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DaveE
06-25-2010, 12:59 PM
If you have a California Gold that is over a couple feet tall will you take a closeup picture of the base of one of the top leaves and post it here? Or compare it to the two pictures below and report which one it resembles. A short history would be helpful also, such as place of purchase, height and height at flowering if applicable.

Thanks,
Dave

Namwah

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33242&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33242&ppuser=6909)

Orinoco

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33241&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33241&ppuser=6909)

DaveE
06-25-2010, 01:02 PM
Here is mine that I bought from Rick, it is now 34" pstem height.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33243&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33243&ppuser=6909)

Abnshrek
06-25-2010, 01:59 PM
My Cali Gold (from Harvey) :^) 27.5" P-Stem
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33244&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33244)
Dwarf Orinoco
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33247&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33247)
Texas Star 1
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33245&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33245)
Texas Star 2
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33246&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33246)

sunfish
06-25-2010, 02:10 PM
From Taylor 1' 4" pstem
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33249&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33249&ppuser=2868)

From Jeff Earl 5" pstem That's $20 an inch
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33248&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33248&ppuser=2868)

Abnshrek
06-25-2010, 03:15 PM
Well here's an Ice Cream as well :^)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33250&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33250)

harveyc
06-25-2010, 04:34 PM
Dave, I don't recognize exactly what we're looking for. Your Namwah photo has a new leave emerging through the petiole so it's hard to compare the photos.

For the record, Michael's pup came from my plant which I bought directly from Jeff Earl during a personal visit.

Gabe15
06-25-2010, 05:14 PM
Be careful with this descriptor, it often changes with age on the plant. The base of a young leaf on a sucker can look very different from a large leaf on a mature plant. It can be used to differentiate plants like any descriptor can, but it is not very discriminating and it is only useful for IDing when used with other descriptors.

DaveE
06-25-2010, 05:16 PM
Dave, I don't recognize exactly what we're looking for. Your Namwah photo has a new leave emerging through the petiole so it's hard to compare the photos.

For the record, Michael's pup came from my plant which I bought directly from Jeff Earl during a personal visit.

Hi,

Im trying figure out if their is a consistent leaf shape / characteristic with CG.

If you look at the base of the leaf where the blade meets the petiole
does it have more of a cordate or truncate shape?

Orinoco / Dwarf Orinoco have a more truncate or flat across the bottom shape and Namwah has more of a curved / lobe shape at the bottom. The bottom of the leaf blade is substantially lower than the point which it meets the petiole. On Orinoco / Dwarf Orinoco they sometimes look like they have more of a curve if a tear occurs right where it meets the petiole. I also noticed that sometimes Orinoco will have a few leaves that the left side of the blade is cordate and the right side, last to unfurl, is truncate. I have 8 large Dwarf Namwah and they all seem to have a more consistent shape. Keep in mind this is on large mature type leaves.

DaveE
06-25-2010, 05:32 PM
Be careful with this descriptor, it often changes with age on the plant. The base of a young leaf on a sucker can look very different from a large leaf on a mature plant. It can be used to differentiate plants like any descriptor can, but it is not very discriminating and it is only useful for IDing when used with other descriptors.

Thanks Gabe,

You can see a good example of that on Tony's second photo.

Dave

Abnshrek
06-25-2010, 07:05 PM
You can see a good example of that on Tony's second photo. Dave

One thing we don't know is how tall it is in the P-stem. :^) Other than the 5"er lol

Jananas Bananas
06-25-2010, 08:29 PM
Here's mine - three different leaves from the same plant - California Gold purchased this Spring directly from Jeff Earl off eBay, not old enough to flower, P-stem 17 inches - total plant height 36 inches:

youngest leaf
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33275&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33275)
middle leaf
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33274&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33274)
oldest leaf
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33273&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33273)

Largest leaf is 24 inches long by 12 inches wide and that is the youngest leaf. Total leaves on the plant currently is 7 leaves.


~JaNan

DaveE
06-25-2010, 08:47 PM
Here's mine - three different leaves from the same plant - California Gold purchased this Spring directly from Jeff Earl off eBay, not old enough to flower, P-stem 17 inches - total plant height 36 inches:

~JaNan

Thanks JaNan!

Dave