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Rallele
06-27-2010, 03:55 AM
Hi,

last year, probably my sikkimensis Musa 'Red Tiger'mit Musa yunnanense produced a hybrid.

The yunnanense the only male flowers at this time and the Red Tiger was the only female flowers.

Germination was poor. A hundred seeds just came out eight plants. Should be normal for hybridization.

To honor my Business colleague, I have this new hybrid variety named Elke's Hybrid.

Today had made a picture of this.

http://img.webme.com/pic/b/bananenzentrum/elkeshybride.jpg

Musa yunnanense like the shadows and sikkimensis Musa 'Red Tiger' like the sun. Stay tuned.

Greats Ralf

jmoore
06-27-2010, 04:27 AM
Wow, many congratulations!

Do you grow your bananas underglass?

Rallele
06-27-2010, 04:36 AM
Wow, many congratulations!

Do you grow your bananas underglass?

Hi,

May to October in the open and in winter under glass

Greats Ralf

Dalmatiansoap
06-27-2010, 04:56 AM
This is something now! Great work and let it grow high!
:nanadrink:
Lets hope U ll get few more sprouts as well.
:woohoonaner:

Rallele
06-27-2010, 05:38 AM
Hi,

the Elkes Hybrid seems to be very sensitive to light. One I planted in an area with evening sun and a short midday sun. Three are in the greenhouse.

They've got the greenhouse leaf damage by the sun. Even in the shade with a short midday sun, there was damage.
Need to test further.
http://img.webme.com/pic/b/bananenzentrum/elkes4.jpg

http://img.webme.com/pic/b/bananenzentrum/elkes1.jpg

http://img.webme.com/pic/b/bananenzentrum/elkes5.jpg

Greats Ralf

Gabe15
06-27-2010, 06:11 AM
Did you hand pollinate your 'Red Tiger' flowers, or did you just find seeds in the fruit? Do you have any photos of the young female flowers and fruit that you collected these seeds from? There are ways for banana to self pollinate, so I am just trying to determine if you made this hybrid on purpose or if you are just assuming it is a hybrid.


If it is a real hyrid: Due to the high heterozygosity of wild banana, and since you are dealing with two different species making progeny, each seedling will often be drastically different. You should keep track of each plant and treat them as separate varieties. You may find that some are very weak and slow, never amounting to much, while a particular seedling may be exceptionally vigorous.

Rallele
06-27-2010, 08:02 AM
No in this case stood side by side. I have left to the bees pollinate.
A hundred seeds germinated only 8
They are really very different.
One has a dwarfism.
Two came as twins.

Greetings Ralf

BB73
06-27-2010, 08:13 AM
The(se) hybrid(s) could quite cold hardy? The parents are!
(Herzlichen Glückwunsch!)

bigdog
06-27-2010, 02:05 PM
Very interesting hybrid! Please keep us updated on their performance in your climate. Thanks,

Frank

Basjoofriend
06-27-2010, 06:36 PM
Hi Rallele,

congratulations to you. Your hybrids seem to be more Musa yunnanensis in the sensivelity against midday sunlight, might be more one forest banana. This might be problematic in my new yard in Brazil, but I will plant them in the shadow of trees after changing the soil.

But one cross between Musa basjoo and sikkimensis might be better. We need more hardy banana hybrids, also hardy fruit bananas which are even much hardier than Orinoco, as hardy as the basjoo.

Best wishes
Joachim

Raules
06-28-2010, 04:53 AM
Good results! My congratulations Ralf!

Caloosamusa
06-28-2010, 07:08 AM
Congratulations Rallele!!! I am looking forward to seeing the fruit from these!!
Since they are species crosses, some of them may be almost seedless. "The domestication of bananas have occurred many times in different places." Your efforts are appreciated!!!

Good weather and good growing!!! :2239: