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Taylor
12-30-2009, 06:39 PM
Fool us twice, shame on us.

I've noticed a strange influx of new members with similar writing styles and/or avatars who post once (or a few times) and then never post again. Most of them are continuing to sign in though, but haven't added any additional profile information. I'm about to make some sweeping assumptions, but after the Eric ordeal*, I think it's in our best interest. If I am wrong about any of them, I'll gladly apologize; however, when asked what they need to know, the question is avoided and no pictures are made available. Instead, they just get dozens of "Welcomes" and "Enjoy it here" comments from real people that the new members sadly never respond to. For the most part, these people have joined since the banning of Eric/Seaner.

*See threads:
http://www.bananas.org/f11/we-leaving-10602.html
http://www.bananas.org/f11/erics-false-claims-10608.html

Here is what I am talking about...

Note: "I am..." "I have..." "I live in..." "I joined..." and spaces between thoughts in the first few.
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-17.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-18.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-19.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-20.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-22.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-23.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-24.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-27.png

Sorry about all the screenshots. I've never seen this many illegitimate new members. Has anyone else noticed this trend?

LilRaverBoi
12-30-2009, 06:52 PM
Okay...I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of these new members. There are ALWAYS a bunch of people who join forum sites, do an intro and never post after that (or don't even do an intro). This is nothing new. Honestly, I think you're just being paranoid. And for the record, since when are you in charge of policing this site?

And as for the 'Eric ordeal' as you called it....whether or not Eric are Sean are one in the same (and I still don't believe they are after talking with both of them in detail) one thing is for sure....you successfully hurt at least one person's feelings which is unacceptable. In the future, I think you should spend more time working on being accepting/kind to others being helpful rather than scrutinizing every person that joins this site. This is not YOUR forum, Taylor....it is all of ours to share. Let the mods and admin do their jobs.

I think it's time for you to move on from that situation and stop dwelling on the past.

I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful when I say any of these things...just honest.

Thanks.

PS...Elvis is a very good friend of mine and is indeed a real person from NC.

elvisthe2nd
12-30-2009, 07:15 PM
lmao, congratulations Taylor, you have figured out this conspiracy against you. Heres your award. You should feel real priviledged, because i only give this out to a select few douche nozzles.

http://lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/picard-no-facepalm.jpg

momoese
12-30-2009, 07:56 PM
Taylor, aash09 is a friend of mine, and a wife of someone you know here. You might want to do a little editing.

Taylor
12-30-2009, 08:12 PM
Mitchel,
I won't edit the original post unless she really wants me to. I try to keep my original posts intact.

Instead, I'm sorry Annie. You just never know who is who on the internet, I hope it's understandable. Thanks for the heads up, Mitchel. Who knows if there are any more personae that can't deciphered without Mod/Admin capabilities.

By the way, why did you sign off of AIM, Bryan, and now Eric is signing on with your same icon? He has never signed on before, and you have always been the one online. For everyone else reading this, I have them on my AIM contact list from a long time ago, never talked though.

aash09
12-30-2009, 09:46 PM
Taylor, aash09 is a friend of mine, and a wife of someone you know here. You might want to do a little editing.

Thanks Mitchel

sirmoebly
12-30-2009, 10:12 PM
Food for thought, everyone else thinks it's a joke but I come here to learn something..... then when you can help someone they crap all over you... Just at the last time I posted on one of seaner or what ever is name was before he was banned.......(one of his last threads)
The only thing is he did pm me & said he was sorry...... for what its worth I think it was not a good thing for this site.....

Richard
12-30-2009, 10:46 PM
Just to put this a little more in perspective: Taylor was once banned for having multiple accounts and a bit of misbehavior, and then after asking Jarred for a second chance the forum members at the time agreed to let by-gones be by-gones.

I feel that if you suspect there is some bad activity -- you should report it to the moderators and allow them to discuss it, with Jarred if they feel it is necessary. If nothing is done about your concern then leave it alone. In the bigger scheme of things it is apparently something you should not be concerned about.

LilRaverBoi
12-30-2009, 11:18 PM
By the way, why did you sign off of AIM, Bryan, and now Eric is signing on with your same icon? He has never signed on before, and you have always been the one online. For everyone else reading this, I have them on my AIM contact list from a long time ago, never talked though.

LOL...I didn't realize I had to tell big brother I was signing off AIM. Actually the network here at the university went down for an hour or two. And Eric signed on before the internet died cause I was talking to him when it went down. I find it truly amusing how much creepy stalking you do to others. I think you may have some trust issues....but I'm no psychologist.
:lurk: :woohoonaner: :lurk:

PS...Taylor, I hope you can realize at this point how ridiculous and out of hand this is getting. It's time to move on, bro. I mean, you're accusing innocent people (and even ME!?) of being Eric. It's getting to the point of delusional, man.

Patty in Wisc
12-30-2009, 11:55 PM
Elvis & Aash, Taylor did say he would apologize if he was wrong and I do see his point! He had his intuitions & was correct. And, I do not think he is paranoid AT ALL. I read those 2 links/threads Taylor posted and WOW. Isn't it obvious that Eric is Sean & that he's nuts??!! They write the same...talk the same. Why was Sean always speaking for Eric? "Eric says... Eric is..." I missed out on both those threads till now...I was gone that wkend. Think about this. Eric signed up here in May, all of a sudden Seaner signs up in November (Seaner's location was Denver). Where was he all this time before? I don't think Eric has any friends, except his 'puter. He was posting here all hours of the day (Sean said they had LOTS of friends).
There is a way that Jarred can look up the address of people posting here. On the citrus forum, a guy was banned & tried to join using a diff screen name but the administrator caught it. I don't know how that works, but that guy could not sign on at all - with any screen name.
I see exactlly what Taylor is talking about... most of those new ppl signed on in Dec prolly since Eric was banned.
After reading the 2 threads, Eric is really scary! I feel sorry for him -- that he is STARVING for attention. I got several pm's from Sean on about the 11th &14th(?) They were very strange & I then ALSO suspected he was Eric.
Seaner also said that Eric is mentally challenged & "their" Dad wrote for him. WRONG! I got a pm from the dad saying he does not interfere with Eric being on the forum. His writing is completely diff from Eric. I'll go find those pm's if anyone wants.

Patty in Wisc
12-31-2009, 12:02 AM
[QUOTE=Richard;116048]Just to put this a little more in perspective: Taylor was once banned for having multiple accounts and a bit of misbehavior, and then after asking Jarred for a second chance the forum members at the time agreed to let by-gones be by-gones.
/QUOTE]

That was low Richard, but then, that's how you are. I've seen you pick fights w/ several ppl here where I thought you woulda been banned. You are not one to point a finger!!
That was REAL low.

MediaHound
12-31-2009, 12:23 AM
Taylor means well, and unfortunately, innocent people get dragged into it all. Chances are most of those posts if not all are legitimate new members. Let's welcome new members properly and not take them to kangaroo court.

Keep in mind that people who do come here to cause problems and play games with alter aliases and having conversations with themselves, manipulation games, etc., will consume your time - and when they do, they win. That's the only way they win is by consuming your time and efforts. So to minimize the impact, lets deal with problems as they arise and not magnify or multiply those things any more than necessary.

sirmoebly
12-31-2009, 12:50 AM
?Richard? , when some one rips on you how would you take it? proably not good. Also if someone rips on you, how is that not your problem? I did not have to go to the higher ups because they banned him...... proably on the thread he treated me.... Sad thing is I have no Idea what the past everyone is talking about or care to waste my time on looking up..... richard before I read alot of your post & thought of you very respectfull & helpfull, now I don't know.... & richard you was one of the higher ups in my list.........oh did I not forget it was my birthday thank you ..................

ron_mcb
12-31-2009, 01:07 AM
Keep in mind that people who do come here to cause problems and play games with alter aliases and having conversations with themselves, manipulation games, etc., will consume your time - and when they do, they win. That's the only way they win is by consuming your time and efforts. So to minimize the impact, lets deal with problems as they arise and not magnify or multiply those things any more than necessary.

IM NOT MAKING FUN OF ANYONE BUT I HAVE SUSPECTED THAT A FEW PEOPLE ON THIS SITE AND OTHER SITES MAY HAVE ALTER ALIASES.. THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE WHO MAY EVEN HAVE PETER PAN SYNDROME..IT DOES NOT REALLY BOTHER ME AS LONG AS THEY DON'T TRY ANYTHING WEIRD OUTSIDE OF THE SITE.. I JUST TRY TO BE REALLY CAREFUL WHEN IM TALKING TO AN "OFF" PERSON OR ANY OF THEIR DISSOCIATIVE PERSONALITIES. I TRY NOT MAKE A REAL BIG DEAL OF IT..BELIEVE ME I HAVE SEEN SOME THINGS YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE..THE MORE YOU THINK ABOUT IT THE CLOSER YOU'LL GET TO A STRAIT JACKET YOURSELF.

had to clarify this message..this was not an angry message.i was not taking anyones side.. if no one is causing immediate harm to you.. let em have their fun. i try not to call anyone on anything i dont agree with anymore. there is a guy on this site who acts like a toddler. he sent a message to me telling me my plants suck..for no reason unprovoked. are there any posts firing back at him??? dont worry so hard.just let things go.. its not healthy.

LilRaverBoi
12-31-2009, 01:34 AM
unfortunately, innocent people get dragged into it all. Chances are most of those posts if not all are legitimate new members. Let's welcome new members properly and not take them to kangaroo court.
Totally agreed....couldn't agree more! New people are new to this site and should be welcomed with praise and respect!

lets deal with problems as they arise and not magnify or multiply those things any more than necessary.
Again...agreed! *cough*Taylor*cough*

stumpy4700
12-31-2009, 01:53 AM
:lurk::lurk::lurk:

lorax
12-31-2009, 10:48 AM
Well, this has gone past Facepalm, passed right through retarded, and it's quickly entering funnyville...

I put spaces between my thoughts too! Oh no! I must be Eric!

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh196/HabloPorArboles/Bananas/image014.jpg

coast crab
12-31-2009, 11:10 AM
Keep in mind that people who do come here to cause problems and play games with alter aliases and having conversations with themselves, manipulation games, etc., will consume your time - and when they do, they win.


Really? Wow. I must have one of the most boring, normal lives around. I mean what kind of sicko plays these sorts of games? Doing something like this would have NEVER occurred to me, and I'd like to think that most people involved with this org feel the same way. I just barely have enough time to be one person here, I can't imagine being 2 or 3. For me, being here is a privilege and I'm grateful for the contacts I've made and the information that has so willingly been shared by others.

So, to the game players, do the rest of us a favor: Turn off the damn computer, get your fat ass up and go outside and breathe some fresh air. Take a walk. Pet a dog. Plant something, ANYTHING. Eat a banana. Treat the helpful, generous people here with the same respect you think you deserve and quit wasting valuable time. Life is short, and you're wasting it.

Russell

momoese
12-31-2009, 11:11 AM
What strikes me as being funny is that whoever eric and seaner are, he/they are probably still here among us just as Taylor has suggested. Anyone can use a proxy server to have mults if they want to talk to themselves or create havoc, but as Jarred suggested, let the mods do their jobs. I'm sure if someone gets out of line they will deal with them as needed.

cherokee_greg
12-31-2009, 11:23 AM
Ron
(Quote}

there is a guy on this site who acts like a toddler. he sent a message to me telling me my plants suck..for no reason unprovoked. are there any posts firing back at him??? dont worry so hard.just let things go.. its not healthy.[/QUOTE]

Hey I had to check out your plants that suck LOL I could not find them in your photo gallery I think they are very nice Sorry To get off the subject but I had to have a good laugh at this one wow what people will say that person must be very jelous over your garden because I think its very nice good work there

Patty in Wisc
12-31-2009, 01:18 PM
Lee, that was uncalled for. The accusations that Eric/Sean made against Taylor were uncalled for too. If this thread bothers you, don't read it!

BananaLee
12-31-2009, 01:19 PM
Lee, that was uncalled for. The accusations that Eric/Sean made against Taylor were uncalled for too. If this thread bothers you, don't read it!
Sorry...just had to get that out :(

mbfirey
12-31-2009, 01:23 PM
Can't a moderator check IP addresses and see if people are or aren't the same?

Patty in Wisc
12-31-2009, 01:33 PM
Yeah mb, I mentioned that before & I'm wondering same thing. There is a way to do it & ban anyone trying to join from THAT puter.

mbfirey
12-31-2009, 01:35 PM
It seems like that would be a simple way to do away with these "drama" threads. Seems like a lot of pendejadas if you ask me.

Bob
12-31-2009, 01:44 PM
Can't we all just get along?.........

BananaLee
12-31-2009, 01:50 PM
Can't we all just get along?.........
That's right! This is bananas.org where we talk about bananas, let's keep it that way. It's New Years eve, let's have some fun!!! :goteam::woohoonaner::bananarow::2182:

mbfirey
12-31-2009, 02:14 PM
All could be quickly resolved be a moderator and IP addresses- then double accounts (if there are any) could be discovered and banned- and Taylor vindicated.


Or the people in question would be proven "real" and then he should be more careful about accusations in the future.


Moderator??? Are you Listening?????

coast crab
12-31-2009, 03:45 PM
People can we all just continue on PLEASE!?!?! Eric was my best friend here and it's not much fun without him. He taught me a lot of stuff too so I'm am really bummed but it's time to pass on.

Good Lord, Lee! Take a deep breath and get control of yourself. As near as I can figure Taylor didn't KILL your friend!

If Eric and/or Seaner is so wonderful I'm sure y'all will be able to continue your friendship. But I'd be careful, there has to be a reason the Mods banned him/them - and I think you are being played. This is starting to sound like a bad "after-school special".

Russell

aash09
12-31-2009, 03:49 PM
No hard feelings. Happy New Year everyone!

BananaLee
12-31-2009, 04:26 PM
Good Lord, Lee! Take a deep breath and get control of yourself. As near as I can figure Taylor didn't KILL your friend!


Like I said I will pass on! I'm just a kid, I need a little slack. Yes I did over react but don't bring it up again please. IT'S NEW YEARS EVE, LET'S HAVE SOME FUN!!!!!!!!!...please...:woohoonaner::goteam::birthdaynana::wavi ng:

coast crab
12-31-2009, 04:49 PM
Lee,

I'm sorry, I didn't mean that as an attack. But like you said, you're "just a kid", and I hope you'll choose friends on the internet carefully.

And Happy New Year to you too!
Russell

BananaLee
12-31-2009, 04:55 PM
No hard feelings! Yea, I usually use the internet to look up plants. This is the only thing on the internet that I chat on. You can tell I'm an amateur! :) I'm better talking with people in front of me, I make them laugh their heads off and I keep my mouth shut real good! :) Happy New Year!!!!:woohoonaner::goteam::bananarow:

Scuba_Dave
12-31-2009, 05:19 PM
Can't a moderator check IP addresses and see if people are or aren't the same?

Very easy to use a Proxy server & have a "fake" IP address
Spammers do it all the time
I'm a MOD on another site & we have had several people point out "trolls" & the trolls are banned

One spammer yesterday signed up from "CA, USA"
I replied on the thread (wiped out his spam 1st) & asked him when CA had become part of China
Had another one post location as "SouthEast" - meaning USA
He made a few posts & I inquired which part of the Phillipines he was from

But if you really want to you use a proxy server & no-one will know where you are really from
I have my PC, a laptop & 2 other PC's
I could have all 4 running with different IP's & logged in as different people

I have no idea what went on with Sean/whatever & do not care
Most sites I have PM's turned off
One site one user became extremely upset when I made his hostile PM to me public on no less then 3 forums

Never post anything on any web-site that you do not want made public
Backups, screen prints etc are forever stored on a PC
And NEVER send anything via E-mail or a PM that you do not want made public or forwarded to other people

And don't take life too seriously
I need a banana daquiri :bananas_b

or a SludMide

Taylor
12-31-2009, 10:33 PM
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/Screenshots/screen-capture-36.png
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/New%20members/screen-capture-24.png

Go ahead... tear me apart all you want, just try to prove me wrong. Really, there's no reason to. I'm not trying to start drama. I'm trying to bring all of this to light and finally get this sickness expunged from our system.

Moderators?!

Abnshrek
01-01-2010, 02:22 AM
You can smell the drama.. Just don't sweat the small stuff :^)

island cassie
01-01-2010, 12:58 PM
YAWN!!!!!! Catch you later!

mbfirey
01-01-2010, 03:52 PM
Yeah I know people could use different computers to appear as different people- but if there is a multitude of fake users they wouldn't all be tech savvy enough to get around the IP verification. What would be the motivation on a forum like this to go to all that trouble just to fool a few plant enthusists?
I'm just wondering if the IP's have been checked....

LilRaverBoi
01-01-2010, 04:23 PM
Taylor....please....PLEASE move on. All you're doing is causing more turmoil here and dwelling on the past. Accusing innocent members here of being fakes is only going to drive people away from the site, hurt their feelings and make people feel uncomfortable here. Once again....let the MODS do their job (last time I checked, you weren't one).

I talk to Eric regularly, and he is sorry about everything that happened but has moved on and has NO DESIRE to start a new account here.

Moreover, your criteria for accusing these people is VERY lax....phrases like 'I have,' 'I live in,' 'I am,' and 'I joined' are just simple, basic statements telling about a person....something nearly EVERY intro thread has. The spaces between thoughts are just people hitting enter twice to separate their thoughts...again, very common.

Your reasoning here just simply is not sound. And as I said before, you're taking this WAY too far (for the record, how does this affect you in the LEAST anyway). You're being paranoid and delusional here. Let it go....move on with your life....help some people on the site (instead of accusing them of being Eric)....stop policing the site and let the mods do their jobs.

Thanks.

PS...even permabans and IP bans can be gotten around in ways. There will NEVER be a way to ensure that Eric isn't on here, so getting all worked up about it and trying to track down every person that might be him is just superfluous. If a problem arises, the mods will take care of it...this is NOT your problem to worry about. At this point, you are effectively creating a problem where there is none.

Taylor
01-01-2010, 04:46 PM
Bryan, can't you just back off ?

Your commentary on everything I do and say is unnecessary and unbecoming. You can stop telling me to move on with your flamboyant capitalization (intended for drama) because I've stopped listening. In no way am I being paranoid and delusional, you are just misinterpreting the situation like you misinterpret a lot of things. Look at the evidence. I never even said it had to be Eric... all I said was that those introductions are freakishly similar. Now, we're all just waiting for the Moderators to check the IP addresses.

Scuba_Dave
01-01-2010, 05:00 PM
Yeah I know people could use different computers to appear as different people-

You don't need different computers
With some simple software available on the web you can change your IP address anytime you want
And it's pretty much documented how to do it so that anyone can set one up

The idea is to protect your identity while surfing the net

There really isn't any reason to care who is on here
If someone is on here & causes a problem I imagine a Mod will step in
And accusing people is really the wrong way to go

Put it in a PM & send it to a Mod
But at this point I'm sure they may have better things to do

If something like this was reported on the site I moderate 2 things would happen
#1 THIS thread would be moved to the trash can
#2 Poster would receive a PM to knock it off unless they have PROOF

Really...its a banana site.....not National Security

LilRaverBoi
01-01-2010, 05:04 PM
Well, think what you will.

Next time, please just report the threads and send a PM to a mod and let THEM deal with it rather than starting your own thread accusing these individuals (of whatever) in the public forums. You are the one causing unnecessary drama.

Okay...well I'm done here...said all I really need to say.

djmb74
01-01-2010, 06:03 PM
Well I for one think this is an awesome site and drama happens no matter where you are. People do stupid things to get attention or to make themselves feel better about themselves its a fact of life on the internet or in person. You just get over it and move on...

Weird stuff like this happens on every forum no matter what its about!


How come no one said anything about Bryan knowing Elvis and the he is alive and living in North Carolina? You guys miss that one....?

:eek:

Patty in Wisc
01-01-2010, 07:59 PM
Yeah, I saw that. I think it was Bryan that mentioned he knew Elvis and Mitchel said he knew who Aash was, but Taylor also said if he's wrong, he'd apologize.

Taylor
01-01-2010, 08:02 PM
And I did just that, apologized to Annie (aash09)... but after he called me a 'douche nozzle', I have yet to apologize to Elvis.

djmb74
01-01-2010, 08:52 PM
hmm...

sorry guess you guys missed that I was trying to be funny...

ya Know Elvis "The King" alive in North Carolina...lol

sirmoebly
01-01-2010, 09:08 PM
Bryan, maybe you should drop it. The friend your talking about is a idoit, & probably got banned off of the last thead on how he treated me.... All I did was try to help with a plant problem....... & guess what, I got ....(crapped on)
nice friend to have... & stick up for.... I would of reported him but he already got banned........ Words of wisdom, treat people how you like to be treated.......( a little respect goes along way )

momoese
01-01-2010, 10:02 PM
hmm...

sorry guess you guys missed that I was trying to be funny...

ya Know Elvis "The King" alive in North Carolina...lol

Oh..I got it, and almost made an attempt at a humoris post, but decided not to fan the flames any further.

On a side note, I like the drama, it makes for good entertainment. Go for it guys! :ha:

Taylor
01-01-2010, 10:13 PM
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/screen-capture-37.png

Enough said.

xavierdlc61887
01-01-2010, 10:30 PM
It seems like that would be a simple way to do away with these "drama" threads. Seems like a lot of pendejadas if you ask me.

LOL that word made me laugh!!

Abnshrek
01-01-2010, 10:37 PM
LOL that word made me laugh!!

Me too.. I wonder if it has to do with the second stage of hay...

Taylor
01-01-2010, 10:53 PM
Bananas.org - View Profile: musacolorado (http://www.bananas.org/member.php?u=6746)

This new member just entered the chat claiming to be "Dean" near Denver, Colorado, with 8 foot Musa basjoo around the house with crispy leaf edges. Remember that Seaner changed his location from Midwest City, a suburb of Oklahoma City, to Denver a day or 2 before he was banned. I assume this person isn't Dean W. (http://www.bananas.org/member-dean-w-.html), who after 7+- months of not posting, started to post again a few days after the Eric and Seaner ordeal. He even sent me a PM saying Hello and that he has missed it here! Didn't ever know he was gone...

Anyway, I have the chat saved if the Moderators need it.

Abnshrek
01-01-2010, 11:25 PM
Did you ever think its a conspiracy to mess with your mind, and the wall's of your computer screen are closing in around you? May the spirit of the Banana be with you.. :^)

cherokee_greg
01-02-2010, 01:23 AM
:woohoonaner: OK im really him :waving: LOL now im getting mixed up:03:

Abnshrek
01-02-2010, 05:14 AM
Greg may the Banana Force be with you :^)

Scuba_Dave
01-02-2010, 10:29 AM
No.........I'M HIM !!

See

I seperate my thoughts

cherokee_greg
01-02-2010, 10:56 AM
I want to be him today than its my turn ok :woohoonaner:

MediaHound
01-02-2010, 04:59 PM
Taylor, enough already. Chats are logged anyway, always have been. IP addresses are watched as well, always have been and always will be. This horse is dead. See my previous post on this thread for why its time to move on.

Abnshrek
01-02-2010, 05:00 PM
I want to be him today than its my turn ok :woohoonaner:

Hey can I be "HIM" tomorrow? Monday is fine too...lol :goteam: