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Dean W.
05-25-2010, 11:00 AM
I need a little help identifying this mat. I was thinking Orinico, but I'm not sure.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31958&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31958)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31974&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31974)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31975&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31975)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31976&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31976)

blownz281
05-27-2010, 09:19 AM
Bump anyone? Gabe?

Jananas Bananas
05-27-2010, 05:17 PM
Here is some info that Gabe told me on identifying Orinoco:

[Gabe15] 11:47 pm: there is no red on the plant (all green), it is very waxy on the petioles and pseudostem, the petiole canals are closed (like a tube) and the base of the leaves are very round and recurve back towards the distal end that might not make much sense but if you look up the terms it will make sense - basal means "lower" kinda, and "distal" is like upper...in terms of growth...so as a banana bunch grows, the fruit are basal, and the male flowers distal so the distal end of a leaf is the tip

~JaNan

blownz281
05-27-2010, 05:20 PM
Thanks sure does look like them. Mine is not coming back looks like,but it did have a tiny line of red on the tips of the leaves.

Dean W.
05-28-2010, 05:52 AM
Well mine don't really have red to them. It's more pinkish if anything. The p-stems seem white and waxy.

Bananaman88
05-28-2010, 08:07 AM
Have you considered 'Ice Cream'/'Blue Java'?

blownz281
05-28-2010, 12:08 PM
Some kinda look like it with round leaves others don't. My ice cream has really round leaves. Might be a blue as i have never seen one in person.

Dean W.
05-28-2010, 12:45 PM
Have you considered 'Ice Cream'/'Blue Java'?

I never considered Ice Cream. I got them off a local Craig's List. I suppose they do look like my Ice Cream's. I appreciate it.

DaveE
05-28-2010, 03:16 PM
If I were a betting man, I would put my money on Orinoco.

I think they may be to small to tell by the curve of the leaves. I checked a few of my small Orinoco pups and not all of the leaves are rounded at the base like those of the older plants. There is also some pink flushing in the mid-rib on some leaves just like in your photo.

Orinoco is very common around here (San Antonio / Austin) so chances are..

I compared a few Orinoco to Ice Creams of similar size and all I can say is I would hate to mix them up and then try to figure out which was which.

Dave

Abnshrek
05-28-2010, 08:55 PM
If I were a betting man, I would put my money on Orinoco. Dave

I second that motion & am a wagerin' feller. :^)

sunfish
05-28-2010, 09:25 PM
My ice cream pups have pink coloring on the petioles the orinoco is solid green.

Dean W.
05-29-2010, 03:47 AM
My ice cream pups have pink coloring on the petioles the orinoco is solid green.

I'm going to look at them closer now.

DaveE
05-29-2010, 08:01 PM
My ice cream pups have pink coloring on the petioles the Orinoco is solid green.

Tony,

Does your Orinoco pups or mature plants have a pink wash on the midrib.

My Ice Cream pups have a good amount of pink on the petioles and midrib. The Orinoco petioles are almost all green, but do have a sliver of light pink on the edge and the same pink wash on the midrib. The Dwarf Orinoco fall in between the two and have the same blushing on the midrib. I am comparing pups / tc plants that are about 2'-3' close to what Dean posted.

Dave

sunfish
05-29-2010, 08:26 PM
Tony,

Does your Orinoco pups or mature plants have a pink wash on the midrib.

My Ice Cream pups have a good amount of pink on the petioles and midrib. The Orinoco petioles are almost all green, but do have a sliver of light pink on the edge and the same pink wash on the midrib. The Dwarf Orinoco fall in between the two and have the same blushing on the midrib. I am comparing pups / tc plants that are about 2'-3' close to what Dean posted.

Dave

Exactly

blownz281
05-30-2010, 08:58 AM
So ice cream is the winner?

Gabe15
05-30-2010, 04:11 PM
If it's between those two I'd say Ice Cream, but don't be too sure on anything until they flower.

Jananas Bananas
05-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Is this what you are describing?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32279&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32279)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32278&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32278)

~JaNan

sunfish
05-30-2010, 07:21 PM
Ice Cream

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32282&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32282&ppuser=2868)

orinoco

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32280&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32280&ppuser=2868)

Goldfinger

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32281&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32281&ppuser=2868)

Misi Luki
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32283&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32283&ppuser=2868)

The orinoco is pretty easy to tell from the others

Dean W.
05-30-2010, 07:36 PM
Must be an Orinico then. I don't see that much pink in mine.

sunfish
05-30-2010, 07:38 PM
Is this what you are describing?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32279&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32279)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32278&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32278)

~JaNan

JaNan is this Ice Cream

Jananas Bananas
05-30-2010, 07:47 PM
No, this is my California Gold from Jeff. My Ice Cream has a much paler peachy pink color and seems to be waxier. ~J

Jananas Bananas
05-31-2010, 05:43 PM
Here are my Ice Cream, regular and Dwarf Orinoco:

Ice Cream

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32325&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32318)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32327&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32327&ppuser=5614)

regular Orinoco
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32324&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32324)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32321&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32325)

Dwarf Orinoco
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32329&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32329)



~JaNan

Dean W.
05-31-2010, 06:55 PM
Here's mine...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32354&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32354)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32355&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32355)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32356&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32356)
Board says?

Jananas Bananas
05-31-2010, 07:03 PM
Did the guy happen to say how tall they are supposed to get? ~J

Dean W.
05-31-2010, 07:49 PM
I don't remember him saying.

DaveE
05-31-2010, 09:21 PM
Still vote Orinoco.

Dean W.
06-01-2010, 06:18 AM
Still vote Orinoco.

I think I'll call them Orinoco too.

Abnshrek
06-01-2010, 07:53 AM
I think I'll call them Orinoco too.

Second that Motion :^)