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Abnshrek
08-04-2010, 10:22 PM
Recently Dan (banimal) suggested I look into this stuff. So I went to the site and read about the studies done especially the banana one, but the corm is impressive as well. I did and applied it 4 days ago. :^) Now I have a leaf on my Ice Cream coming out of a leaf not completely open. The leaf I posted on the Cali-Gold the leaf that just opened has a leaf 3/4 of the way up the center of the leaf in close up. So its definitely doing its job. I'm happy :^)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=35244&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=35244&date=1280911680)
Feel free to chime in about your experiences with it. :^)
Richard
08-05-2010, 12:16 AM
At 900 ppm Fluorine, I think I'll stick with Uranium Nitrate. :)
Azomite Certificate of Analysis (http://azomite.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=11)
bananimal
08-22-2010, 03:51 PM
Uranium Nitrate -------hmmmmmmmmm-----------bananas that glow in the dark --- Wow
Abnshrek
08-06-2013, 12:33 PM
bananas that glow in the dark --- Wow
I bet they would have one hell of a shelf life.. :^)
PR-Giants
08-06-2013, 12:55 PM
Azomite is the "BEST" and this quote proves it....
"Ninety percent of the tomato plants treated with compost and AZOMITE®, bloomed three weeks ahead of the tomato plants with fertilizer alone." --- Kirk Waterstripe, Ph.D., Professor of Botany
Clearly the :drum:AZOMITE®,:drum::drum: AZOMITE® and compost, or :drum::drum::drum:compost :ha::ha::ha: made the difference.
bananimal
08-06-2013, 02:42 PM
I still have a big Azomite bottle left from Peaceful Valley. My regimen for planting new bananas these days is dig a hole 16 inches wider and 3 inches deeper than the corm or rootball. I make a 50:50 fill mix of the dug out dirt and an organic mix. Organic mix is peatmoss, certified organic compost and black Kow manure. As well as azomite and 4 or 5 cups of worm castings. Also I wet the naner corm and roots and dust with mychorrizae powder. This operation is best done in the kitchen sink.
I fill and tamp to set the top of the corm an inch or 2 higher than soil level. Finish fill in and topdress with a cup of 6-3-16 and Purdue chicken litter. Set the water emitters in place and whallar! Fruit to eat in a year or less.
sunfish
08-06-2013, 03:25 PM
I still have a big Azomite bottle left from Peaceful Valley. My regimen for planting new bananas these days is dig a hole 16 inches wider and 3 inches deeper than the corm or rootball. I make a 50:50 fill mix of the dug out dirt and an organic mix. Organic mix is peatmoss, certified organic compost and black Kow manure. As well as azomite and 4 or 5 cups of worm castings. Also I wet the naner corm and roots and dust with mychorrizae powder.
I fill and tamp to set the top of the corm an inch or 2 higher than soil level. Finish fill in and topdress with a cup of 6-3-16 and Purdue chicken litter. Set the water emitters in place and whallar! Fruit to eat in a year or less.
You forgot to add the kitchen sink
Abnshrek
08-06-2013, 04:15 PM
You forgot to add the kitchen sink
Its all in the detail isn't it.. :^)
sunfish
08-06-2013, 04:40 PM
Its all in the detail isn't it.. :^)
It's all something
trebor
08-06-2013, 06:01 PM
bananimal probably has some great looking trees with all the care he gives them , Geeze ....
Hmmm Azomite. :0)
OK I use it and would not think about not using it. If your growing things other than Musa . Im sure most of us are. And you live in Florida , growing in SAND . You will need a little something to make your plants flourish. Florida has so many different soils it kinda funny. Adding Azomite is the single best thing other than water to have success. Papaya growing alone with out it will grow! I meet people who have Papaya and I love to go to there home and treat one tree with Azomite. BANG the blooms go crazy and the fruit will begin to grow like in a dream. My phone will ring and I hear all manor of thank yous. Recently I planted a Sour Sop and I used a normal amount of Azomite in the soil. My neighbor from Central America has a Sour Sop also . When he saw my tree nice and green with nice shiny leaves he was walking in circles . He kept looking at me and saying “ You SOB you better tell me what the F you did to this tree”… Its probably the best thing I have ever used.. The sand just needs all the help you can give it .. I use it quarterly. Also some sea weed tea is good along with compost of any type .. When I can dig and see worms I know Im in the zone
Richard
08-06-2013, 11:07 PM
Azomite is a product that encourages consumers to pay for the removal and redistribution of Aluminum Silicate. I suppose I might consider it for ornamentals. I wouldn't consider it for edibles - especially Citrus.
servatusprime
08-07-2013, 08:24 PM
At 900 ppm Fluorine, I think I'll stick with Uranium Nitrate. :)
Azomite Certificate of Analysis (http://azomite.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=11)
Azomite is a product that encourages consumers to pay for the removal and redistribution of Aluminum Silicate. I suppose I might consider it for ornamentals. I wouldn't consider it for edibles - especially Citrus.
So is the theory that the this stuff will make its way into the fruit and create some health concerns? Would a safer alternative with similar benefits be greensand? (other readily available suggestions?)
Thanks.
Richard
08-07-2013, 11:17 PM
So is the theory that the this stuff will make its way into the fruit and create some health concerns? Would a safer alternative with similar benefits be greensand? (other readily available suggestions?)
Thanks.
Greensand is a way for rock quarries to sell crusher dust instead of paying for its disposal elsewhere. It does contain a lot of minerals, but they are in covalent form and unavailable to plants.
On the other hand, it is beneficial to have sand and rock dust as a component of a garden soil -- along with a modest percentage of humic material. The sands and rock dust will provide important catalytic action for exchanges of ionic compounds.
There is no panacea in gardening, in human health, etc. If you are looking for a "silver bullet" -- go load up a shotgun and shoot all your plants. It will save you a lot of money and effort.
servatusprime
08-08-2013, 09:07 AM
There is no panacea in gardening, in human health, etc. If you are looking for a "silver bullet" -- go load up a shotgun and shoot all your plants. It will save you a lot of money and effort.
Thanks Richard. If anything I was looking for a "green bullet" (insert exceptional photoshop image by Trebor) It seems that many people tout azomite's benefits, but I can understand your health concerns with the product. I think I'll look into greensand more. My soil could use some help.
trebor
08-08-2013, 06:28 PM
Thanks Richard. If anything I was looking for a "green bullet" (insert exceptional photoshop image by Trebor) It seems that many people tout azomite's benefits, but I can understand your health concerns with the product. I think I'll look into greensand more. My soil could use some help.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=54090&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54090&ppuser=7970)
servatusprime
08-08-2013, 08:10 PM
LOL! That's awesome!
Snookie
08-09-2013, 06:42 PM
Hummmm I heard a few folks were using this product?
Any comments on it's effectiveness?
http://www.pictureshack.us/images/25030_container_2lb.jpg
Richard
08-10-2013, 03:47 AM
Analysis (http://www.dinomiteplantfood.com/analysis.html)
Hummmm I heard a few folks were using this product?
Any comments on it's effectiveness?
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stevelau1911
08-11-2013, 11:09 PM
I use azomite to supplement my NPK 5-10-5 fertilizer application, and I do happen to get very heavy production on my garden plants. It's possible to see some pictures of some of it on the following threads.
bambooweb.info • View topic - Starting seeds for spring for gardening or perennials (http://bambooweb.info/bb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3975&start=60)
bambooweb.info • View topic - Edible perennials? (http://bambooweb.info/bb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5344&start=75)
Fbris
08-22-2013, 09:21 PM
What is the application rate?
Abnshrek
08-29-2013, 09:41 PM
I finally tried some on my Tomato's to see how it might inspire them.. :^)
sunfish
08-29-2013, 10:04 PM
I finally tried some on my Tomato's to see how it might inspire them.. :^)
Have fun
Abnshrek
08-29-2013, 10:10 PM
Have fun
Picking them, indeed.. :^)
sunfish
08-29-2013, 10:13 PM
Picking them, indeed.. :^)
Have a nice day
Abnshrek
08-29-2013, 10:23 PM
Have a nice day
You too Tony.. Tomorrow I think I'll post some pic's of what Azomite has done w/ my 2nd yr. Hamlin Orange.. :^)
Abnshrek
08-30-2013, 11:11 AM
Hamlin not on Azomite
http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r698/Bucko13f/Hamlin13083013_zpsef171cc3.jpg (http://s1362.photobucket.com/user/Bucko13f/media/Hamlin13083013_zpsef171cc3.jpg.html)
Hamlin on Azomite
http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r698/Bucko13f/Hamlin12083013_zpsaf69a39a.jpg (http://s1362.photobucket.com/user/Bucko13f/media/Hamlin12083013_zpsaf69a39a.jpg.html)
Snookie
08-30-2013, 03:05 PM
Hummm.....Dat stuff sounds
http://www.pictureshack.us/images/83408_th.jpg
PR-Giants
08-30-2013, 03:48 PM
Grub - Before eating banana plant treated with Azomite.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31545 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=18809&ppuser=820)
After
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/keithpr1/After_zps5c6c58d2.jpg (http://s979.photobucket.com/user/keithpr1/media/After_zps5c6c58d2.jpg.html)
Bruno before Azomite Doggie Treats.
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/keithpr1/BeforeDoggieTreat_zps135b62de.jpg (http://s979.photobucket.com/user/keithpr1/media/BeforeDoggieTreat_zps135b62de.jpg.html)
After
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/keithpr1/AfterDoggieTreat_zpsc0f78589.jpg (http://s979.photobucket.com/user/keithpr1/media/AfterDoggieTreat_zpsc0f78589.jpg.html)
Abnshrek
08-30-2013, 11:19 PM
Man I'll be on the look out for them monster grubs.. :^)
Richard
09-22-2013, 12:26 PM
Azomite and "rock dust" products (e.g., green sand) have two important things in common:
Nearly all the minerals listed on the package are in a form unavailable to plants; i.e., covalent compounds.
The sources are residuals from rock quarries who would otherwise have to pay to dump this largely unusable by-product somewhere else.
Having said this, I should also point out that either of these are useful as a ONE TIME additive to a soil mix. Soil mixes are typically void of covalent rock subgravels and dusts. When present, they become important catalytic sites for ionic exchange. Again, the plants do not uptake the covalent rock material and so it never leaves the soil mix. There is no benefit but possible negatives to adding it more than once.
While talking about plant products that advertise unusable minerals, I would like to mention that the same is true of the plant hormone products Superthrive, Liquid Seaweed Extract, and Kelp solids. It is the hormones in these products that cause the benefit you see, and not the long list of rock minerals.
Snookie
09-22-2013, 12:34 PM
Hummmm...I've heard of Dolomite....uh Rudy Ray Moore lol; however not familiar with Azomite:}
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Rudy_Ray_Moore.jpg/448px-Rudy_Ray_Moore.jpg
Abnshrek
10-23-2013, 10:38 PM
For those folks out there that just want to try it.. There is a 2lb sampler packet available.. :^)
MICROBIAL EARTH FARMS – AZOMITE (http://www.microbialearth.com/micronized-azomite-sampler-shipping-included/)
Abnshrek
10-23-2013, 11:20 PM
I believe Richard thinks a young gardener may be influenced by a get over tactic in gardening, and quit.. Anyone growing banana's should grow them well (hone your skills) before you seek short-term benefits (like spring recovery) of this product.. I don't think I'd use it more than once a year even though some people do.. I'm sure Richard makes his case as you can read below.. So you young Gardeners have your soil mix down, know when your plants can handle full sun, and when it gets hot as hell partial shade can do some good. Azomite doesn't replace a good 2-1-3 Fert.. augmented of course.. :^)
Azomite and "rock dust" products (e.g., green sand) have two important things in common:
Nearly all the minerals listed on the package are in a form unavailable to plants; i.e., covalent compounds.
The sources are residuals from rock quarries who would otherwise have to pay to dump this largely unusable by-product somewhere else.
Having said this, I should also point out that either of these are useful as a ONE TIME additive to a soil mix. Soil mixes are typically void of covalent rock subgravels and dusts. When present, they become important catalytic sites for ionic exchange. Again, the plants do not uptake the covalent rock material and so it never leaves the soil mix. There is no benefit but possible negatives to adding it more than once.
While talking about plant products that advertise unusable minerals, I would like to mention that the same is true of the plant hormone products Superthrive, Liquid Seaweed Extract, and Kelp solids. It is the hormones in these products that cause the benefit you see, and not the long list of rock minerals.
stevelau1911
10-23-2013, 11:34 PM
I think azomite on bananas is a simple waste of money if it's ornamental bananas as it only aids in the quality of the fruit production. It might help a bit in overall growth, but the micronutrients provided in it are usually only beneficial if you have deficiencies of it in your soil already. For example if you are already giving your bananas a nice fertilizer, and it is still turning yellow or rotting, then I would give azomite a shot.
Some things such as root rot can be a result of things other than nutrient deficiencies such as drainage which can be amended by organic materials, or gypsum. calcium deficiency often results in sudden browning, or rot on new leaves.
Something like urea, or manure is definitely more bang for the buck. I would only recommend azomite as a supplement to the garden if you are growing stuff for food, and you want an edge in overall production, but it definitely doesn't replace the macro/ NPK nutrients.
Richard
10-24-2013, 01:44 AM
I would never use Azomite on a food crop.
I think azomite on bananas is a simple waste of money if it's ornamental bananas as it only aids in the quality of the fruit production. It might help a bit in overall growth, but the micronutrients provided in it are usually only beneficial if you have deficiencies of it in your soil already. For example if you are already giving your bananas a nice fertilizer, and it is still turning yellow or rotting, then I would give azomite a shot.
Some things such as root rot can be a result of things other than nutrient deficiencies such as drainage which can be amended by organic materials, or gypsum. calcium deficiency often results in sudden browning, or rot on new leaves.
Something like urea, or manure is definitely more bang for the buck. I would only recommend azomite as a supplement to the garden if you are growing stuff for food, and you want an edge in overall production, but it definitely doesn't replace the macro/ NPK nutrients.
Snookie
10-24-2013, 02:59 PM
I would never use Azomite on a food crop.
DOLEMITE agrees with you:}
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwNjIwNzk4Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzMyNzYyMQ@@._V1_SY317_CR6,0 ,214,317_.jpg
trebor
10-25-2013, 09:22 AM
I can agree with what Richard said about if you plant is growing then adding supplements is not such much of an advantage. But lets add to that the proven facts about plant growth. If a plant is lacking in minerals it will only grow to the size that the plant has available minerals for .. Or in simpler terms, if a plant were to have a need for one mineral it stops functioning at that point and continues in other areas to complete it’s life cycle.
So his saying its not needed is very true if your soil is properly supplemented with NPK and some other natural supplement.. Perhaps compost, Cow Manure, Urea .. If your bananas are growing like a weed then no need to toss money into the ground needlessly..
Also if you have a garden with several different types of plants growing then adding one pound per 10 feet of the garden area is a great idea, It answers the question as to “ Does it need it? ” Ya only need do it once per year . Its very cheap and you will have that possibility completely taken out of the picture.. Yes you can go to bed and sleep knowing its all there. Then add you NPK as needed.
An added note here about this type of product.. It’s a regional thing.. Haaa I mean if you live in Florida and are growing in sand. Get your sand tested Stop being so cheap! TEST IT.. It will come back to you with a letter of doom and gloom .. Sand needs help.. And for all you guys living in areas with decent soil ya have no idea how hard it can be to grow a tomato in sand.. So we look to improve our soil differently than others. Bananas need good soil.
I totally agree with Richard .. Use NPK and other natural stuff as mentioned above.. I also agree with ME Asomite is a good supplement I like it
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It can be use to cleanse your body. I would not try this. LOL. What's next?! Cleansing with your compost!
bananimal
10-25-2013, 02:42 PM
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It can be use to cleanse your body. I would not try this. LOL. What's next?! Cleansing with your compost!
Hey Tony - you try it first and let us know how everything comes out. lol
Snookie
10-25-2013, 04:32 PM
WOW......
http://images.cryhavok.org/d/5069-1/H+is+for+Holy+Crap.jpg
sunfish
10-25-2013, 05:27 PM
Hey Tony - you try it first and let us know how everything comes out. lol
Hey Dan I think you need it more than me. Maybe you should pass some around at your garden club.
Abnshrek
10-25-2013, 06:01 PM
Hey Dan I think you need it more than me. Maybe you should pass some around at your garden club.
You saying Dan is a Member of the Tall-Tale Gardening Club? lol :^)
Abnshrek
04-15-2014, 08:25 PM
This weekend I will be breaking out, Tablespoon to jump start all that will grow.. The pellets work just as good as the Micronized.. They both dissolve in water, pellets just require a lil patience.. :^)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41aGGoB%2B6-L.jpghttp://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4400/004ed/products/44/images/135/azo_product_9230__76322.1335922097.120.120.jpg?c=1
Abnshrek
04-15-2014, 08:41 PM
(I know Richard isn't going to Like this) but this product works great on Pineapple for growth and pupping (Banana's included), but is not the only source of Fert you should use on plants.. :^)
skiarun
08-18-2014, 07:48 PM
Pretty soon you are going to have bananas growing on your bananas.
jeffaroo
05-13-2015, 06:54 PM
If you have a Geiger counter sniff out your azomite. Results are shocking
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