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Randy4ut
06-18-2010, 10:32 AM
I took some pics of my palms that are planted out in the backyard and thought I would share. I experienced approximately 240 consecutive hours below freezing this past winter and only the Butias were protected. Received some frond damage, but all in all not bad...

Here is a picture of one of my Sabal louisianas:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/001.jpg

Queen palm:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/004-1.jpg

Butia capitatas:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/008.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/009.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/011.jpg

Trachycarpus fortuneis:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/005-1.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/006-1.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/017.jpg

Sabal Brazoria:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/007-1.jpg

Needle palm:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/014.jpg

Sabal etonia:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/013.jpg

Sabal 'Birmingham'

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/016.jpg

Sabal minor 'Hatteras':

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/012.jpg

Another Sabal 'louisiana' in bloom:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/Palms%202010/015-1.jpg

Abnshrek
06-18-2010, 12:57 PM
Looks great Randy, where's the mules you got? :^)

Bananaman88
06-18-2010, 02:35 PM
Pretty darned impressive!

saltydad
06-18-2010, 03:47 PM
Amazing, especially about the Queen palm. Beautiful!

Randy4ut
06-18-2010, 04:44 PM
Looks great Randy, where's the mules you got? :^)


Still potted up and will remain that way for a LLLLOOOONNNGGGG time!!!

natej740
06-18-2010, 11:17 PM
Great looking palms thanks for the pics! What kind of Elephant Ears are those 2nd pic up from bottom? The ones with the spots.

jeffreyp
06-19-2010, 12:05 AM
Looks great Randy, could pass for central Florida

palmtree
06-19-2010, 01:46 PM
Wow. Beautiful palms! I really love those huge pindo palms and dont get me started with that beauitiful queen palm!! Its in such a large pot, how do you manage to take it in every winter? I have to admit, these are probably the lightest palms you can ever carry but still it must be a lot of work when its in a pot that huge!
Those sabals are looking very happy and I like the clean windmills too (and the ones with the fiber still on them too!)

Very nice job, everything is looking perfect!

Randy4ut
06-19-2010, 02:55 PM
Great looking palms thanks for the pics! What kind of Elephant Ears are those 2nd pic up from bottom? The ones with the spots.

Colocasia 'Mojito'

Dean W.
06-19-2010, 03:00 PM
Looks great, Randy!

saltydad
06-27-2010, 04:08 PM
Randy-I'm asking the resident expert (you) on cold hardy palms for some advice. As you know, my windmills and needles fare well through the winter. Butia eriospatha did not make it through 2 winters ago, despite mulch, burlap and plastic protection. I now have 2 smallish but very nice C. humilis (European Fan Palms) in the silver form. They came from HD as 'Cold Hardy Palms'. I contacted the nursery (Bell Nursery) as was told that for my zone 7, the mulch, burlap and plastic would suffice. I'm leary about leaving them outside; the butia I lost was a true beauty. I have a B. capitata now twice as big that is definitely coming inside. Any advice in the C. humilis?

Here's a pic of one of the Europeans.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32749&size=1

Dalmatiansoap
06-27-2010, 04:20 PM
Try to keep them dry as much as is possiblle. Regular green variety is hardyer than blue/cerifera.
Mature plant here
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/split/Split016.jpg
:woohoonaner:

Randy4ut
06-27-2010, 04:55 PM
Randy-I'm asking the resident expert (you) on cold hardy palms for some advice. As you know, my windmills and needles fare well through the winter. Butia eriospatha did not make it through 2 winters ago, despite mulch, burlap and plastic protection. I now have 2 smallish but very nice C. humilis (European Fan Palms) in the silver form. They came from HD as 'Cold Hardy Palms'. I contacted the nursery (Bell Nursery) as was told that for my zone 7, the mulch, burlap and plastic would suffice. I'm leary about leaving them outside; the butia I lost was a true beauty. I have a B. capitata now twice as big that is definitely coming inside. Any advice in the C. humilis?

Here's a pic of one of the Europeans.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32749&size=1

Great looking palms!!! Honestly, I have not had much luck with the two I have tried in the past, but I am sure I will have to try one more time, at least!!! From what I have gathered from folks on other forums that have success with them, is to indeed keep them as dry as possible... I have a couple of friends in the Atlanta area that have done well with them and they dug the holes for them quite a bit deeper than the pot size and backfilled with broken cinder block, limestone rock and the like and then topped it off with good well draining soil! They also treat them a couple times a year with lime. I have heard the contrary on the hardiness and from what I have been told the blue, ceriferas are about a half zone hardier than the regular green ones. I cannot attest to which is the truth since I can't seem to have any luck with them... Your method sounds like you are on the right track, but you may want to add some supplemental heat in the form of mini Christmas lights for those really cold nights... I wish you the best and would love to hear how you do with them as I may give it one more try as they are a beautiful palm indeed!!! Best of luck....

Jack Daw
06-28-2010, 11:32 AM
Try to keep them dry as much as is possiblle. Regular green variety is hardyer than blue/cerifera.
Mature plant here

:woohoonaner:
Au contraire, my friend. In humid (humid continental USDA 8a+ climate and humid subtropical), blue and vulcano varieties thrive much better, even in the winter, whereas the green version just keeps dying and people in central/Gulf Europe are much more unsuccesful with the green/typical version. Dunno. But it's just borderline hardy for you, Harvey, you should really make sure it stays dry with your rains and stuff. ;) And extremely dry in winter. It hates cold water. From my own experience. :(