What's blooming in your garden? (bananas) [Archive] - Page 4

robguz24

10-10-2013, 04:16 PM

This is the 2nd generation fruit on my 1000 fingers. There is already more than twice as much fruit as the first generation. Gave this one much more sulfate of potash after the first measly bunch.

That's a gold dust day gecko on the 2nd picture. There must be literally thousands of them in my yard. They love banana flowers.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/file_zpsebe8a757.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/file_zpsebe8a757.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/file_zpse12e3de1.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/file_zpse12e3de1.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/file_zpsdde72ad3.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/file_zpsdde72ad3.jpg.html)

Kostas

10-27-2013, 04:37 PM

My Musa 'Orinoco'(locally collected variety but seems to actually be a 'Namwah'. What do you think?) flowered somewhen in August. Here is the bunch now! :)
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/Kostas_G/Pyrgos%20Garden/null_zps7a85933c.jpg

GreenFin

10-27-2013, 08:14 PM

Here's a DC blooming at just 3.5' of pstem. It doesn't have many leaves because they kept getting fried from too much light/heat and not enough water (I only recently added the watering reservoir seen in the pic).
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venturabananas

10-27-2013, 09:28 PM

My Musa 'Orinoco'(locally collected variety but seems to actually be a 'Namwah'. What do you think?) flowered somewhen in August. Here is the bunch now! :)

Hard to tell from this photo and the others you posted. A closer photo of the bunch would help. Doesn't look like Namwah to me, from what I can see. Looks like the bunch is not hanging vertically, which the bunches on all "Namwah" (Pisang Awak) varieties I've come across do. Also doesn't look like Orinoco to me.

Kostas

10-28-2013, 01:37 AM

Thank you very much Mark! :) This bunch grew laying on top of the building's roof and its rachis is still growing and laying on the roof,so that probably distorts its handing angle/position. I didn't free it as the metal sheeting of the roof of this storage building is thin at the edge and would have most probably damaged the bunch and peduncle big time! The bunch sits about3,5-4m up and the area is dark so a better photo is difficult but I will try!

10-30-2013, 01:30 PM

Raja Puri
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55068&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55068&ppuser=7682)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55069&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55069&ppuser=7682)

JCA433

11-06-2013, 01:44 PM

Here is a photo of Namwa banana bunch six weeks old.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55114&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55114&ppuser=7368)

Hopefully it will mature but only if there is no freeze!

jimcareoff

11-08-2013, 03:08 PM

New flower!

bananimal

11-08-2013, 03:56 PM

Gold finger mat second bloom almost done dropping bracts.

And then there were two --- bunches!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55130&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55130&ppuser=820)

Dangermouse01

11-14-2013, 01:31 PM

FHIA-17
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n200/dangermouse2006/banana%20stuff/FHIA-17/FHIA-17_11-14-2013_zps6dac966d.jpg

DM

servatusprime

11-21-2013, 09:12 PM

Well it was sold to me as pisang raja. (GB) Someone more experienced, please chime in. I need to take another photo, number of hands stopped at 5. Kinda disappointing.....

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55246&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55246&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55247&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55247&ppuser=9375)

The variety, whatever it is, has not been near as robust as some of the others that I have. As the mother stem matured, the whole plant seemed to really slow down. Unless the flavor blows my mind, I could see a case for replacing it just for productivity sake. Thanks.

bananimal

11-21-2013, 11:57 PM

First time plantings sometimes produce low yield. And choking too as it appears in the pic. My Datil had it bad and had to cut away leaves and split the top of the pstem to expose the short peduncle with the top hand. Fingers were small too.

The next pstem was perfectly normal and had a big yield and much larger fingers. Will post a pic of the new Datil flower tomorrow.

Pisang Raja fruit is fantastic. Nick brought me some and I made another trip to his place to get a PR pup.

venturabananas

11-22-2013, 01:31 AM

Well it was sold to me as pisang raja. (GB) Someone more experienced, please chime in.

Could be. Don't cut off the male bud. If the male flowers and bracts do not fall off the rachis, then it probably really is Pisang Raja.

bananimal

11-23-2013, 03:54 PM

Not So Datil la Lima boom at 6 ft. It's still a good fruit with a big bunch even if it's unknown.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55266&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55266&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55265&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55265&ppuser=820)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55267&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55267&ppuser=820)

Nicolas Naranja

11-23-2013, 08:07 PM

For what its worth, the pisang raja looks similar to mine. The yield isn't fantastic. I've harvested a few bunches around the glades and usually you don't get more than 30 lbs of fruit. It's certainly no FHIA-17 in terms of yield.

venturabananas

11-23-2013, 08:55 PM

Not So Datil la Lima boom at 6 ft. It's still a good fruit with a big bunch even if it's unknown.

Dan, it's not unknown. It's Rajapuri.

bananimal

11-24-2013, 03:39 PM

Mark --- I grew the RP for 3 years and it always flowered way taller. This thing from ars grin always fruits a foot and a half shorter.

Here's a pic from Nov 2011 of my RP bunch. Do they really look the same to you?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55273&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55273&ppuser=820)

Nicolas Naranja

11-24-2013, 06:28 PM

Mark --- I grew the RP for 3 years and it always flowered way taller. This thing from ars grin always fruits a foot and a half shorter.

Here's a pic from Nov 2011 of my RP bunch. Do they really look the same to you?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55273&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55273&ppuser=820)

Maybe it's a dwarf Pisang Raja

11-24-2013, 06:37 PM

Not So Datil la Lima boom at 6 ft. It's still a good fruit with a big bunch even if it's unknown.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55267&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55267&ppuser=820)

This is my RP and they fruit at 6' the second image shows RP with a 5' p-stem. When I purchased my plant it was removed from a mat that had a 7' p-stem with fruit.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55069&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55069&ppuser=7682)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=54732&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=54732&ppuser=7682)

venturabananas

11-24-2013, 09:49 PM

Mark --- I grew the RP for 3 years and it always flowered way taller. This thing from ars grin always fruits a foot and a half shorter.

Here's a pic from Nov 2011 of my RP bunch. Do they really look the same to you?

They really do look the same to me. The very big bloom (relative to the plant size) and the very colorful female flowers are traits of Rajapuri. The height it's fruiting for you is also very typical of that cultivar. Are you growing this in exactly the same spot you grew your known RP? If not, I'd be inclined to attribute the difference in height to a microclimate in your yard, or something like that. If you grow them side by side and they are different, then they are different! But it's not uncommon to have sports of the same cultivar that differ a bit in height. Aside from height, are there any noticeable differences that can't be attributed to microclimate or some small difference between what the mats get (e.g., water)?

bananimal

11-24-2013, 11:05 PM

This mat is 20 ft from the original RP location. I can't compare them except by photo comparison. The orig RP mat was removed and replaced by Chini Champa. I feel better now about the ID. The next time I email Brian Irish at USDA ars grin in PR I'll say thanks for the RP.

bananimal

11-25-2013, 10:23 PM

Maybe it's a dwarf Pisang Raja

Nick --- this thing is planted 10 ft away from the Pisang Raja I got from you. When it fruits next year I'll compare pics. And the fruit.

I'm already planning to replace it with a Williams from Keith.

Nicolas Naranja

11-26-2013, 09:39 AM

FHIA-17 ready to be bagged. It was a 12 hand bunch, but I cut the last two hands off. It's a long wait until the end of March.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20131126_075644_zps29b1c025.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20131126_075644_zps29b1c025.jpg.html)

Dangermouse01

11-27-2013, 02:09 PM

FHIA-17 ready to be bagged. It was a 12 hand bunch, but I cut the last two hands off. It's a long wait until the end of March.

My FHIA-17 bunch ended up with 12 hands also.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n200/dangermouse2006/banana%20stuff/FHIA-17/FHIA17_11-27-13_zpsd114f845.jpg

DM

Nicolas Naranja

11-27-2013, 04:09 PM

My FHIA-17 bunch ended up with 12 hands also.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n200/dangermouse2006/banana%20stuff/FHIA-17/FHIA17_11-27-13_zpsd114f845.jpg

DM

It's such a good variety for yields. It's not unusual to be over 50 lbs.

robguz24

12-01-2013, 08:41 PM

My 1000 Fingers has two bunches. Flower emerged 8 and 6 weeks ago. The 8 week one (first 2 pics) has already stopped making fruit, but the 6 week one (3rd pic) is still going.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3433_zps3dc225c2.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3433_zps3dc225c2.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3437_zps0b593c0e.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3437_zps0b593c0e.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3435_zps71417b80.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3435_zps71417b80.jpg.html)

For comparison, the measly bunch I got from my first harvest off this mat. I began giving it far more sulfate of potash and it seemed to have helped.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/file_zps2b6d0680.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/file_zps2b6d0680.jpg.html)

JCA433

12-04-2013, 01:53 PM

The first pup from my first Namwa banana mat has inflorescence emerging.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55341&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55341&ppuser=7368)

robguz24

12-11-2013, 11:29 PM

3rd generation Double Mahoi, only single however, but a big bunch.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3444_zps49ce96df.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3444_zps49ce96df.jpg.html)

My first Dwarf Namwah. About 2 years to flower from a small pup closely planted and more shaded than most of the yard, or would have been faster.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3443_zpsebacb7f7.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3443_zpsebacb7f7.jpg.html)

Olafhenny

12-17-2013, 12:04 AM

My wife has just made reservations at the classiest restaurant we have ever eaten in,
but because it is in Vietnam, it is very affordable, price wise comparable to a lower
mid-range place here in North America.

They sent us an a la carte menu with the confirmation. I got a giggle our of the first
appetizer listed:

“Chicken salad with banana blossom, steamed rice cake with dried shrimp and
roasted pork.” (that one is about $5.-)

The main courses range from $7.- to $ 21.-, the last price buys you:

Herb crusted rack of lamb
Australian rack of lamb served with mashed potato, ratatouille and red wine sauce

To get an idea of how snazzi the place is look here:
Our finest dining in Vietnam - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lungwitz/sets/72157632260074417/)

This will be our third visit there. I am already licking my chops :) :) :)

Well, it is not "blooming in my garden", but it will be on my plate shortly :ha:

bananimal

12-17-2013, 11:49 AM

My idea of top quality Vietnamese food is Bun Tom, Tit Nuong Cha Gio or Banh Xeo with Ca Phe Sua Da.

Lang Van restaurant, Charlotte, NC.

Air fare is cheaper and the food is wonderful.

Olafhenny

12-17-2013, 02:37 PM

Even for me, coming from Canada, the air fare would be cheaper to Charlotte,
but if I want to stick around for a while, the savings in Vietnam catch up rapidly.

:)

bananimal

12-17-2013, 10:41 PM

I spent 9 months in south VietNam in 1970 and never ate VN food. Just army food. Had to wait till 1992 to find out how good it was on moving to NC. At least I got to use the Vietnamese I still remembered to place an order. lol

Olafhenny

12-17-2013, 11:33 PM

Good for you!

English is my second language. I spoke another one (beside my native) well enough to
discuss any subject, but that was ½ century ago and I have not been back since. I also
can get simple ideas across in three or 4 others, but I have never even tried any of the
South East Asian languages, because the are tonal, rather than literal and I would be too
afraid to put my foot, where it does not belong. :ha:

Come think of it, we do have a Vietnamese restaurant less than 20 km (12 miles) from our
house, which was recommended to us by a Vietnamese couple, but it was disappointing.
They slapped the food on the plate, like everybody else does here, outside of expensive
eateries. Nothing of that artistic presentation, which you get in Vietnam even with 3
and 4 dollar dishes.

robguz24

12-23-2013, 08:48 PM

Gros Michel
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3455_zps69ca4cef.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3455_zps69ca4cef.jpg.html)

2nd bunch currently blooming on my Tall Namwah mat
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3453_zps89a546b4.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3453_zps89a546b4.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3451_zpsd88bc16e.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3451_zpsd88bc16e.jpg.html)

My First Dwarf Namwah
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3460_zpsd054e686.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3460_zpsd054e686.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3463_zps724e2831.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3463_zps724e2831.jpg.html)

1000 Fingers. 3rd currently blooming on same mat. Amazing how small the inflorescence starts out.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3459_zps3b8ae0ab.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3459_zps3b8ae0ab.jpg.html)

Ice Cream falling over as usual. 1 month since bud emerged. They are basically bluish as soon as they form, and look nothing like the Dwarf Namwah fruit which is about 2 weeks behind it.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3469_zps6bb080f9.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3469_zps6bb080f9.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3467_zps9e882ade.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3467_zps9e882ade.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3465_zps7eff6f7e.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3465_zps7eff6f7e.jpg.html)

bananimal

12-23-2013, 08:58 PM

Rob --- how come so many of your fruiting pstems are leaning to such a degree? Soil so dense that pups can't push laterally before emerging?

Everything looks real good otherwise.

crazy banana

12-23-2013, 11:37 PM

Rob --- how come so many of your fruiting pstems are leaning to such a degree? Soil so dense that pups can't push laterally before emerging?

Everything looks real good otherwise.

It is my understanding ( and personal experience) that the "real deal" Blue Java is a "leaner".

robguz24

12-24-2013, 12:01 AM

Rob --- how come so many of your fruiting pstems are leaning to such a degree? Soil so dense that pups can't push laterally before emerging?

Everything looks real good otherwise.

All the Ice Creams lean, but this particular one blew over almost totally in a storm and is now propped up in 3 directions. I lose more than half my Ice Cream bunches due to this leaning. Sucrier is another big leaner, but not quite as bad. Namwah, Dwarf Namwah, and 1000 fingers lean some, but I've not had them topple over. My last 65lb Namwah bunch never even had to be propped up.

It's bits of soil amongst chunks of lava rock with mulch on top! But pups just push the rock out of the way. It's kind of amazing. But what also tends to happen is mats rise, because they can't push the rock down. With Ice Creams, I've even totally replanted them deeper, and they still always need to be propped.

Here is what my lot was like when I started, and what it is like below anything I plant. The 2nd picture is the hole left once I removed another Ice Cream that fell over.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3473_zps8d7321f1.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3473_zps8d7321f1.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3475_zps16754601.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3475_zps16754601.jpg.html)

12-29-2013, 06:38 PM

This is what I call Manzano I believe it's a sport or mutation because of the height, this plant 8'9" p-stem. The bunch consist of only 6 hands, 5 have 14 to 15 fingers and one with 10 a total of 82 fingers.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2858/11632683994_d12a0da0ce_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/11632683994/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3800/11632323555_ee615b82a2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/11632323555/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3832/11632557563_587998f44f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/11632557563/)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/11633625554_179dc4dd20_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/11633625554/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3688/11633082806_eac08f15db_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/11633082806/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/11632693804_221fbb2992_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/11632693804/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/11633101016_8236c55570_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/11633101016/)

Nicolas Naranja

01-01-2014, 05:42 PM

Gros Michel...Finally!
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140101_144815_zps32101b11.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140101_144815_zps32101b11.jpg.html)

crazy banana

01-01-2014, 07:46 PM

Nicolas, what is the source of your Gros Michel? Was it a TC from Agristart?
Congrats on the nice bloom.

servatusprime

01-03-2014, 07:29 PM

Just got back from seeing the family and I got two Christmas presents outside- Blooms on my Double Mahoi and SH 3640!!!

I can't get a decent photo on the Double Mahoi, but here is my SH 3640.....

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55526&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55526&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55527&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55527&ppuser=9375)

The odd thing to me is that it is blooming at +/- 6.5' and was a little fat pup about 6 months ago. I wish I had a picture, but it wasn't more than a foot tall. I shouldn't have a case of mistaken variety because I got this one from a very respected source.

JCA433

01-09-2014, 08:27 PM

My Goldfinger banana has flowered!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55558&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55558&ppuser=7368)

Nicolas Naranja

01-09-2014, 10:10 PM

Nicolas, what is the source of your Gros Michel? Was it a TC from Agristart?
Congrats on the nice bloom.

Yes, from 2012

JCA433

01-12-2014, 05:23 PM

Namwa banana flower emerging.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55562&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55562&ppuser=7368)

I_GROWER

01-16-2014, 11:30 PM

Stumbled upon this Guy at the Disney Magic Kingdom

http://i.imgur.com/ydOY4L4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dkula4s.jpg

Pic taken dec 25 2013

It's a small world after all

http://i.imgur.com/mjxN38L.jpg

servatusprime

01-18-2014, 11:48 AM

Better photos of Double Mahoi and SH 3640. I hope these make it through our "winter" down here. We have been dipping just below 40 degrees for an hour or two lately. So far so good.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55586&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55586&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55585&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55585&ppuser=9375)

02-02-2014, 03:52 PM

Manzano sport, 8'2" p-stem 6 hands 4 with 14 fingers one with 16 and another with 12 a total of 84 fingers.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5515/12274744034_b328b658b9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12274744034/)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/12274425073_655a98534a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12274425073/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3685/12274698105_067236a858_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12274698105/)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/12275097184_db2a334edc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12275097184/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3807/12275207996_34134fd531_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12275207996/)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5472/12274910526_74153a66b4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12274910526/)

venturabananas

02-02-2014, 05:40 PM

[CENTER]Manzano sport, 8'2" p-stem 6 hands 4 with 14 fingers one with 16 and another with 12 a total of 84 fingers.

Ed, is that a normal height for this one in your yard? If so, that's awesome. I'd like a Manzano that typically fruits at less than 10'. Mine are typically 12-13' so far.

02-02-2014, 11:38 PM

Ed, is that a normal height for this one in your yard? If so, that's awesome. I'd like a Manzano that typically fruits at less than 10'. Mine are typically 12-13' so far.

Yes, 8' p-stem is average I've had them fruit at 7'and sometimes 9', maybe it's my microclimate and it would grow taller with different soil conditions.

There's a lot of history with this plant, my father and I bought it in Miami. That day we went to different nurseries looking for small avocado trees unfortunately we didn't find any. In one of the nurseries they were selling banana plants, they had only one variety Manzano the nursery attendant said that he grows this plant and he described the fruit as a sweet banana mixed with apple, that was 36 years ago I was 14 years old.

servatusprime

02-07-2014, 08:42 PM

Goldfinger! Bought it as a tissue culture back in August. Probably no more than a foot tall back then. I'll have to check the bloom height, but I think its 6.5 feet. Why is everything so short in my yard? I have magic dwarfing apparently on everything. :)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55683&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55683&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55682&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55682&ppuser=9375)

JCA433

02-09-2014, 10:55 PM

My Goldfinger was also only about 6.5 feet before flowering.

robguz24

02-13-2014, 03:39 PM

This was supposed to be a Goldfinger (from Aloha Tropicals), but it's yet another Namwah, my 5th Namwah that was sold as something else. 2 years to flower, but was planted in a densely planted shady spot.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3648_zpsc0e58e12.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3648_zpsc0e58e12.jpg.html)

robguz24

02-14-2014, 04:22 PM

Here's my (should be the real thing) Goldfinger. Bought 8 months ago as a small TC, been in the ground about 6 months. About 4' tall and seems to have lost much of the pink.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3655_zpse2704ed8.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3655_zpse2704ed8.jpg.html)

Richard

02-14-2014, 04:32 PM

This was supposed to be a Goldfinger (from Aloha Tropicals), but it's yet another Namwah, my 5th Namwah that was sold as something else. ...

For several years I tried to get locals to buy D. Namwah. Many of them however raved about the Goldfinger they bought at a nursery. It would be funny and ironic if all those "Goldfinger" were Namwah!

eddiemunozep

02-14-2014, 04:41 PM

For me finally my Dwarf Orinoco is blooming 8 months after moving it from the shady side of my house getting less than 8 hours a day of sun to full sun shine.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55710&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55710)

bananimal

02-14-2014, 07:07 PM

robguz24

02-14-2014, 09:17 PM

For several years I tried to get locals to buy D. Namwah. Many of them however raved about the Goldfinger they bought at a nursery. It would be funny and ironic if all those "Goldfinger" were Namwah!
At this point I'm ready to answer every ID thread with, "It's probably a Namwah.":08:

venturabananas

02-15-2014, 01:33 AM

servatusprime

02-18-2014, 09:41 PM

Creamwah!!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55718&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55718&ppuser=9375)

Richard

02-20-2014, 08:55 PM

For me finally my Dwarf Orinoco is blooming 8 months after moving it from the shady side of my house getting less than 8 hours a day of sun to full sun shine.

It could be excellent timing for the flower. Even if we get El Nino rains in March, the fruit should plump up nicely with the warm weather before and after.

eddiemunozep

02-21-2014, 01:07 AM

It could be excellent timing for the flower. Even if we get El Nino rains in March, the fruit should plump up nicely with the warm weather before and after.

El Nino rains when ?

Richard

02-21-2014, 01:10 AM

El Nino rains when ?

March 2014.

eddiemunozep

02-21-2014, 01:21 AM

March 2014.

I hope your right but I read that enso neutral thru spring 2014.

Climate Prediction Center: ENSO Diagnostic Discussion (http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/index.shtml)

Richard

02-21-2014, 01:55 AM

I hope your right but I read that enso neutral thru spring 2014.

Climate Prediction Center: ENSO Diagnostic Discussion (http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/index.shtml)

El Nino Forecast Pictures at SIO Climate Research (http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~pierce/elnino/fcst_gifs/fcst_made_2014-02_for_2014-03.html)

venturabananas

02-21-2014, 03:23 AM

El Nino Forecast Pictures at SIO Climate Research (http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~pierce/elnino/fcst_gifs/fcst_made_2014-02_for_2014-03.html)

I could be wrong because I am not an expert on climate, but I'm pretty sure than sea surface temperature anomalies are not the same as El Nino, which involves more than just SST. In other words, there are warm SST anomalies when there is an El Nino, but having warm SST anomalies does not mean there is an El Nino occurring.

Whatever the case, it would be great if we got some rain!

eddiemunozep

02-21-2014, 02:56 PM

I could be wrong because I am not an expert on climate, but I'm pretty sure than sea surface temperature anomalies are not the same as El Nino, which involves more than just SST. In other words, there are warm SST anomalies when there is an El Nino, but having warm SST anomalies does not mean there is an El Nino occurring.

Whatever the case, it would be great if we got some rain!

I am praying earnestly for rain. We are on well water only! Last winter we got 9 inches and only 4 inches so far this winter. I have been importing water since July 2012.

Richard

02-21-2014, 04:08 PM

... We are on well water only! Last winter we got 9 inches and only 4 inches so far this winter. I have been importing water since July 2012.

:2141:

eddiemunozep

02-23-2014, 11:12 AM

My dwarf Orinoco is pushing out the flower faster now.

Compared to many of you all its no big thing but I am excited. Moved this pup from the back of the house to full sun back in June 2013.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55721&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55721)

02-23-2014, 01:33 PM

Another Manzano bunch and my parrot it's a Sun Conure (Aratinga solstitialis) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Parakeet) he likes to eat banana fruit and plants.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2849/12724983823_36252bc47c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12724983823/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7312/12724822705_0eee3aa536_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12724822705/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/12724978183_3682929220_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12724978183/)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/12724980753_1365a4bc0f_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/104348596@N08/12724980753/)
:woohoonaner:

robguz24

02-23-2014, 01:40 PM

The inflorescence on my A'ea'a was so tiny I didn't expect more than a few fruit. It does seem to be developing several small hands. Not sure why, as that plant has been pretty happy and well fed. The bunch is much smaller than the one I got from this mat last year.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3661_zpsf38ae2bf.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3661_zpsf38ae2bf.jpg.html)

bananimal

02-24-2014, 09:11 AM

How much potassium did it get and how often?

robguz24

02-24-2014, 12:23 PM

How much potassium did it get and how often?
The same amount as all my others, maybe a bit more. Monthly 13-3-37 and occasional 0-0-51. The biggest difference is last year there was only 1 big p-stem, and this year there are 3 about the same size.

Richard

02-24-2014, 04:18 PM

The same amount as all my others, maybe a bit more. Monthly 13-3-37 and occasional 0-0-51. The biggest difference is last year there was only 1 big p-stem, and this year there are 3 about the same size.

The feeding program seems fine. However, the corm or localized network of corms has fixed resources. If you're feeding three the diet of one, then on average 1/3 bunches would be expected.

Maybe the - University of Hawaii at Manoa - feeding program will work in Hawaii.
http://www.bananas.org/f2/new-banana-zone-14781.html

That's what some students decided to do in their garden. For the actual feeding program recommended by the tenured professors for cultivation in Hawaii, see the link to the CD posted elsewhere at bananas.org.

robguz24

02-24-2014, 06:27 PM

The feeding program seems fine. However, the corm or localized network of corms has fixed resources. If you're feeding three the diet of one, then on average 1/3 bunches would be expected.

That's what some students decided to do in their garden. For the actual feeding program recommended by the tenured professors for cultivation in Hawaii, see the link to the CD posted elsewhere at bananas.org.

It's all very unscientific what I do, but I tend to use more on bigger mats. But 3X more, I'm not sure. It may be a water issue, as it's in the rain shadow of my house and up against the edge of my planting areas. A mat of DBs which has roots under my regularly watered lawn gives me the biggest bunches of anything I grow and gets no more fertilizer than these A'ea'es even though it usually has 5+ p-stems.

I appreciate the suggestions!

PR-Giants

02-24-2014, 10:34 PM

That's what some students decided to do in their garden. For the actual feeding program recommended by the tenured professors for cultivation in Hawaii, see the link to the CD posted elsewhere at bananas.org.

Don't confuse the feeding recommendations for a large plantation with that of a garden or small farm.

No one is going to recommend a few million wheel barrels of compost, it's just not practical.

Try reading some scientific literature on small farms in India, Africa, & the Caribbean,

see the links posted elsewhere at bananas.org. :lurk:

Most studies report around a 25% loss in bunch size when using chemical fertilizer instead of compost.

Why would someone actually want to pay money to get less fruit?

Between the 3 simplest ways to feed a Banana plant,

Chemical Fertilizer is the Least Effective, but it's better than doing nothing.

# 1 - Composted Plant Material

# 2 - Composted Manure

# 3 - Chemical Fertilizer

Richard

02-24-2014, 10:47 PM

http://www.bananas.org/avatars/pr-giants.gif

Happy New Year!

Nicolas Naranja

02-25-2014, 10:16 AM

Why would someone actually want to pay money to get less fruit?

The difference is the improvement in soil quality versus nutrition. But, I imagine there are limits. I don't imagine that adding compost to my already humus rich soils is going to be any more beneficial than adding fertilizer. However, I always recommend to people that buy my suckers that they heavily amend their sandy planting holes.

robguz24

03-03-2014, 04:10 PM

FHIA-18 (supposed to be anyway). 9 months from planting keiki taken from the mother plant planted 27 months ago in a shady spot and still hasn't flowered. Was very surprised to see this flowering already. Only about 7', but virtually everything I grow tends to be shorter than stated elsewhere, particularly with first blooms. Already going to have at least 5 hands.

Anyone growing FHIA-18 please weigh in. The inflorescence is a bit unique in that it was long and skinny, with each bract rolling back tightly. Female flowers totally yellow/white. P-stem is quite colorful and skinny. The reddish seems to be correct for FHIA-18, but is true for many cultivars. Kind of reminds me of pictures I've seen of Rose.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3681_zps413a8520.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3681_zps413a8520.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3684_zpsedd38877.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3684_zpsedd38877.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3687_zps95ca4713.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3687_zps95ca4713.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3677_zpsb606e666.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3677_zpsb606e666.jpg.html)

bananimal

03-04-2014, 01:23 AM

It's prolly a Namwah.:ha:

venturabananas

03-04-2014, 02:23 AM

robguz24

03-04-2014, 02:47 AM

Rob, doesn't look right to me for FHIA-18. The leaves should be drooping, not as erect as those on your plant (at least they appear that way in your photos). The p-stem and petioles seem too colorful, too. Lots of red and not enough dark blotches at the petiole bases. Could be the climate or something else, but if I had to bet, I'd bet no.

Thanks Mark, the one thing that until now made me think it was correctly FHIA-18 was the bioversity international guide to FHIA bananas http://growables.org/information/TropicalFruit/documents/guidetoFHIAhybrids.pdf where it says on p.6 that the p-stem is "reddish, no blotches or very few blotches" for both FHIA-02 & 18. The picture of FHIA-02 looks a lot like mine, but mine are much shorter. There isn't actually a picture of 18 in the whole guide and I haven't been able to find good pics anywhere for comparison. At least I'll have a good idea of the fruit size and shape in a few months, and the male bud sooner.

venturabananas

03-04-2014, 02:52 AM

There are some photos of FHIA-18 in the "Catalog of introduced and local banana cultivars in the Philippines" which you can find on the internet. I assume they are of accurately identified plants. They look like the ones I have anyway.

03-04-2014, 12:53 PM

Thanks Mark, the one thing that until now made me think it was correctly FHIA-18 was the bioversity international guide to FHIA bananas http://growables.org/information/TropicalFruit/documents/guidetoFHIAhybrids.pdf where it says on p.6 that the p-stem is "reddish, no blotches or very few blotches" for both FHIA-02 & 18. The picture of FHIA-02 looks a lot like mine, but mine are much shorter. There isn't actually a picture of 18 in the whole guide and I haven't been able to find good pics anywhere for comparison. At least I'll have a good idea of the fruit size and shape in a few months, and the male bud sooner.

There are some photos of FHIA-18 in the "Catalog of introduced and local banana cultivars in the Philippines" which you can find on the internet. I assume they are of accurately identified plants. They look like the ones I have anyway.

Thanks Mark and Rob
I added it to - Links To Help Identify Your Banana (http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?p=238562#post238562) :waving:

robguz24

03-04-2014, 01:52 PM

The narrow, pointy remaining bud really looks more like on cavendish types than pome types. I don't think it will have the herringbone appearance once it is putting out male flowers. There is also this, which I'm not sure I trust given what they show for Mysore fruit.
http://miami-dade.ifas.ufl.edu/pdfs/tropical_fruit/Banana%20cultivars%20for%20Florida.pdf

Julian

03-08-2014, 08:53 PM

Not sure how much of a difference FHIA1 and 18 are(not much), but my supposed FHIA1 has droopy leaves.:08:

venturabananas

03-08-2014, 10:44 PM

Yes, FHIA-1 and FHIA-18 are siblings, so not too different. Both are tetraploid (AAAB), and in general, the more chromosome sets the droopier the leaves.

venturabananas

03-11-2014, 01:05 AM

Here's today's bud on one of my FHIA-18. There's nothing for scale, but it is a long, slender bud, about 2' long.
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/markasteele/FHIA-18bud_2014_03_10_zps39df31ea.jpg (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/markasteele/media/FHIA-18bud_2014_03_10_zps39df31ea.jpg.html)

And here's a Manzano bud. Got this plant from Sunfish 3 years ago. It took its sweet time to bloom.
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/markasteele/ManzanofromTony_bud_2014_03_10_zpscb998d06.jpg (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/markasteele/media/ManzanofromTony_bud_2014_03_10_zpscb998d06.jpg.html)

robguz24

03-11-2014, 02:57 AM

Mark, please post again after the immature bananas become visible.

rmuhleck

03-13-2014, 01:31 PM

Blue Java Ice Cream from Encanto Farms.:birthdaynana:http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55759&size=1

eddiemunozep

03-13-2014, 05:47 PM

Blue Java Ice Cream from Encanto Farms.:birthdaynana:http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55759&size=1

Cathedral city?

I got ice cream from Florida hills nursery, will wait and see.

rmuhleck

03-13-2014, 07:03 PM

We're the city right next to Palm Springs,Ca. This mat has 4 pups on it ranging from 3-5 ft tall. I would like to separate 2 pups off the mother plant but now that it's fruiting should I wait?

Richard

03-13-2014, 08:07 PM

We're the city right next to Palm Springs,Ca. This mat has 4 pups on it ranging from 3-5 ft tall. I would like to separate 2 pups off the mother plant but now that it's fruiting should I wait?

It's spring. I'd remove three: Guide To Growing Fruiting Bananas In Temperate Climates (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/guide-fruiting-banana.html)

crazy banana

03-13-2014, 08:45 PM

Cathedral city?

I got ice cream from Florida hills nursery, will wait and see.

Eddie: If you do not want to wait to see that it is not the "real deal", you know where to get them...... :ha:

rmuhleck

03-13-2014, 09:12 PM

Thanks for the information Richard.

Nicolas Naranja

03-14-2014, 07:47 AM

Baloy is blooming. It is very short.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140311_184945_zps38099d9e.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140311_184945_zps38099d9e.jpg.html)

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140313_171014_zpscb571895.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140313_171014_zpscb571895.jpg.html)

bananimal

03-14-2014, 10:17 AM

Nick --- is that the one you got from me? The Filipino Dr. I got it from at the club described it but I don't recollect. He said it was one of his family favorites back home. Traded him my Saba.

Richard

03-14-2014, 10:38 AM

Baloy is blooming. It is very short.

Would you estimate 3' or 4' pstem?

GreenFin

03-14-2014, 12:26 PM

This one was sold to me as a Raja Puri, but it lacks red lining on the edge of its petioles, so it isn't that cultivar. Probably another Dwarf Orinoco. It doesn't have any leaves, but it's attached to an established mat for support, so I think it'll be fine. I'm hoping that the other two big pstems on the mat will quickly push out 8 or so leaves apiece and flower in early spring. It'd be pretty cool to have multiple bunches hanging from the same mat :)<br />
Here's a pic of the emerging bunch:
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Nicolas Naranja

03-14-2014, 08:21 PM

Would you estimate 3' or 4' pstem?

Dan, it is the plant I got from you. The pseudostem is about 4' It stayed very green over the winter and retained most of its leaves. If the fruit is good I have found a winner. This would be perfect for greenhouse plantings. It is susceptible to sigatoka.

bananimal

03-14-2014, 08:40 PM

Dan, it is the plant I got from you. The pseudostem is about 4' It stayed very green over the winter and retained most of its leaves. If the fruit is good I have found a winner. This would be perfect for greenhouse plantings. It is susceptible to sigatoka.

That's great to hear. At the time I got this corm I had filled in all my spaces with naners I got from you and others. So I didn't plant it. If the fruit is good save me a pup.

I haven't given up finding what this thing is. Every Asian I meet I ask if they are Filipino and if they knew the Baloy back home. lol

I discovered 3 new very good restaurants this way. lolol

robguz24

03-18-2014, 09:58 PM

My first Tall Red. Almost 6 years to fruit. The first ones that got tall enough died from extensive weevil damage.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3882_zpsc49f3f21.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3882_zpsc49f3f21.jpg.html)

Richard

03-18-2014, 10:04 PM

My first Tall Red. ...

Congrats. The fruit is outstanding.

Hammocked Banana

03-19-2014, 06:34 PM

I haven't given up finding what this thing is. Every Asian I meet I ask if they are Filipino and if they knew the Baloy back home. lol

Hahaha a true banana nut!

03-19-2014, 08:33 PM

Baloy is blooming. It is very short.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140313_171014_zpscb571895.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140313_171014_zpscb571895.jpg.html)

That's great to hear. At the time I got this corm I had filled in all my spaces with naners I got from you and others. So I didn't plant it. If the fruit is good save me a pup.

I haven't given up finding what this thing is. Every Asian I meet I ask if they are Filipino and if they knew the Baloy back home. lol

I discovered 3 new very good restaurants this way. lolol

Baloy is a location in the Philippines (baloy beach philippines wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subic,_Zambales)) and (City of Olongapo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olongapo)) maybe that's where the plant was first discovered.

Here's a banana bread recipe using Baloy bananas with photos.:08:Food Trip Tayo!: Goin' Bananas! (http://foodtripatbp.blogspot.com/2011/10/goin-bananas.html)

http://scubatechphilippines.com/scuba_blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/baloy-barretto-map.jpg

merce3

03-19-2014, 08:59 PM

any reason why it took 6 years to fruit? seems awfully long.

robguz24

03-20-2014, 03:22 AM

Good Luck Rob, Hope you get a great bunch.

Thanks for the weevil info, I'm lucky that the Morado is resistant to weevils and so far the Verdin appears to be also. I actually planted the Verdin in a weevil infested ARH corm, it was easier than adding compost.

Thanks Keith, I wish I knew more about the reds or what specific variant this is. Everyone here just calls them Tall Red or Cuban Red if they aren't clearly Dwarf Reds. Where I live is pretty dry (for this area, only 75" of rain last year) and ones I've seen just a few miles away where they get almost double that they seem to be much more vigorous, taller, thicker stemmed even with no care. The bunch is puny. Only 4 hands and now putting out male flowers.

My Dwarf Red has been much faster growing with many pups, but still no flower after 2.5 years. Thought it started to choke 6 months ago after a very dry summer but it still putting out new growth extremely slowly while the pups are close to overtaking the original p-stem in height.

caliboy1994

03-21-2014, 03:48 AM

Raja Puri back in Los Angeles. I'll get to see it on Saturday when I fly home. Unfortunately it doesn't look very big. At least I get to harvest this time though. :08:

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/musamaniac/Musa/IMG_1477_zpsmtetzqjl.jpg

eddiemunozep

03-21-2014, 02:59 PM

caliboy1994

03-21-2014, 04:39 PM

Looks big to me, of course I am a rookie.

I surely wish it was. But that Raja Puri has about 5' of p-stem. In person it probably looks really small for a banana bloom.

venturabananas

03-24-2014, 01:25 AM

Mark, please post again after the immature bananas become visible.

Rob, here you go. This is what I have as FHIA-18. I have no reason to doubt this ID (though I'd be hard pressed to distinguish it from FHIA-01). The bud is long at emergence (first bract was 27") and narrow, but seriously fattens up. The picture of the first bract that was covering fruit (bract 3) gives you an idea of just how big the inflorescence of this variety is -- massive. The p-stem is very thick at base, too.

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/markasteele/FHIA-18bloom_zps01cae366.jpg (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/markasteele/media/FHIA-18bloom_zps01cae366.jpg.html)
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/markasteele/FHIA-18bract_zps2d9aa183.jpg (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/markasteele/media/FHIA-18bract_zps2d9aa183.jpg.html)

Nicolas Naranja

04-02-2014, 09:31 PM

Dwarf Brazillian
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/a2e90ffa-a883-435d-b4bb-98b4750dda76_zpsad9da0cb.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/a2e90ffa-a883-435d-b4bb-98b4750dda76_zpsad9da0cb.jpg.html)

Nicolas Naranja

04-06-2014, 07:36 PM

Came to me as Jamaican Lacatan, but doesn't seem tall enough. Also had no sigatoka even though all nearby Cavendish types had it.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140406_115526_zps33472a00.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140406_115526_zps33472a00.jpg.html)

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140406_115547_zps7d1bb06d.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140406_115547_zps7d1bb06d.jpg.html)

robguz24

04-07-2014, 10:32 PM

Yet another banana that turned out to be a Namwah. This seems more of the Misi Luki size, rather than the very tall size. Bought this as a "Kru" from a local seller who had never even heard of Krus being red. I think this is now the 5th type of banana sold as something else that turned out to be a Namwah for me. Good thing I like them!
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3927_zpsa3f7cd3b.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_3927_zpsa3f7cd3b.jpg.html)

venturabananas

04-09-2014, 12:35 AM

Yet another banana that turned out to be a Namwah… I think this is now the 5th type of banana sold as something else that turned out to be a Namwah for me. Good thing I like them!

Yes, for me the misidentified ones have usually been Namwah or Pome. Just had the first harvest of one that was supposed to be Manzano, but was actually a Pome ("Brazilian" type). I have 4 plants that weren't supposed to Namwah but are, plus a couple Pome varieties that were supposed to be something else (+ 2 that were). End result, I lot less variety than I was aiming for! But at least they are varieties that do well here.

04-14-2014, 06:05 PM

Grand Nain - 6' 5" p-stem

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3737/13858345503_277f23b533_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7BDir)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5521/13858357583_14e35e3e5f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7BGTH)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7427/13858356183_961a37ff1c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7BGtz)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2916/13858315255_0f32cbb84d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7BuiV)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7389/13858694994_88da0d41ed_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7Drc9)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/13858316715_0f8a4ed772_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7BuK6)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7258/13858318825_fb2c9514f1_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7Bvnt)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/13858320305_44e2e0bd9b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/n7BvNZ)

Hammocked Banana

04-14-2014, 07:31 PM

How long does it take your GN from bud to harvest? I like how cavendish or GM varieties have a little yellow/orange colour in their bracts.

04-14-2014, 07:56 PM

How long does it take your GN from bud to harvest? I like how cavendish or GM varieties have a little yellow/orange colour in their bracts.

3 to 4 months

Olafhenny

04-14-2014, 10:17 PM

04-14-2014, 10:35 PM

Hi Ed,

in HZ6 The grand main is firmly outside of my reach. However, I am intrigued by
that frog in your avatar. I believe, that I have seen a similar frog in you Flickr site,
but I do not remember it as quite as colourful. Do you have a special line on these
critters? :ha:

On another matter, I am trying to start a new thread since a few days now, but
I can not figure out how.

I had stored the URL for the procedure in my computer, but when changing from
Windows XP to Windows 7, it got lost. I cannot find it in this website either. so,
PLEASE, you have helped me out before, if you can get me on the right track, I will
appreciate it, especially since I have posted that request in other threads. and
also emailed it to the admin twice without getting any response.

Thanks,
Olaf

Red-eyed Tree Frog
(Agalychnis callidryas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agalychnis_callidryas)), photographed near Playa Jaco in Costa Rica
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Red_eyed_tree_frog_edit2.jpg/799px-Red_eyed_tree_frog_edit2.jpg
This work has been released into the public domain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:public_domain) by its author, Careyjamesbalboa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Careyjamesbalboa) at the wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/) project. This applies worldwide.

PM me Olaf :waving:

robguz24

04-30-2014, 09:15 PM

Well I wondered why my Maia 'Upehupehu's cigar leaf was coming out so slowly. Noticed something was busting out 2/3rds of the way up the p-stem. On closer inspection, it was the flower. Did a little surgery and we'll see. There was no way it was going to make it up out of the top of the p-stem. In the ground just over a year.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4023_zpsb78b05a6.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4023_zpsb78b05a6.jpg.html)

Richard

04-30-2014, 10:45 PM

thestockmann

05-05-2014, 04:39 PM

My Musa Sikkimensis has Bloomed here in Maryland. See my new postings
Banana Gallery - thestockmann Gallery (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=9377)
Does anyone know what happens to a tree which has no leaves when it blooms?
Does the tree produce any more leaves once it is blooming?
Will the bananas mature?
This tree also had no roots while it was stored indoors but should have some now after being in soil for 3 weeks.

venturabananas

05-05-2014, 05:24 PM

It will not make any more leaves on that "trunk".

robguz24

05-05-2014, 06:46 PM

My post-op 'Upehupehu seems to be working it out. Should be able to tell soon if this plant is the real thing (with more stout Iholena fruit) or is actually an Iholena Lele, which I was told it might also be. This pup was collected in the wild in a remote part of North Kohala.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4045_zps996dc5d8.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4045_zps996dc5d8.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4056_zps12ad2b55.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4056_zps12ad2b55.jpg.html)

servatusprime

05-09-2014, 03:34 PM

Gros Michel!!!! Finally!!! I went on vacation for a week and got a pleasant surprise when I got back. I thought it would flower soon, but not till after I got back.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55969&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55969&ppuser=9375)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55968&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55968&ppuser=9375)

Richard

05-09-2014, 03:58 PM

Gros Michel!!!! Finally!!!

In the famous words of Monty Hall: Grow Michel, come on down!

crazy banana

05-10-2014, 01:03 AM

:woohoonaner:My post-op 'Upehupehu seems to be working it out. Should be able to tell soon if this plant is the real thing (with more stout Iholena fruit) or is actually an Iholena Lele, which I was told it might also be. This pup was collected in the wild in a remote part of North Kohala.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4045_zps996dc5d8.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4045_zps996dc5d8.jpg.html)

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4056_zps12ad2b55.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4056_zps12ad2b55.jpg.html)

Great photos, Rob. So the verdict is still out on the musa species, but what is the gecko/lizard? I bet he is going for some sweet nectar up there.

robguz24

05-10-2014, 11:06 AM

It's a gold dust day gecko. There are usually several on every banana plant. They are a species that has taken over and actively kills off other species of gecko.

Richard

05-12-2014, 01:42 PM

It's a gold dust day gecko. There are usually several on every banana plant. They are a species that has taken over and actively kills off other species of gecko.

I hope they earn their keep and actively remove all insects!

Julian

05-14-2014, 02:19 AM

robguz24

05-14-2014, 10:40 AM

Coming out the side like Hapai?

Yeah, but this fell over some in different directions until I finally propped it up well. That's probably why it got stuck. My Hapai has never even gotten that far.

bananimal

05-30-2014, 10:04 AM

Good old SH 3640

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56130&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56130&ppuser=820)

First ever Viente Cohol. Was a sick corm when I took it from a buddys house and it flowered small. Let it go to check the taste. Several follow ups on 2 mats should give fruit this year.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56131&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56131&ppuser=820)

Nicolas Naranja

06-02-2014, 07:58 PM

Gros Michel
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/IMG_20140602_191943_zps279f7c55.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/IMG_20140602_191943_zps279f7c55.jpg.html)

FHIA-3
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140602_191550_zps53b541b6.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140602_191550_zps53b541b6.jpg.html)

RP/Datil La Lima
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140602_191201_zps7f98a98b.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140602_191201_zps7f98a98b.jpg.html)

Veinte Cohol
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140527_160814_zps09f4b490.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140527_160814_zps09f4b490.jpg.html)
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140602_191147_zpscdab0c34.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140602_191147_zpscdab0c34.jpg.html)

eddiemunozep

06-02-2014, 08:26 PM

Let us know your Opinion on the gros Michel when they ripen and the others too of course.

Richard

06-02-2014, 09:52 PM

... Some people go bananas, I went plantains

Nicolas, congratulations on the fruits! Your spring is certainly warmer than mine.
:drum:

Nicolas Naranja

06-02-2014, 10:09 PM

Let us know your Opinion on the gros Michel when they ripen and the others too of course.

I actually harvested a bunch the other day. Nothing to write home about, it taste like a banana should. The others fruited in Early January and Early February. The January bunch came off too early. Only about 15 lbs of fruit.

MDbasjoo

06-04-2014, 06:34 PM

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3899/14325212856_1fa63996df.jpg
First banana flower ever of the type Musa basjoo :woohoonaner:

merce3

06-04-2014, 07:02 PM

guava and dragonfruit
http://i.imgur.com/tm5LCSAl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8SWaRNIl.jpg

from the sea

06-04-2014, 09:09 PM

3 icecream
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/Ssullivan_02/IMG_20140604_193906_zpsc94c4716.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/Ssullivan_02/media/IMG_20140604_193906_zpsc94c4716.jpg.html)
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/Ssullivan_02/IMG_20140604_193852_zps51d7a1d4.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/Ssullivan_02/media/IMG_20140604_193852_zps51d7a1d4.jpg.html)

and this red variegated
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/Ssullivan_02/IMG_20140604_193838_zpsc82e5b26.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/Ssullivan_02/media/IMG_20140604_193838_zpsc82e5b26.jpg.html)

and breadfruit
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/Ssullivan_02/IMG_20140604_193436_zps1b4ac7c3.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/Ssullivan_02/media/IMG_20140604_193436_zps1b4ac7c3.jpg.html)

Iunepeace

06-05-2014, 08:03 AM

robguz24

06-05-2014, 01:11 PM

The Ice Cream looks like a Namwah.

from the sea

06-05-2014, 08:19 PM

planted it 18 months ago grows way fast, favorite looking tree

Nicolas Naranja

06-05-2014, 08:23 PM

7 hands is all I am getting out of the Gros Michel.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140605_174001_zps7a5d4f6c.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140605_174001_zps7a5d4f6c.jpg.html)

from the sea

06-05-2014, 08:32 PM

The Ice Cream looks like a Namwah.

had a suspicion thanks, still fruit so i'm not worried bubba

robguz24

06-06-2014, 01:52 AM

had a suspicion thanks, still fruit so i'm not worried bubba
And much better fruit!

from the sea

06-06-2014, 05:31 AM

:woohoonaner:

RAINFOREZT

06-08-2014, 05:26 AM

chundillakkannan

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff426/sijosijo/ck0.jpg (http://s1235.photobucket.com/user/sijosijo/media/ck0.jpg.html)
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff426/sijosijo/ck1.jpg (http://s1235.photobucket.com/user/sijosijo/media/ck1.jpg.html)
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff426/sijosijo/ck3.jpg (http://s1235.photobucket.com/user/sijosijo/media/ck3.jpg.html)
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff426/sijosijo/ck4.jpg (http://s1235.photobucket.com/user/sijosijo/media/ck4.jpg.html)

I_GROWER

06-10-2014, 11:00 AM

Neighbors drawf
http://i.imgur.com/QR234S9.jpg

I got 1 that's about 4ft and a sucker in the ground.. Hopefully bloom this year

I_GROWER

06-10-2014, 11:09 AM

My "what I assumed to be" African rhino
http://i.imgur.com/iMFZPCE.jpg

GreenFin

06-10-2014, 12:06 PM

So far so good, looks like a rhino to me.

I_GROWER

06-10-2014, 02:01 PM

First you assumed it was an Orinoco and now you assume it's an African Rhino Horn. What's next?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=32572&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32572&ppuser=5)
NOTE: the one on the far right is a "Horn", but the bananas.org mark covered it.

Group ---------------- Inflorescence --- Neutral flower --- Male bud --- Hands --- (no.) Fingers --- (no.) Fingers (g)

French plantain -------- Complete -------- Many ------------ Yes ------ 6-12 --------60-170 ---------- 100-300

based on the data provided all signs lead to Musa X paradisiaca L. (pro sp.)

:woohoonaner:

sorry for the early assumptions, I will :2738: more before assuming again.

I_GROWER

06-10-2014, 02:28 PM

Ok 3rd strike I'm out.. Ban my account :)

Richard

06-10-2014, 06:11 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56215&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56215)

Nicolas Naranja

06-12-2014, 09:05 AM

Chini Champa

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140611_183858_zps5ab13665.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140611_183858_zps5ab13665.jpg.html)

bob2ride

06-14-2014, 11:08 AM

Hello folks;
I planted bananas in Long Beach CA 18-20 months ago. We have the first bloom and bananas showing. I am new to banana growing and gardening in general. Newby question is what happens now? how long to wait for eating, picking etc...
put picture in my gallery

This is an ice cream banana I brought home from a friend in Florida. I haven't figured out how to add pictures to posts but I will soon.

Thanks

jmccosl

06-14-2014, 12:44 PM

Can someone tell me what kind of banana has small red bananas.

Abnshrek

06-14-2014, 01:46 PM

Can someone tell me what kind of banana has small red bananas.

Looks like velutina..

jmccosl

06-14-2014, 02:05 PM

Thanks a lot.

venturabananas

06-14-2014, 04:10 PM

Can someone tell me what kind of banana has small red bananas.

Musa Velutina - Bananas Wiki (http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_Velutina)

robguz24

06-15-2014, 02:33 PM

First Goldfinger. 12 months after planting the small TC. Was in half day sun in a densely planted area, so pretty fast considering.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4334_zpsc546cb59.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4334_zpsc546cb59.jpg.html)

First bloom from the my 2nd Mysore mat, small pup from 16 months ago in same conditions as the Goldfinger.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4341_zpsb02c9325.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4341_zpsb02c9325.jpg.html)

Rose from a pup planted in essentially full shade between some much taller plants. Has taken 2.5 years to get this nearly choked bunch.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4344_zps447e0cec.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4344_zps447e0cec.jpg.html)

Hammocked Banana

06-15-2014, 05:15 PM

Nice blooms.

crazy banana

06-17-2014, 09:08 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56230&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56230&ppuser=13376)

:woohoonaner:
My fourth bloom of my Blue Java IceCream banana mat

Nicolas Naranja

06-23-2014, 08:16 AM

Baloy is closing in on harvest. Fingers are 6-7" long and 31-34mm in diameter.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140621_102101_zpsc1b6a7bd.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140621_102101_zpsc1b6a7bd.jpg.html)

Iunepeace

06-23-2014, 08:39 AM

Nicolas Naranja

06-23-2014, 10:33 AM

Wow; great bunch! I've never heard of the Baloy variety before; how long do they take to bloom?

It is some kind of Dwarf Cavendish from the Phillipines. It was about 10 months plant to bloom. It looks like a great fit for someone in a greenhouse.

JCA433

06-26-2014, 05:48 PM

Namwa has flowered again! This is a third generation flower for this mat.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56310&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56310&ppuser=7368)

Iunepeace

06-27-2014, 10:26 AM

It is some kind of Dwarf Cavendish from the Phillipines. It was about 10 months plant to bloom. It looks like a great fit for someone in a greenhouse.

That's pretty fast! I'm thinking I could shave that down to around 8 months here with the right fert and full sun since you got 10 for zone 10 and I'm in the tropics :D

bob2ride

07-02-2014, 10:27 PM

[QUOTE=bob2ride;246915]Hello folks;
I planted bananas in Long Beach CA 18-20 months ago. We have the first bloom and bananas showing. I am new to banana growing and gardening in general. Newby question is what happens now? how long to wait for eating, picking etc...
put picture in my gallery

So now we're another month along. The bananas are growing nicely. When do I cut off the spent bloom?

Thanks

Richard

07-02-2014, 10:44 PM

Hello folks;
I planted bananas in Long Beach CA 18-20 months ago. We have the first bloom and bananas showing. I am new to banana growing and gardening in general. Newby question is what happens now? how long to wait for eating, picking etc...
put picture in my gallery

So now we're another month along. The bananas are growing nicely. When do I cut off the spent bloom?

Thanks

Guide To Growing Fruiting Bananas In Temperate Climates (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/guide-fruiting-banana.html)

MDbasjoo

07-07-2014, 02:26 PM

<img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RKEdaFHDc9U/U7rypiu3fzI/AAAAAAAADcs/wOIlPcOabFA/s1600/IMG_3198.JPG" height="480" width="640" />
One basjoo flower turns to 2 basjoo flowers :)

Funkthulhu

07-07-2014, 03:47 PM

<img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RKEdaFHDc9U/U7rypiu3fzI/AAAAAAAADcs/wOIlPcOabFA/s1600/IMG_3198.JPG" height="480" width="640" />
One basjoo flower turns to 2 basjoo flowers :)

How long did it take yours to flower? What did the flag leaf look like?

I'd really like to see one this summer...

MDbasjoo

07-07-2014, 04:22 PM

How long did it take yours to flower? What did the flag leaf look like?

I'd really like to see one this summer...

The flag leaf for the first flower looked like this:
<img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kl1HLPFO9yA/U7sMfiPap4I/AAAAAAAADc8/xuAikaqZOOc/s1600/IMG_3082.JPG" height="640" width="480" />
The preceding leaf was about 1/3 the length of the other (normal) leaves.
The p-stems are going into their third summer having survived 2 winters wrapped with burlap and christmas lights

JCA433

07-09-2014, 09:25 AM

Another Namwa stem has flowered. It is from the mat adjacent to the one that flowered two weeks ago.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56377&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56377&ppuser=7368)

kubali

07-09-2014, 09:31 AM

a smaller bunch but still some good bananas. Sorry got these growing wild in the woods out back so don't know type.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56379&size=1
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56378&size=1

flaflowerfloozie

07-10-2014, 06:34 PM

So my Ensete glaucum is blooming I noticed yesterday this huge green flower. The herb is less than 2 years old. Some of the first seeds I got from James when I joined in 2012. I never thought about it but I assumed the fruit was not edible. My husband asked if they could be eaten.
So now I turn to YOU the experts:
#1: Are they not edible because they taste bad?
#2: Are the not edible because of the seeds?
#3: Are they not edible because...Why do you think or know?

Thanks and cheers ^_^

Hammocked Banana

07-10-2014, 06:50 PM

They are not edible because of the seeds. Not sure of the taste.

flaflowerfloozie

07-10-2014, 06:55 PM

They are not edible because of the seeds. Not sure of the taste.

Thanks :08: One vote because of seeds, if that's all it is I'll work around the seeds once just to try them. I've read the root is edible though, but I'm not digging them up to try them, since I know what I feed them...yikes!

Lets see what others have to say, thanks for your input :03:

crazy banana

07-14-2014, 09:46 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56427&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56427)

Namwah :goteam:

eddiemunozep

07-14-2014, 10:55 PM

Wow!

merce3

07-14-2014, 11:05 PM

finally got my first flag at the new place... a praying hands i planted last summer. i'll post pics in the am.

Nicolas Naranja

07-15-2014, 02:29 PM

Ye Olde Williams
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140715_103434_zps9444a932.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140715_103434_zps9444a932.jpg.html)

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140715_103411_zpse682fbae.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140715_103411_zpse682fbae.jpg.html)

merce3

07-16-2014, 08:35 PM

praying hands about to pop a flower
http://i.imgur.com/fPBBd2t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CPZRGHZ.jpg

merce3

07-22-2014, 07:00 PM

update on the praying hands
http://i.imgur.com/veyn1Ps.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ko1Xi9L.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7gG1cqx.jpg

merce3

07-22-2014, 07:17 PM

for size reference:
http://i.imgur.com/hxnVj7t.jpg

Nicolas Naranja

07-23-2014, 08:20 AM

SH-3640 8 hands pruned back to 7
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140723_080950_zpsb7901c78.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140723_080950_zpsb7901c78.jpg.html)

Dwarf Namwah 12 hands pruned back to 10
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140723_080907_zps6137a556.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140723_080907_zps6137a556.jpg.html)

FHIA-17 a stunning 13 hands pruned back to 10
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140723_080835_zpscbd57b16.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140723_080835_zpscbd57b16.jpg.html)

from the sea

07-23-2014, 05:50 PM

what kind of bags are those?

I_GROWER

08-01-2014, 11:31 AM

My second of unknown of many
http://i.imgur.com/yRlflLz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mn4eFf4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wjzUe4M.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/y5T60Uj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nMpMryB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sS3S339.jpg

It's about 6/7ft tall any ideas?

I_GROWER

08-01-2014, 11:41 AM

Another flower , this is a giant in comparison to the other

She has blackish pstem
http://i.imgur.com/F838tCa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yAZVgyB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7489Szv.jpg

One of the suckers

http://i.imgur.com/7iflx1D.jpg

Any ideas? She's a keeper forsure!

I_GROWER

08-12-2014, 09:58 AM

Got a few pups from the neighbors

Is this enough pictures for a identification?

ID1?

http://i.imgur.com/ja4uBwb.jpg

well finally got a flower from one of these guys...

http://i.imgur.com/gdXAWe2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/88dIjE4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ia2UiOI.jpg

fruited at 12 or so ft :weightliftingnaner:

crazy banana

08-18-2014, 10:14 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56542&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56542&ppuser=13376)

:woohoonaner: Pisang Klotek
First hand showed on August 1st, now it has at least 8 hands. It is huge and I have not been able to keep up with counting hands :08:

crazy banana

08-23-2014, 12:34 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56636&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56636)

And another one: :woohoonaner:

Not sure yet, what this one is. Will post more details as it progresses, but I received the corm from a CRFG member who did not know the ID.
It is a dwarf and stout plant, inflorescence at 6'.
Open petiole, lined with red stripe.
Dwarf Brazilian maybe? Any input welcomed.

venturabananas

08-23-2014, 04:46 PM

DB seems like a very good guess at this point.

Jose263

08-23-2014, 06:00 PM

It was a rough winter but I finally got some blooms this season.
:woohoonaner: :woohoonaner:
D Namwah - bloomed at 6 ft.
http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag113/jose2631/DNamwa_8-23-14_zps35490f6f.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/jose2631/media/DNamwa_8-23-14_zps35490f6f.jpg.html)

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag113/jose2631/DNamwaFlower_8-23-14_zps96eea4d2.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/jose2631/media/DNamwaFlower_8-23-14_zps96eea4d2.jpg.html)

CaliGold - Bloomed at 7 ft - Cali leaning and needed prop.

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag113/jose2631/CaliGoldb_8-23-14_zps003a6809.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/jose2631/media/CaliGoldb_8-23-14_zps003a6809.jpg.html)

Caligold flower
http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag113/jose2631/CaliGoldFlower_8-23-14_zpsb16d66b4.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/jose2631/media/CaliGoldFlower_8-23-14_zpsb16d66b4.jpg.html)

Nicolas Naranja

08-25-2014, 04:21 PM

FHIA-2
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140825_092809_zps0911fb33.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140825_092809_zps0911fb33.jpg.html)

FHIA-17
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140825_092832_zpsc9c39590.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140825_092832_zpsc9c39590.jpg.html)

FHIA-17
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140825_092853_zpsbc8445c6.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140825_092853_zpsbc8445c6.jpg.html)

StevenB

08-26-2014, 10:03 AM

Jose263

08-26-2014, 10:52 AM

I am so jealous of many of the plants I have seen on here. I am in Missouri and have been trying my best just to keep mine alive. I don't have a greenhouse so I have to take them up every fall. This is the best so far this year. Try not to laugh.

Looks better than my 1st bunch a few years ago :ha:
Is than an orinoco?
Talk to Abnshrek he can fill you in on how to grow bigger bunches
Happy Growing

Nicolas Naranja

08-27-2014, 09:08 PM

Williams
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/20140827_193313_zps27cf7d19.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/20140827_193313_zps27cf7d19.jpg.html)

DaytonaBob

09-08-2014, 07:45 PM

jbyrd88888

09-08-2014, 07:57 PM

Can anyone identify these. My first bananas and didn't have a clue when I bought tem. Plants about 9 to 10 ft tall. I am in the Daytona Beach area. Do you think I will have time for them to grow properly.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56733&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56733)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56732&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56732)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56731&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56731&ppuser=16679)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56730&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56730&ppuser=16679)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56729&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56729&ppuser=16679)

Nice! I'm sure someone on here can identify... Picture of leaf or p-stem might be helpful?

venturabananas

09-08-2014, 08:35 PM

These are Namwah.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56733&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56733)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56732&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56732)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56731&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56731&ppuser=16679)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56730&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56730&ppuser=16679)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56729&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56729&ppuser=16679)

Nice! I'm sure someone on here can identify... Picture of leaf or p-stem might be helpful?

DaytonaBob

09-08-2014, 09:01 PM

Thankx, I'll try to get some more pictures tomorrow.

Brian_Banana

09-08-2014, 09:05 PM

Just love the beauty of the bloom.
:woohoonaner:

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56736&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56736)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56735&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56735)

Sorry. didn't rotate this one

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56734&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56734)

Has anyone ever seen honey bees going for the blossoms of their bananas? Just wondering as I have some hives right next to them.

Brian

crazy banana

09-08-2014, 11:55 PM

Very pretty inflorescence.
There are lots of bees on mine. I thought they were my neighbors honey bees.

Richard

09-09-2014, 09:46 PM

These are Namwah.

DaytonaBob -- I'm less of a banana expert than others here, but they look like Namwa to me too.

I_GROWER

09-13-2014, 06:27 AM

3s company
http://i.imgur.com/4FWfTgB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mNq6NNW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8DiZsak.jpg

Hammocked Banana

09-13-2014, 03:13 PM

What type is that with a yellow tip on the pedals?

bananimal

09-14-2014, 08:18 AM

The deep red leaf ribs say Morado. Mine looks same same.

Hammocked Banana

09-14-2014, 09:30 AM

Thanks, really hard to learn all the different types by appearance. This trait was new to me, now its locked in the ol' noodle.

Jessedian

09-14-2014, 01:20 PM

African Rhino Horn

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56765&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56765&ppuser=18822)

Jessedian

09-14-2014, 01:36 PM

Goldfinger :)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56766&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56766&ppuser=18822)

bananimal

09-15-2014, 09:10 PM

Just look at that multi hand bunch!!! Growing stuff in PR is just about fail safe!!!!!!!

Can't wait for the taste report. Do chips for sure!

Hammocked Banana

09-17-2014, 10:59 AM

If you're gonna lock that trait in the ol' noodle, be sure to write in pencil.

Are u saying its not a morado?

How do those ae' ae' bunches sell for u in Puerto Rico?

Hammocked Banana

09-17-2014, 06:05 PM

Hahaha dude.......alright can u learn me up? Let me in on the secret. Is it a plantain?

Richard

09-17-2014, 09:23 PM

Hahaha dude.......alright can u learn me up? Let me in on the secret. Is it a plantain?

There's no secret, just a lot of opinions and even more possibilities. After 3 or 4 cycles of pups, pstems, and fruits we might get to some consensus.
:lurk:

Hammocked Banana

09-18-2014, 09:10 PM

Ah manzano.....that midrib is really red! I was kinda thinking that last bud was an ARH.

Jose263

09-19-2014, 07:51 AM

Very pretty inflorescence.
There are lots of bees on mine. I thought they were my neighbors honey bees.

I got bees too - good to see them.
My Goldfinger just sent up a flag - this is from a mat frozen to the ground last winter - not complaining - just wish summers were longer. :goteam:
TJ

Hammocked Banana

09-19-2014, 04:25 PM

Is a really red midrib a useful trait for identification?

Is it based on genotype, subgroup, and/or cultivar?

Is it influenced by the environment?

Which plants have it and which don't?

Are the plants being used as your guide accurately identified?

A red midrib is not a trait of the Manzanos that I grow.

If you have an interest in red midribs, start a thread asking members to submit photos & data.

Keith I think you got distracted from my actual question. I was never identifying anything based on a red midrib, that was Dan that said his morados looked like the banana in question based on the bud + the red midrib. I was asking which variety(s) have a yellow tip on the petals of the emerging female flower. I kept harassing because I never got an answer to what type of nanner that was. The last pic of Eds manzano was the most vibrant red on a banana I have seen, so I figured it at least warranted a comment.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56757 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56757)

crazy banana

09-19-2014, 11:19 PM

I got bees too - good to see them.
My Goldfinger just sent up a flag - this is from a mat frozen to the ground last winter - not complaining - just wish summers were longer. :goteam:
TJ

Congratulations.
I wish we would have summer weather year round. ....

Hammocked Banana

09-20-2014, 04:52 PM

Ah this is not a trait I was aware of. I thought they were generally a solid colour other than cavendish, which had some yellow throughout the pedals. Thanks for your patience while I learn.

Nicolas Naranja

09-25-2014, 10:56 AM

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/NicolasNaranja/IMG_20140924_192803_zpsrpaeouau.jpg (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/NicolasNaranja/media/IMG_20140924_192803_zpsrpaeouau.jpg.html)

Baloy, a very short variety of Cavendish

I_GROWER

09-25-2014, 03:16 PM

http://i.imgur.com/im1OgHC.jpg

Brian_Banana

09-26-2014, 07:34 PM

Possible inflorescence? Stem looks enlarged at bottom.

What do you guys think?

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56831&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56831)

Richard

09-26-2014, 10:22 PM

Possible inflorescence? Stem looks enlarged at bottom.

What do you guys think?

Remove the large pup, let the small pup continue. If the mother plant doesn't flower in 2 months, also remove the small pup.

I_GROWER

09-27-2014, 06:10 AM

http://i.imgur.com/6h0vyl3.jpg

Lau

09-28-2014, 06:38 PM

DC and Unknown

Lau

09-28-2014, 06:50 PM

Namva, Ice-cream, and Bucket Namva

venturabananas

09-28-2014, 09:12 PM

The female and male flowers of the DC are much more colorful (red and dark hues) than is normal for that cultivar.

I have no idea what the unknown is. How tall is it and are the petiole canals open, closed, or intermediate? The really compact structure of the bunch is distinctive.

DC and Unknown

Lau

09-28-2014, 10:58 PM

The plants are about 10' Tall and close to 3' around at the base of the plant. The last picture is older but it shows the banana plants.

Lau

09-28-2014, 11:00 PM

Do you think the DC might be something else?

venturabananas

09-29-2014, 02:04 AM

Not sure about this one. Have you had the fruit before? If so, what do they taste like? Any tartness? Thick peel or thin peel?

The plants are about 10' Tall and close to 3' around at the base of the plant. The last picture is older but it shows the banana plants.

venturabananas

09-29-2014, 02:05 AM

Do you think the DC might be something else?

The flower colors are more typical of Rajapuri (if this plant is as short as a DC).

Lau

09-29-2014, 07:19 AM

The fruit on both plants is very good. I still think the Namva fruit is better. This time when I harvest I will pay attention and take some pictures of the fruit and peel.

Thanks Susan

I_GROWER

09-29-2014, 05:29 PM

They keep coming.
http://i.imgur.com/mhO4bqM.jpg

robguz24

09-30-2014, 05:06 PM

First Mona Lisa. About 7.5' with 8 hands so far. 9 months and 1 week from small TC to flowering. That's pretty fast compared to most I grow.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/robguz24/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4720_zpsf7c3016b.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/robguz24/media/Robs%20bananas/IMG_4720_zpsf7c3016b.jpg.html)

crazy banana

09-30-2014, 05:28 PM

:woohoonaner: Second inflorescence on my Namwah mat in 2014
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56839&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56839&ppuser=13376)

Third inflorescence on my Blue Java mat
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56840&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56840&ppuser=13376)

Fourth inflorescence on my Blue Java mat: this plant is 8' away from my Pisang Klotek mat, but it is leaning right into the Pisang Klotek bunch.
Banana heaven this year!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56846&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56846&ppuser=13376)

Richard

09-30-2014, 09:35 PM

First Mona Lisa. About 7.5' with 8 hands so far. 9 months and 1 week from small TC to flowering. That's pretty fast compared to most I grow.

I've never grown the real deal, but that sounds about right by other accounts. The debate in the literature is whether it is pleasantly sweet or putrid sweet. I hope you can shed some light on this question! :)

venturabananas

10-08-2014, 01:48 AM

First time for Yangambi KM5 in my yard. Can't say I'm optimistic about how this will turn out, given how plants with all A genes have done in my yard, but I can hope!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56880&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56880)

venturabananas

10-08-2014, 01:51 AM

Here's how to turn a banana that normally flowers at about 15' into a "dwarf". Chop it off at 1.5' not long before it is going to flower!

I wasn't aiming for that. I am slowly removing this mat because the plants are too darn tall and lean over my neighbor's driveway. But it is amusing to see how chopping this one worked out.

PS - the bunches on p-stems that aren't chopped are WAY bigger!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56879&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56879)

venturabananas

10-08-2014, 01:53 AM

And good old Rajapuri. Can't beat the color of the female flowers or the size of the bud.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56881&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56881)

I_GROWER

10-08-2014, 02:38 PM

this was last year Nov 16, my 1Gallon Lowes "African Rhino Horn" for $7.99

African rhino from lowes, fingers crossed.

http://i.imgur.com/vMaX7D0.jpg

this is how she looked last night..

http://i.imgur.com/QpRmASt.jpg

multiple pups (over 10) cant wait to transplant them!
http://i.imgur.com/fnMWuxu.jpg

i recall reading here that this Variety can flower in as little as 9 - 12 month?

now we wait

I_GROWER

10-08-2014, 02:52 PM

another Dwarf

http://i.imgur.com/tAqPeIw.jpg

so far 2014 has turned out as following:
1 harvested (7/2014)
10 currently flowering/fruiting stage
4 more possibles flowers before the year ends.

Richard

10-09-2014, 12:17 AM

... i recall reading here that this Variety can flower in as little as 9 - 12 month? ...

Depends on climate zone.

from the sea

10-09-2014, 09:59 AM

what variety is that? 357 fingers is huge

JCA433

10-09-2014, 11:25 AM

Goldfinger flower

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56885&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56885&ppuser=7368)

servatusprime

10-10-2014, 09:50 AM

<a href="http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/servatusprime/media/454EB4EB-C98C-48A7-9241-D7E7ADE3707C_zpsailzimuv.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a600/servatusprime/454EB4EB-C98C-48A7-9241-D7E7ADE3707C_zpsailzimuv.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 454EB4EB-C98C-48A7-9241-D7E7ADE3707C_zpsailzimuv.jpg"/></a>

Goldfinger!! I'm thinking of pruning it back. 11 hands is too many for us to eat by our selves.