep the critters from having a laydown on it or use it for a bathroom till it has a corm to grow back from. Now I KNOW that sounds like pathetic gibberish, but I've had cats & dogs completely wipe out plants before .... ain't gonna happen this time! Shish-kabob pungi sticks work - they try to step or lay on it once & never again, but don't get hurt more than a prick.
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mudcat25
05-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Thanx for the pics Brian and the time progression. Mine is also probably at your second week photo. Great to see what I have to look forward to. Mine is in a pot far from where my dog can get to it. Hope to keep it around to show some pics of one growing in MO. I've had it outside for a week now but we've had a lot of rain and clouds so hopefully some sun this week will bring out a little more red. Good luck to all!
NANAMAN
05-05-2007, 01:23 AM
[QUOTE=Pithy_Cherub;12353]Outstanding pics, Brian!
Mine is at the stage of your 2nd pic going into the 3rd - it's outside full time now, but has semi-shade for the midday. How many hours a day of full sun are yours getting? Absolutely stunning, & exciting to see!
It is in direct sun all day now, has been for about a week!
BGreen
05-05-2007, 06:48 AM
I recieved mine last week and I was happy it arrived looking great!
The new leaf has now opened up, and now I'm waiting for it to show signs of turning red ;)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2743
hey friends,
sorry for being missing in action for the longest time :(
The siam red that u guys got looks lovely and they're sure to grow into beautiful plants. did'nt know they start out green from tc.
Mine was given to me by a friend. It was a really weak offset but now it has grown much stronger.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/ghundu88/plants/IMG_9610.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/ghundu88/plants/heliconias/IMG_9622.jpg
imdocrob
05-08-2007, 02:41 PM
Hey I was wondering Brian if someone could post a list as to when the rest of us poor souls will receive our plant. It has been several weeks since I sent my payment and just want to know where in the order of things I am? Thanks for your generous offer again. Rob
imdocrob
05-08-2007, 02:43 PM
I went back and found that I paid for mine on 3-29-07 if that helps at all.
NANAMAN
05-14-2007, 06:02 PM
here's the latest pics of Siam Ruby at 4 1/2 wks.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2968&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2968)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=2969&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2969)
AnnaJW
05-14-2007, 06:05 PM
Truly stunning!!!
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