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Taylor
12-13-2009, 01:55 PM
It has come to my attention that Eric has been posting false claims in his thread http://www.bananas.org/f11/we-leaving-10602.html last night and this morning. I don't understand why I have been attacked in such a manner by this self-proclaimed mentally ill person who I thought was a friend. I wasn't even the original person to claim that Seaner (http://www.bananas.org/member-seaner.html) and Eric (http://www.bananas.org/member-eric.html) were the same person, who has also gone under the persona of Michael_James, James, Michael, and Jim in addition to Eric and now Sean here on the Org. See this thread: http://www.bananas.org/f11/intro-7888.html.

In fact, a member messaged me and said that they thought that Seaner was Eric, and that's when I began to truly suspect something, especially since he (Seaner) openly admitted that their location was the same, their chat font color and picture were the same, and pictures in their galleries have the same wooden background. Once we all started questioning him (Me, Lagniappe, and momoese, (maybe Turtile, too?), he began to fabricate stories that Eric is his twin brother and that Eric and Sean like to pretend to be each other often. I'm not sure how many people have talked to Eric, but of everyone in the chat last night (the regular bunch)... none of us had ever heard of a twin brother. Instead, now he claimed that his brother (which one?) was in the hospital, while Eric has claimed before that his little brother died in a fire, and that he himself was badly burned. After some time, he would randomly interject a derogatory comment about my mother, grandfather, father, and threats upon me. He also claimed that I propositioned 'Eric', pressed for his exact address, and asked him to contact me on AIM, noting further that Dad was there with him and they have contacted the police and the 'proposition' is on record with the police.

Firstly, I never propositioned Eric as I'm not even homosexual, and he claimed to be a 15 year old. We're all just friends here. Secondly, I never pressed him for his address at all. Lastly, I did say he could contact me on AIM (instant messenger) if he wanted because he claimed to have no friends. I was trying to help. I even received a private message from him on 11/19 being very grateful and thankful for my help and another member's help in regards to palm care. I did, however, say that he might have been using the multiple accounts to get plants from multiple people because it is a sad possibility.

It's pretty clear what's going on here, especially in regards to mental illness and accidental slips of "I" instead of "We" in the chat. The deflection of attention off of Eric having multiple accounts and onto false claims of my non-existent 'proposition' is a very weak attempt to cover up the real issue, and hopefully it is now being brought to light. I have most of the chat saved from last night, from 11:35 PM to 2:41 AM. It looks like the part where we questioned him is missing, but maybe someone else saved the part before 11:35 PM. I have the screenshots available upon request for the moderators as I'm not sure if it is against the rules at this point.

Thank you,
Taylor

Here are the direct quotes from his posts:
Taylor says we were one person pretending to be two in order to get more free plants from other members. I checked with my brother and got the following information:

To the Adminstrator:
If Taylor has made an issue of this and his weird claims are accepted, I have no objections to being banned. I can't speak for Eric but I'm sure he will agree with this too.

New info: I just found out that Taylor has been pressuring Eric for our exact address. His strong motivations may be innocent but we don't know that. We follow NetSafe rules and cannot give our address out freely.
Taylor: No. Eric has been told Not to contact you on AIM.

Oh, and do whatever you want with my BananaBucks. I won't need them and Sean doesn't want them.
JUST DON'T GIVE THEM TO TAYLOR.

Taylor. You can click on my username, in blue, anytime you want to stick your nose up my "Find all posts by Eric" thing. This is the latest post you'll ever see. You can also go to members list and find out when I last visited (this morning).
Also, it will be a cold day in you-know-where before you ever get my home address or get your ugly hands on me.

Seaner
12-13-2009, 02:49 PM
TAYLOR, GET A LIFE. ERIC'S LEAVING AN ELECTRONIC FORUM AND FINDING OTHER THINGS TO DO - NOT ROBBING THE U.S. MINT!
Do you know the diff between a Capital Crime and a Birthday Party :ha: :ha:! I doubt it.

1. Eric (mentally challenged) was not in the chat to attack anyone.
2. Eric was Michael James (username). He changed it to Eric. I've only had one. Seaner.
3. Some gallery photos may have the same backdrop. We live together.
4. We look alike. We do (jokingly) pretend to be each other sometimes.
5. I told Cher (CValentine) and some other members, in my 1st chat, that we were twins.
6. Our little brother did die. Eric was burned but not even bad enough for lasting scars.
7. I've seen vipers that were friendlier than you. Eric says the same.
8. Eric offered to send you a Musa Ae Ae this spring. He told me he would. I say, No.
9. Eric said you pressured & intimidated him strongly to try and get our home address.
10. Eric will NOT be contacting you on AIM. He told dad what your name is on AIM.
11. Ride me hard enough, I'll say almost anything. The police were not contacted.
12. We have to consider that pressuring for personal info (home address) could be coming from an internet predator. Read NetKidz safety. We surf by those rules.
13. Yes. Dad did write a lot of Eric's posts for him. Eric is mentally challenged.
14. I've never met you (in person) & never will. How do I know you're not homo. Proof?
15. Have no friends? Are U joking? We have too many friends.
16. You've repeated the "pressure for address" thing. You not only pressured, you intimidated him. He said it was AFTER he refused to give you our address that you asked him to talk to him on AIM.
17. Yes. He was very grateful for the info on palms. He has 2 he bought for $60. A Pindo and a Palmetto seedling.
18. We don't claim to be any age. We're just how old we are. So is everyone else, I hope.
19. You can easily talk to others here and find out how few plants Eric recieved and how many he sent (free). He never sold plants but did a few trades. He even spent over a hundred dollars to buy & send 2 Robert Young bamboo plants cause he couldn't figure out how to dig up bamboo starter plants from his own jungle.
20. I'm a pretty sharp trader. Eric's too emo and just wants to give things away. That's not his fault.
21. You do not have our permission to display the personal chat. If a moderator or the administrator decide to display it, they can.

22.The quotes Taylor used are from the 1st post in this thread:
http://www.bananas.org/f11/we-leaving-10602.html

Seaner
12-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Eric has quit the site permanently. From now on, I am the only member at our house that will ever be a member of Bananas.org.
In short, Drop It.
You can grab your microscope & examine me all you like. If you suspect that I might be robbing the U.S. Mint or selling military info to the Russians, feel free to contact the Administrator or a Moderator or both.

djmb74
12-13-2009, 07:36 PM
You know I don't know the whole situation about what happened but I find it kinda odd that Eric brought up a post about internet predators and in his message he said this happened to him and assured all of us that this did not happen here on this site and that he is so glad to have joined this site!

This is something I really didn't wanna talk about but, after what happened around the end of September, I decided I should.
This is the best site I've ever joined. I never have to worry about being harassed or threatened here and I've made a lot of really great friends. But it doesn't always seem to be that way at other places on the internet.
Sometime around the end of September, I met a guy in a chat thing (not this site) who seemed to be real friendly at first. We were talking about plants and he wanted to meet me. I told him I didn't even know him and couldn't give him my address or phone number. He got real nasty after that and I stopped the chat. I won't repeat some of the things he said but they Definitely didn't have to do with plants, for sure!
It makes me really happy to be at this site cause I know my friends, here, would never give anyone my personal info. Dad says he might use other tricks to try and find out where I live but I'm not scared. Even if he does find out, he'd still have to deal with dad, me, and the police! That guy may be mean, but dad can be even meaner!
I'm glad things like that never happen here :) ! But I was wondering if anyone else has ever had this problem & how they dealt with it.
Thanx for taking the time to listen :).