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Originally Posted by jeffreyp
Joe,
I dont think there are major differences in fruit quality\morphology in dwarf Cavendish, mahoi (except double\triple flowering), regular cavendish, williams and gran naine. As matter of fact, I think fhia would be comfortable saying they are more or less the same in regards to fruit quality. That's why you have the name "Cavendish" in most of those varieties (regular\giant Cavendish, Double (Mahoi) Cavendish, dwarf cavendish, and gran nain is actually a cultivate of Cavendish). What's been presented about CG is that it's a very different tasting banana, has different growth habits, and the fruit morphology is very different.
My compliments on your extensive growing experience  . The avg joe comment is an idiom...obviously not referring to you... I have been very observant of all the bananas I have grown and have yet to see a sport. I would say every day I parouse the groves.. Let me say this.. FHIA wouldn't bother with careful hand pollination and harvesting 1000's upon 1000's of fruits to find a single viable seed out all those fruits that were hand pollinated. And then after that, to go through the hastle of embryo extraction to grow that seed if sporting\natural mutations were common place among banana plants. Hence the reason why experts\plant biologists say that the banana of the supermarket has been genetically frozen in time.
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science...ccdrcrd/3.html
http://www.truthabouttrade.org/article.asp?id=1597
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...o-bananas.html |
JeffP...So lets see... Then so if I understand you... all simular types should be labeled under the same name, even if there are variations? With that ideology there might be a dozen or so types of bananas ... instead of what we know to be more than a thousand.
BTW... California Gold ... didn't spontaneously appear. If you read the history about where I got my first pup... I bought it from someone in Texas whom I believe got it from Mexico. I didn't develop it....If it was a sport... It most likely came from SOB. Not in my yard.
Also... I think one of your posts really helps me to understand what this whole conversation is about. Money!
In another post...You said... "Hey I am happy for you that you can
make that kind of money selling your plants...more power to you."
What kind of money are you talking about? A couple hundred bucks a year at best? Please... Its not enough to buy an estate in Kona....
Even at that ..Ebay/Paypal, shipping materials and the cost of transportation to and from the post office considered. I am lucky to make $20 to $25 a plant.
If you want to start a crusade against high plant prices.... Go after those A.Hole's that sell 4 inch ( 2 oz )TC bananas. Put them in a toilet paper tube ....Ship 1st class for 50 cents ..Charge $10 each plus $10 s/h. They almost always die.
The plants that I sell are are almost always 2 ft tall plus and weigh 2 to 4 lbs each.
Or... is it the way I market them that upsets you? Can you blame me for showing the plants off? Can you blame me for showing fat bunches of ripe fruit grown in an area where NO ONE that I have ever seen fruit bananas?
As I believe you once said... There are Orinocos everywhere in California
( not an exact quote ) Then tell me please.... why is it that in the Modesto- stockton area ( Over 1 million live here ) there many people who have Orinoco plants in their yards.... yet not a single one has fruit on it? Yet everyone in my area that I have sold or gave away CalGolds to have fruited the plant within 2 years!... and do so year after year.
Sorry if this topic seems to anger you.
Joe Real lives in the same climate zone as I and his banana growig experiences are pretty much same as mine. I have never met him before, but he seems to have his stuff together.
Enough said on the subject.
Jeff Earl