Speaking of Joe, have you communicated with him lately? I hope things are going well for Joe. I got a chance to visit him a year and a half ago when I returned to Davis for Picnic Day. It was a lot of fun to see his garden in person and taste some of his citrus, even though it was late in the season for most. Best I could do at the time to reciprocate was to bring him a Corpaci lemon and buy some AZ41. I wish that stuff was still available; I'm hooked.
I think Joe had the most success with Dwarf Brazilian, although didn't he have a CA Gold too? I know by the time I visited he had scaled back a bit on the bananas, because he had more varieties on his cold-hardy list than he had plants growing when I was there, if I remember correctly.
It was posts by you, Joe, Harvey, Patty and others over on the Citrus Growers Forum that got me interested in trying to grow bananas and led me to this forum. You are all to blame for this additional obsession of mine.