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sunfish
04-25-2010, 09:27 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31074&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31074&ppuser=2868)

GOLDFINGER

harveyc
04-25-2010, 11:50 AM
Congrats, Tony! I'll try to come down for a visit in 5 months or so. :ha:

Patty in Wisc
04-25-2010, 11:57 AM
Come & visit me too Harv...my IC popped a flag Tuesday. :):)
And yes, the leaf before it was smaller than normal.
Congrats Tony...post that flag leaf too!

LilRaverBoi
04-25-2010, 12:08 PM
Very nice-looking goldfinger, Tony! Congrats on the pre-pre inflorescence. Let us know how the bunch turns out!
my IC popped a flag Tuesday. :):)
REALLY!? Awesome!!! Congrats, Patty!

harveyc
04-25-2010, 12:37 PM
Come & visit me too Harv...my IC popped a flag Tuesday. :):)
And yes, the leaf before it was smaller than normal.
Congrats Tony...post that flag leaf too!

About time, Patty! Five growing seasons might be a new record. lol While I do trust you, I think you should post a photo to prove it! :ha:

Caloosamusa
04-25-2010, 01:31 PM
Congratulations Tony! And Patty! :2239:

sunfish
04-25-2010, 01:37 PM
Thanks . For me the goldfinger has been my fastest grower. From pup to flower in about one year.


Harvey you don't have to wait 5 months. This bunch has been on since the first of the year.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31084&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31084&ppuser=2868)

harveyc
04-25-2010, 01:38 PM
I plan to be down that way sometime next month...get them moving! ;)

Caloosamusa
04-25-2010, 01:53 PM
In our climates the ripening sometimes takes longer when they start or finish in the cool season. When do you estimate Tony? Late May or early to mid June? :2239:

sunfish
04-25-2010, 02:08 PM
In our climates the ripening sometimes takes longer when they start or finish in the cool season. When do you estimate Tony? Late May or early to mid June? :2239:

That sounds about right The first Goldfinger took about six months. I have some bunches of Namwah that have been on for over six months that flowered October 09.

It also stunts the fruit. The White Iholena had fruit only about 2". Basically they didn't grow after the first month.

Caloosamusa
04-25-2010, 02:16 PM
Thanks Tony!

My White Iholena has not flowered yet, that is good information to keep in mind!

I hope your posts don't condense! :2239:

Looks like they did!

sunfish
04-25-2010, 02:27 PM
Thanks Tony!

My White Iholena has not flowered yet, that is good information to keep in mind!

I hope your posts don't condense! :2239:

The wet winter did in my Iholenas . One flowered and the fruit never grew. The other one just had the beginning of a flag and was taken out by the last strong winds. I need to get one to flower early spring.

sunfish
04-26-2010, 03:18 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=31116&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=31116&ppuser=2868)

Flag leaf is showing

Caloosamusa
04-26-2010, 08:54 PM
Good evening Tony!

That is an excellent example shot of a flag leaf. Keep up the good work!! :2239:

stumpy4700
04-26-2010, 09:36 PM
Come & visit me too Harv...my IC popped a flag Tuesday. :):)
And yes, the leaf before it was smaller than normal.
Congrats Tony...post that flag leaf too!




:pics::pics::pics::pics:

Patty in Wisc
04-27-2010, 12:33 PM
Stumpy, I posted pics in 'Container' forum ..."Need a bigger pot ASAP". It looked like a flag to me, but now I see a new leaf growing out of it & Tony said it is prolly the "shorter leaf before the flag". So, we think the leaf coming out will be flag.

sunfish
07-07-2010, 09:16 PM
1000 Finger p-stem less than 6' getting ready to send up flag.







DWARF NAMWAH
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33846&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33846&ppuser=2868)

sunfish
05-29-2011, 07:44 PM
Looks the Manzano is going to send up a flag. Three years from TC. The newest leaf is half the length of the others.

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nannerfunboi
05-29-2011, 08:16 PM
question?? can you prevent a mature plant from blooming?
my understanding is when plant blooms after mother plant dies?
is that correct?
if so.. i have 2 big ensetes.. 1 glaucum..other is maurelli..
i doubt they will bloom this yr..even with short season i have here..
but..id hate to loose a big plant..
sure appreciate insight on this..
thanks much !!!

sunfish
05-29-2011, 08:40 PM
question?? can you prevent a mature plant from blooming?
my understanding is when plant blooms after mother plant dies?
is that correct?
if so.. i have 2 big ensetes.. 1 glaucum..other is maurelli..
i doubt they will bloom this yr..even with short season i have here..
but..id hate to loose a big plant..
sure appreciate insight on this..
thanks much !!!

Which ever p-stem flowers is the one that will die Only the p-stem dies the corm and pups will survive..I don't believe you can keep a plant from blooming it's going to bloom when it's ready.

Richard
05-29-2011, 09:05 PM
question?? can you prevent a mature plant from blooming?

The life of the plant is the underground corm. The above ground stem has leaves that function as solar panels. It blooms when mature to reproduce. A healthy corm will also send up new stems which will eventually flower. It is an herb, not a perennial plant.

palmtree
05-29-2011, 11:58 PM
Congrats on the soon-to-be bloom!
I hope my bananas make some fruit soon! I think that would really be one of the top happiest moments of my gardening experiences (some others would include the first time I sucessfully overwintered palm trees, the first gardenia that I actually got to make buds and flowers and didn't buy with flowers already growing, the first banana plant I ever bought, the first large palm tree I ever bought, and the first time I ever got a plumeria to bloom).
Enjoy the fruit and keep is updated!

ArchAngeL01
05-30-2011, 01:02 AM
nannerfunboi...........Ensetes aren't 'true' bananas, they're related but aren't the same. When an Ensete blooms the whole plant dies because Ensetes do not pup or send out babies. Flowering Ensetes are rare in cultivation so i wouldn't worry about it anyways.

nannerfunboi
05-30-2011, 09:35 AM
much thanks all..
ive been doing reading on bananas..find it interesting our buds are
actually herbs..
funny..i do hope that my big ensetes dont flower..LOL
at least not until i get few others big..then "if" big ones become mature..if they get there..would love to see a bloom..
again.. im very grateful to u all for your experience and knowledge on
bananas...

sunfish
05-30-2011, 03:49 PM
Here comes the flag

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nannerfunboi
05-30-2011, 04:24 PM
i hope so brad..i really would love to keep the big ensetes for awhile..
especially if i can get them huge!!! hope hope..:goteam:
wow sunfish.. 3yrs from TC ..is that typical for manzano in your
climate?

sunfish
05-30-2011, 05:06 PM
i hope so brad..i really would love to keep the big ensetes for awhile..
especially if i can get them huge!!! hope hope..:goteam:
wow sunfish.. 3yrs from TC ..is that typical for manzano in your
climate?

This plant is in a poor location.Shaded and stays wet . Still for me even in the best spot at least two years from tc

laserlight
05-30-2011, 09:48 PM
question?? can you prevent a mature plant from blooming?
my understanding is when plant blooms after mother plant dies?
is that correct?
if so.. i have 2 big ensetes.. 1 glaucum..other is maurelli..
i doubt they will bloom this yr..even with short season i have here..
but..id hate to loose a big plant..
sure appreciate insight on this..
thanks much !!!

I dont know about glaucum but i do know about maurelli cuz i saw pictures when it made pups. If it looks like it will make a flower you can cut it down just above the ground. then you can use a sharp knife and cut the small core in the middle out and cover it with only enough compost so it wont dry up. a ton of pups will grow out of the stump.
I dont remember where the thread with pictures is but heres 2 links about it.

Ensete - Bananas Wiki (http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Ensete)
Hardy Tropicals UK - View topic - ensete pups (http://www.hardytropicals.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=5599&sid=db0aba958471b7a09ece9d22c0368301&start=15)

that other link is for a guy who did it with his maurelli.

sunfish
05-30-2011, 09:57 PM
http://www.bananas.org/f2/corm-propagation-success-13011-2.html#post161014

sunfish
06-10-2011, 10:48 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=43392&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=43392&ppuser=2868)

sunfish
06-15-2011, 04:39 PM
Flag leaf and bud

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=43581&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=43581&ppuser=2868)

sunfish
06-22-2011, 04:14 PM
Flag leaf and bud

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=43581&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=43581&ppuser=2868)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=43811&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=43811&ppuser=2868)