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mrbungalow
09-29-2006, 07:51 AM
Does anyone know anything about this species? I have heard rumours of seeds beeing available this winter.
Erlend:02:
Gabe15
09-29-2006, 12:03 PM
Musa maclayi is a native of Northern Queensland, Australia. Its in the section Australimusa and has a few different subspecies and varieties. As far as I know seeds have not been offered publically before, so it would be a new addition to collections for most.
Attached is a picture from the Queensland Department of Primary Industry of Musa maclayi ssp. ailuluai
http://195.220.148.3:8013/MGIS_2/Photos/ITC0934.JPG
mrbungalow
09-30-2006, 03:59 AM
Thanks again Gabe!
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MediaHound
10-01-2006, 07:47 AM
Thats an awesome photo!
tropicalkid
10-03-2006, 05:58 PM
I wish I could get a place where to buy one of those. It looks very rare being a big plant with an upright bunch, unlike the more "common" ornamentals with an upright bunch which are way smaller.
Carlos
Christian
10-22-2007, 04:14 AM
Hi Erlend!
If you are interested in seeds, contact me at my bananaswap mail account. I have some left, and we can talk about it.
Christian
Christian
10-22-2007, 04:24 AM
Gabe,
It's not an Australian species, it is form Papua New Guinea. (Reference: Argent, Notes from the Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh 35 (1): 94 (1976).)
Christian
mrbungalow
10-22-2007, 05:37 AM
Barna gave me what we think is a musa maclayi. It seems to grow a bit slower as a young plant, and the leaves have burned more easily compared to other bananas.
In comparison, a musa thomsoni I also got from Barna has grown atleast 3 times as big as musa maclayi!
Mark Hall
10-22-2007, 09:51 AM
I have some seeds from christian in the prop as we speak. None have germinated as of yet though.
Gabe15
10-22-2007, 01:04 PM
Gabe,
It's not an Australian species, it is form Papua New Guinea. (Reference: Argent, Notes from the Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh 35 (1): 94 (1976).)
Christian
You are right Christian, I must have been reading the wrong description at the time or mixed it up with another species on accident.
bigdog
10-22-2007, 08:55 PM
Well, it is closely related to Musa jackeyi, and that's from Australia. In fact, Musa jackeyi might just be another subspecies of Musa maclayi, from something I read a while back. I think the seeds that Trebrown was offering as 'Papua New Guinea Highlands Banana' might have been Musa maclayi.
Nothing yet from my seeds either. I just want one...is that too much to ask??
:djnana2:
Gabe15
10-22-2007, 09:29 PM
I got one growing back home, I will see how it's doing in December.
Christian
10-23-2007, 02:29 AM
Yes, the Trebrown PNG Highlands seeds are the same maclayi seeds some of you have. I passed some to Trebrown for sale.
Christian
tropicalkid
10-23-2007, 09:46 AM
Does somebody have a M. maclayi or jackeyi plant/seedling/TC actually growing in the U.S.?, (besides Gabe of course)?:)
Thanks,
Carlos(tropicalkid in NC)
Chironex
11-15-2008, 09:51 PM
Does anyone know whether these seeds are available or soon to become available?
Mark Hall
11-16-2008, 04:13 AM
Scot, I got a very small Maclayi seedling from Christian about a month ago, So maybe he is the best person to ask. Maybe PM him, He should be able to help you.
Mine arrived dried out and is only just clinging to life, So I am not holding out for it to survive to be honest.
dablo93
11-21-2008, 02:30 PM
never heard of this musa.
looks beautiful!
needs warm temperatures to grow ? (so not suited for my climate?;))
Rmplmnz
11-29-2008, 10:21 PM
Gabe,
It's not an Australian species, it is form Papua New Guinea. (Reference: Argent, Notes from the Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh 35 (1): 94 (1976).)
Christian
Very cool...a quick Google yielded the following link:
Tracing Antiquity of Banana Cultivation in Papua New Guinea (http://apscience.org.au/projects/PBF_02_3/pbf_02_3.htm)
bigdog
11-30-2008, 01:55 PM
Very cool...a quick Google yielded the following link:
Tracing Antiquity of Banana Cultivation in Papua New Guinea (http://apscience.org.au/projects/PBF_02_3/pbf_02_3.htm)
Cool pics on that site! I didn't even see the pics until I scrolled down to the bottom and was reading the captions for Figure 1, Figure 2, etc. I was wondering where the figures were, lol! Had to scroll to the right a bit to see them. That Musa ingens picture is really neat. Heck, every picture of that species is neat.
I've got a few Musa maclayi supsp. maclayi var. maclayi seedlings in the greenhouse. They are slow, but healthy. Love the upright bunches on them! They get massive too, around 30 feet of pseudostem. I think I would be extremely lucky to ever see mine bloom.
Frank
Tog Tan
11-30-2008, 04:42 PM
Yo Frank,
They will definitely grow better HERE and bloom! Better ship them to me tomorrow, better, NOW...ASAP man!!!:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:
Think you gonna stop talking to me???:drum:
All the best man on the seedlings and please DO keep us posted of their progress.
bigdog
12-01-2008, 09:37 AM
Yo Frank,
They will definitely grow better HERE and bloom! Better ship them to me tomorrow, better, NOW...ASAP man!!!:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:
Think you gonna stop talking to me???:drum:
All the best man on the seedlings and please DO keep us posted of their progress.
Tog, you are a funny guy! :ha: I'll get those all out to you right away.
Thanks. I'll get some pics soon, if I can ever remember to bring my camera to school. They look pretty much like any Musa seedling would now though, so no real point in taking pictures yet. I've got a serious spider mite and aphid problem in there right now that I am trying to get under control! Not to mention the damn fungus gnats...it's always something!
Tog Tan
12-01-2008, 12:56 PM
Yo Frank,
2 questions;
1. How old are the seedlings from germination?
2. Where was your seed source?
Hey, you see, I can be serious too...:waving:
Funny thing about the 'naners here grown in the open, they hardly have any problems. I think it is their natural environment and things go right with little care. We don't even water our plants from day 1 when they are planted into the ground at the nursery. No fert at all and in the end, they give a decent bunch of fruits. SO, the quicker you send me your plants, the BETTER they fare:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:
Gotcha Buddy! My comments are true and my questions are genuine.
Chironex
02-03-2009, 08:19 PM
Just had 2 M. maclayi seedlings germinate. I had 2 other seedlings but they dried out when I was in the hospital and couldn't get to them just after the first of the year.
I was happy to see them pop up this past weekend. I will take some pics later on.
Caloosamusa
02-05-2009, 07:26 AM
Chironex, where was your seed source?
Best wishes,
Chironex
02-05-2009, 12:55 PM
Chironex, where was your seed source?
Best wishes,
One of our members traded them with me. I don't know if they would approve of my giving out of their name. If so, they will PM you.
Tog Tan
03-14-2009, 07:16 AM
Ok, folks make way, I just joined Club Maclayi!
I got a bunch of the Musa maclayi subsp maclayi var erecta sds from dear ol' Christian a week plus ago. Our expert had them in his magic germn media and they came in moist. Being me, I still gave them a 3 day soak in a mildly acidic water and then in they went into the germ box. The 1st one popped after 7 days!
The temp was as usual, daytime 90F+ to low 100F, night time mid to low 80F. Normal moist seed mix was the media.
Nothing to do with me, I guess, they were already waking up when I got them and the tropical condition here just gave them the final wake up call! Why can't all bloody sds be like this! :ha::ha::ha:
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Why can't all bloody sds be like this! :ha::ha::ha:
I was thinking the same.
bigdog
03-14-2009, 11:17 AM
Ok, folks make way, I just joined Club Maclayi!
I got a bunch of the Musa maclayi subsp maclayi var erecta sds from dear ol' Christian a week plus ago.
Hey Tog,
Is this a new bunch of seeds that he has? He had said before that the seeds he had were var. maclayi, not var. erecta. He had narrowed it down to that variety because they were on the mainland, where var. erecta is endemic to Bougainville (and possibly the Solomons). (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~drc/musa_maclayi_subsp_maclayi_var_erecta.htm) Thanks,
Frank
Mark Hall
03-14-2009, 01:29 PM
Thats good going tog. Mine are still in soak:bed:
Chironex
03-14-2009, 01:33 PM
I had two seedlings that croaked. But the good news is that 2 of the other 4 seeds germinated. So I have 2 of them growing now. They need to be transplanted soon.
Tog Tan
03-14-2009, 02:10 PM
I had two seedlings that croaked. But the good news is that 2 of the other 4 seeds germinated. So I have 2 of them growing now. They need to be transplanted soon.
Scot, you are ahead, but I will race you and see whose will flower first, k..? :ha:
Thats good going tog. Mine are still in soak:bed:
Mate, maybe you should try some slightly acidic water like I did recently with the new batch of different sds I was germinating. Results have been very good.
Chironex
03-14-2009, 02:14 PM
Yeah right, like I have a chance here? Yours will put out a new leaf every day or two. Mine may take a week or more.
:ha::0517:
Christian
03-17-2009, 04:57 AM
Frank: Yours are var. maclayi
Tog: Yours are var. erecta
I have both varieties, but did not receive them at the same time. I sent the freshest seeds I had at the time in the hope you would get the best results. (In your two cases it seemed to have worked! Yuppeee!! Congratulations again!)
Christian
Tog Tan
03-17-2009, 07:00 AM
Thanks for clearing it up Christian. I didn't want to say anything on this as I had no idea you have the M-mac-ssp-mac-v-mac. There we go again talking in codes! :ha: Looks like I have to get the other from you too.
Fyi, the new sprout is coming very strongly and so far still 1 only. I guess 7 days is way too soon for the others to wake up. However, the earlier batch I got from you still shows no activity. Maybe I didn't soak them as you said they were already in your germination media.
Mark Hall
03-17-2009, 07:09 AM
Christian, What ones were mine please?
Tog Tan
03-17-2009, 07:13 AM
Christian, What ones were mine please?
Knowing that guy, they are probably Musa maclayi subsp maclayi var macchristiani......:ha:
Christian
03-17-2009, 09:56 AM
var macchristiani ... Yeah, I might have that one. ;-)
Mark: Yours were var maclayi (in both cases) - same batch as Frank's. var maclayi is more cold tolerant then var erecta. Definitely more suitable for our climate here.
Christian
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