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novisyatria
02-07-2010, 05:47 PM
last day i make media MA for tc from male flower bananas. and today will start new tc from male flower. its be my first time tc by using male flower. wish me luck. i 'll soon the pic about its process
regards
kamayoi
02-08-2010, 01:16 AM
Wish u Good Luck Pak Novi..
hehe... hope u`ll show us step by step ..like how to identifyin male flower ..
AV1611Corbin777
02-08-2010, 03:08 AM
Very cool, you should change your name to "TC mad man'
Any of these tc's your doing going to find their way over to the states?
novisyatria
02-10-2010, 09:42 AM
today i did tc bananas from male flower and take photo for you all. enjoy it and wish me luck..
step 1. prepare the bananas flower. in this case i have musa velutina (no 1 and 2), new hybrid (3), ensente glucam (4),
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/tc%20male%20flower/IMGP2872.jpg
Step 2 throw out the skin/layer of flower (what term?) until its only about3-4 cm length and soak in bleach 15 % for 10 minute and then rinse with sterile distilled water 5 times
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/tc%20male%20flower/IMGP2873.jpg
step 3. open the each layer and take its male flower. best explant is flower in layer no 8 -16 from tip. flower no 1-7 and more than 16 is not good. its callus not embrionic. so cant to turn be shoot.
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/tc%20male%20flower/IMGP2875.jpg
step 4 put the male flower in media MA. wait 1 month or more until they getting callus. and we can do subculture in same media to get more callus or put in liquid media if do tc cell suspension, or put in shoot induction media.
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/tc%20male%20flower/IMGP2878.jpg
well, i will post pic later if there is good progress. hah.. i apologize my english is limited to explaining this thread. i hope you all understand what i mean. hah.. tc male flower more complicated than normal tc using the corm. must be carefull. its explant is so little
regards
xavierdlc61887
02-10-2010, 07:16 PM
GREAT JOB!!! novi as always you you amaze me, Im glad i am learning from you!
kamayoi
02-11-2010, 02:21 AM
good luck bro...
tq for great post..
novisyatria
02-17-2010, 08:39 PM
well, after 9 days, tc male flower looks good so far and they looks star to growwth.
Banana Gallery - IMGP2883_tc_male_M_velutina (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29773&cat=500&ppuser=6074)
Banana Gallery - IMGP2884_tc_male_flower_m_velutina2 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29772&cat=500&ppuser=6074)
xavierdlc61887
02-17-2010, 08:44 PM
Good job novi!!! i havent done anything :( too much work and no time to TC :(
novisyatria
03-06-2010, 08:40 PM
After 1 month, tc male flower bananas has shows good progress. they forming callus/embrio. bothe ensente and m velutina should remove to new fresh media to get more embrio
Ensente Glaucum. they looks great
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/IMGP2903.jpg
Musa Velutina also shows good response, even also producing a little browning
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/IMGP2904.jpg
I am happy see them all growth
novisyatria
03-31-2010, 09:59 PM
New pic Tc Male flower. they needs subculture soon
Ensente glaucum
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/IMGP2950.jpg
M Velutina
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/IMGP2951.jpg
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/novisyatria/IMGP2952.jpg
regards
griphuz
10-18-2010, 07:39 AM
Hi Novi,
Why do you use male flowerparts to TC? Does this give any other results then from meristematic tissue from a sucker?
And do you use other media/hormones to get this to work? Do you have some literature about it?
When you say "its callus not embrionic. so cant to turn be shoot." I think callus doesn't matter right? Can't you induce shootgrowth first, and then root growth from callus?
Good luck in the process, keep us updated! Thanks!
Kind regards,
Remko.
xavierdlc61887
10-18-2010, 09:57 PM
griphuz, Hello :)
Novi has not been on for a while now due to some personal things going on at the moment, I will notify him about your question :)
xavierdlc61887
10-18-2010, 09:58 PM
Ask Gabe, he will tell you what you want to know :)
Gabe15
10-19-2010, 02:56 AM
It is possible to regenerate plants from the callus tissue, but it is not easy or simple. This technique is generally used to establish embryogenic cell suspensions used for somatic embryogenesis. Each somatic embryo develops from a single cell. This is generally only used when genetic engineering the plants so that the transformed plants (with new genetic material) are sure to have originated from a single cell, rather than having chimeras with some transformed and some non-transformed tissue, making it not only unstable, but hard to tell if something has been transformed or not. In Novi's case, I believe it is just for fun to see how far he could get using male flowers. To propagate plants via somatic embryogenesis is more trouble than it is worth for standard micropropagation, so it must just be for the fun of it.
griphuz
10-19-2010, 06:29 AM
Thanks again Gabe,
I'll try to get some literature of this matter, and read into it a little bit more.
Kind regards,
Remko.
novisyatria
03-14-2011, 10:44 PM
yes, i do tc male flower for fun and only for ornamental bananas. so its okey if there is mutation or chemeras
sddarkman619
09-06-2012, 07:29 PM
You said use only the flowers from layers 8-16, how do you know which are those layers? Slice it down the middle and count?
thanks
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